Won't be long...

heisable2

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I just hope there's enough time between being transformed into our glorified bodies and being taken into heaven so that we can tell those around us what is happening to us. Many won't listen to rapture talk or scoff at Christian beliefs, but perhaps being transformed in their presence will be enough to change their mind, particularly with a quick explanation to them of what is happening and what will happen.
A blink of an eye leaves no time to do anything else. We will be in heaven...can't go back and save anyone. Pray that what you told your family and friends was enough to give them a jolt before it's too late. Otherwise, they'll be like the pastor.
 

paul289

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A blink of an eye leaves no time to do anything else. We will be in heaven...can't go back and save anyone. Pray that what you told your family and friends was enough to give them a jolt before it's too late. Otherwise, they'll be like the pastor.
All that I can see is that the transformation is in a twinkling of an eye.
Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
What happens between the changing and the rapture is up for speculation, as far as I can tell.
 

Andy C

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I keep remembering that pastor in the Left Behind books who, when he realized the rapture had come and he was left behind, got down on his knees and repented. I hope and pray any of my unsaved loved ones will do the same!
The bible tells us in the below that a number too big to count will be saved in the first part of the tribulation, and IMO, the vast majority of those saved will be shortly after the rapture.

Revelation 7
9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice:

“Salvation belongs to our God,

who sits on the throne,

and to the Lamb.


We also know from the below that those who became believers and did not take the MOB, will be saved during the second half of the tribulation.


Revelation 20
4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
 

JoyJoyJoy

I Shall Not Be Moved
And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands.
This passage stands out to me today, as many times as I have read it.
I always figured that some of those left behind would immediately be killed in accidents....wrecks, power lines could be down, rioting, etc.
Then I thought a good many would call on the Lord very quickly, and would be killed by the Horsemen.
The above scripture says those under the alter were killed by beheading for their testimony and refusal to take the mark.

Are these souls a special subset of those saved during the Trib?? What of those who are killed in the first half? When do they resurrect with new bodies?? Do they get to reign during the MK with Christ??
 

Andy C

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This passage stands out to me today, as many times as I have read it.
I always figured that some of those left behind would immediately be killed in accidents....wrecks, power lines could be down, rioting, etc.
Then I thought a good many would call on the Lord very quickly, and would be killed by the Horsemen.
The above scripture says those under the alter were killed by beheading for their testimony and refusal to take the mark.

Are these souls a special subset of those saved during the Trib?? What of those who are killed in the first half? When do they resurrect with new bodies?? Do they get to reign during the MK with Christ??
The sudden departure of the church will no doubt result in many being killed from falling planes, cars, and a lot of other different scenarios, all within moments of our departure. Sadly, many of those will not get a chance to make the wise decision going forward, but then again, they had their whole adult life prior to the rapture to choose to believe.

I like and agree with Jack on the below that answers your question.

Question: The Old Testament saints were set free from Abraham’s bosom and then went up to paradise when Jesus went to the center of the earth for 3 days.(it must have moved because Paradise is UP after that) However, they will not get their bodies until after the Great Tribulation ends. So the Church saints (and angels) will ride back with Jesus at the 2nd Coming but the O.T. souls have to wait until the battle is over. Right? If yes, do they have to wait to get their spiritual bodies because they are connected to the 70th week by being Jewish?

Answer: We’ve got a little confusion of terms here, so let’s begin by straightening them out. The Hebrew word for the place the spirits of dead people went is Sheol, sometimes translated “the abode of the dead”. Those who died in faith were said to be comforted there by Abraham while they waited for the crucifixion to open Heaven’s gates for them. This is where the name Abraham’s bosom comes from. The Greek name for Sheol is Hades, and Abraham’s bosom was called Paradise by the Greeks.

Jesus told one of the men being crucified with Him they’d be together in Paradise before the day was over (Luke 23:43). After His Resurrection, he took the spirits of the believing dead to heaven to be with Him (Ephes. 4:8). The term resurrection means to regain a physical body, which for Old Testament believers will take place at the end of the Great Tribulation (Daniel 12:1-2). Tribulation martyrs will get their new bodies at the same time (Rev. 20:4)

Only the Church will go in the rapture, and when we do believers who have died during the Church age will receive their new bodies (1 Thes. 4:16). Ours will be transformed from mortal to immortal (1 Cor. 15:51-52). This will take place before the End Times judgments begin (1 Thes. 1:10, 5:9).
https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/the-resurrection-of-believers/
 
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