Will This Be It?

Carl

Well-Known Member
A friend just emailed the following to me. It does paint a rather gloomy picture of where the world economy may be going. Although it may be the final in for a one world government.

International experts foresee collapse of U.S. economy


International experts foresee collapse of U.S. economy
Posted By Hielema, Bert
Posted 9 days ago
And you thought that I had a gloomy outlook on the
economy. Now the bad news pops up everywhere.

Harry Koza in the Globe and Mail quotes Bernard
Connelly, the global strategist at Banque AIG in
London, who claims that the likelihood of a Great
Depression is growing by the day.

Martin Wolf, celebrated columnist of the U.K.-based
Financial Times, cites Dr. Nouriel Roubini of the New
York University's Stern School of Business, who, in 12
steps, outlines how the losses of the American
financial system will grow to more than $1 trillion -
that's one million times $1 million. That amount is
equal to all the assets of all American banks.

Every day now, thousands of people all over the U.S.
and Great Britain are walking away from their homes -
simply mailing their house keys to the banks - as
housing bailout plans fail.

With unemployment growing, the next phase will hit
commercial real estate making the financial
institutions the unwilling owners not only of quickly
depreciating houses, but also of empty strip malls and
even larger shopping centres.

The next domino to fall will be credit card defaults,
and after that... who knows? There are so many exotic
funds out there, with trillions of dollars in paper -
or rather computer-screen money - all carrying
assorted acronyms, and all about to disintegrate into
nothingness. Over the next couple of years, scores of
banks that have thrived on these devices, based on
quickly disappearing equities, will fail.

The most frightening forecast so far comes from the
Global Europe Anticipation Bulletin (GEAB), available
for 200 euros - about $300 - for 16 issues annually.
Its prediction is quite specific.

Where my warnings never spelled out an exact date,
this think tank has it pegged precisely. Here are its
very words:

"The end of the third quarter of 2008 (thus late
September, a mere seven months from now) will be
marked by a new tipping point in the unfolding of the
global systemic crisis.

"At that time indeed, the cumulated impact of the
various sequences of the crisis will reach its maximum
strength and affect decisively the very heart of the
systems concerned, on the front line of which (is) the
United States, epicentre of the current crisis.

"In the United States, this new tipping point will
translate into - get this - a collapse of the real
economy, (the) final socio-economic stage of the
serial bursting of the housing and financial bubbles
and of the pursuance of the U.S. dollar fall. The
collapse of U.S. real economy means the virtual freeze
of the American economic machinery: private and public
bankruptcies in large numbers, companies and public
services closing down."

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The report goes on to say that we are entering a
period for which there is no historic precedent. Any
comparisons with previous situations in our modern
economy are invalid.

We are not experiencing a "remake" of the 1929 crisis
nor a repetition of the 1970s oil crises or 1987 stock
market crisis.

What we will have, instead, is truly a global
momentous threat - a true turning point affecting the
entire planet and questioning the very foundations of
the international system upon which the world was
organized in the last decades.

The report emphasizes that it is, first and foremost,
in the United States where this historic happening is
taking an unprecedented shape (the authors call it
"Very Great U.S. Depression").

It continues to predict that, although this crucial
event is global, it will be the beginning of an
economic 'decoupling' between the U.S. and the rest of
the world. However, non 'decoupled' economies will be
dragged down the U.S. negative spiral.

Concerning stock markets, the GEAB anticipates that
international stocks would plummet by 40 to 80 per
cent depending where in the world they are located,
all affected in the course of the year 2008 by the
collapse of the real economy in the U.S. by the end of
summer.

The European authors of this report - it appears
simultaneously in French, German and English - state
that they simply and without prejudice try to describe
in advance the consequences of the ominous trends at
play in this 21st-century world, and to share these
with their readers, so that they can take the proper
means to protect themselves from the most negative
effects.

So there you have it. Three reports from three
different sources, all well regarded, and all pointing
to a disastrous fall-out from our monetary moves.

This and earlier columns can be seen at hielema.ca.
Comments to [email protected].

Article ID# 918803
 

SisterNChrist

Well-Known Member
But the good news is...is that soon...very soon, we'll be taken outta here, for when Jesus comes to take us home with Him. :prayer :yeah:
 

Adopted Son

Well-Known Member
I am pretty sure Bush does see it as a problem. But he also thinks it's his job to provide a counterbalance to the winds of depression. When it hits, it will be awful. He probably realizes that the economy is of population doing, and governmental manipulation is only mildly influential. The only thing he can do at this point is give false hope.

By the way, there have been rumors, stories, and data over the years to suggest there are clandestine organizations who have championed the idea of eliminating the forces of war, especially economic ones. Those theories require a one-world economy and in order for that to be true, the low GPD per capita nations must rise and the high GDP per capita nations must fall. Well, I personally am experiencing the fall, aren't you?
 

mikalikat

Citizen
These are things we as believers have known and seen coming for a long time, but the rest of the world chooses to live with it's collective head buried in the sand. Nearly everything in the story is in some form of process at this time. We are doing what we can to shore up our lives in preparation of this. Who knows how long after the economies crash that we will have to be here?

Personally, with our own dealing with the mortgage companies during my husband's layoff, they have been anything but willing to work with us. They are using the same strong arm tactics they have used for years and unfortunately, they still make YOU feel like the criminal for being laid off and unable to make your mortgage payments.

If I sound like a conspiracy theorist, so be it, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if the government, the banks, and the credit institutions were all in on something together to take back all the properties they can, destroy the credit industry and make the people totally dependent on the government in order to usher in something like the One World Government. I know I sound like someone that watches for little green men (I don't), but there is so much going on behind the scenes that would make our hair stand on end if we knew the truth.
 

Suzanne

Well-Known Member
These are things we as believers have known and seen coming for a long time, but the rest of the world chooses to live with it's collective head buried in the sand. Nearly everything in the story is in some form of process at this time. We are doing what we can to shore up our lives in preparation of this. Who knows how long after the economies crash that we will have to be here?

Personally, with our own dealing with the mortgage companies during my husband's layoff, they have been anything but willing to work with us. They are using the same strong arm tactics they have used for years and unfortunately, they still make YOU feel like the criminal for being laid off and unable to make your mortgage payments.

If I sound like a conspiracy theorist, so be it, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if the government, the banks, and the credit institutions were all in on something together to take back all the properties they can, destroy the credit industry and make the people totally dependent on the government in order to usher in something like the One World Government. I know I sound like someone that watches for little green men (I don't), but there is so much going on behind the scenes that would make our hair stand on end if we knew the truth.





I don't think that anyone who has been on this forum for awhile would accuse you of believing in anything that's controversial. You're feeling that something is going on behind the scenes, because it is. I know that we're headed for a one-world government, because it's obvious. There were rumors of a North American Union, and many of our leaders ridiculed the whole idea. Last I heard, a highway is being constructed from Mexico to Canada. If the leaders of America decide that we need to go to war with another nation, our president is expected to clear it with the UN before he even talks to congress.

I don't have many answers regarding the one-world government, but I've been researching it. I'm trying to figure out what is real from what is just conspiracy. As complicated as the subject is, the one-world government will probably be firmly established before I understand even a fraction of it. Come quickly, Lord Jesus.
 

Carl

Well-Known Member
A guy that worked where I worked used to bring in a couple of News papers. We read the papers and listened to good talk radio. One day we looked at each other and came to this conclusion. They know what they are doing. No matter how it looks to us they have a plan that is working for them. They are creating the troubles in this world just for their selfish plan.

I was watching the Congressional Budget Hearings on CSPAN yesterday. There are enough of Congress that knows the truth about the economic situation to take action. But they would rather get a vote for the next election and let their children and grandchildren pay the price later than risk losing votes now.

They are still letting politics get in the way. Amazing that the Democrats are now blaming Bush for everything. Yet Bush cannot do much without Congress' approval.

The whole point in this thread was that we could be heading into a world wide depression. One that would make 1929 look like a vacation. I see this as a perfect opportunity for a savior to step up and promise to fix things so people can have some prosperity again. At least food on the table and a roof over their head.
 

WhisperWisdom

Faithfully Yours Lord!
Ya'll are giving Bush the benefit of intelligence...I wouldn't go that far.....:)

I'm starting to see the effects in my own hometown in small ways....for instance, everyone has heard of Lane Bryant, correct? Over the past year, they've pretty much stopped emailing coupons, and have started closing out stores and combining them. When I talked with the salespeople, they said that Lane Bryant was hurting for money. And this is not the only brand name company in this situation.

Gas prices are at an all time high, and it's a joke how on my local news they do these random polls asking the public what their limit is. Frankly, mine got passed a long time ago.....
 

readytogo

Well-Known Member
Gas prices are at an all time high, and it's a joke how on my local news they do these random polls asking the public what their limit is. Frankly, mine got passed a long time ago.....

Mine did too, Honey, mine did too!! It's gone from ridiculous to obscene! :woah:
 

Andrew

Well known member
Gas prices are at an all time high, and it's a joke how on my local news they do these random polls asking the public what their limit is. Frankly, mine got passed a long time ago.....

Gas prices here in the UK are now over $10 per gallon. :twitch
 

Andrew

Well known member
Gas prices are at an all time high, and it's a joke how on my local news they do these random polls asking the public what their limit is. Frankly, mine got passed a long time ago.....

Gas prices here in the UK are now over $10 per gallon and the government want to increase the amount of tax. :twitch
 

bball39

Well-Known Member
The world govt. has planned this for a while now. To destroy the economy so they can get a one world economy. They virtually elect the president behind the scenes. Mark my words around election time gas prices will drop so they can make themselves look good.
 

Jman

New Member
The world govt. has planned this for a while now. To destroy the economy so they can get a one world economy. They virtually elect the president behind the scenes. Mark my words around election time gas prices will drop so they can make themselves look good.

Some one needs to let them know not to waste their breath anymore because the rapture will pretty much take care of the economy.
 

Carl

Well-Known Member
Ya'll are giving Bush the benefit of intelligence...I wouldn't go that far.....:)
God is the one that created government, and it is God that handles the leaders. The Bible says that we should pray for our leaders. The Bible doesn't say a thing about the leaders qualifications.
 

IM2L844

Seeker
He probably realizes that the economy is of population doing, and governmental manipulation is only mildly influential.
I've come to expect your unreasonable and mostly illogical rush to defend George Bush, but, in light of the facts, this is the most idiotic statement I have seen in a while.

CLEARLY, WITHOUT A DOUBT, the largest factors driving this country's economy into the tank has been the Bush administration's policy of repeatedly cutting taxes for those already wealthy beyond what most of us can only dream about while exponentially increasing government borrowing & spending.

George Bush inherited a booming economy and more than 2 trillion combined dollars worth of budget surplus and paid down debt.

With that, instead of investing in new energy research or education or anything worthy, the genius's first major economic initiative was to pursue a massive tax cut for the rich. He gave all those with annual incomes over $1,000,000.00 a tax cut of $18,000 (a brand new car)—more than 30 times larger than the cut received by the average American. His next big idea, even after the economy was clearly going south, was a second tax cut. That one was skewed even more heavily toward the rich people.

The Bush tax cuts which have gone to benifit the highest income one-percent of taxpayers have caused a huge structural deficit to our federal budget. Together these tax cuts, when fully implemented and if made permanent, will mean that in 2012 the average reduction for an American in the bottom 20 percent will be a scant $45, while those with incomes of more than $1 million will see their tax bills reduced by an average of $162,000.

These tax cuts are for people who had already increased their after-tax income by 139 percent from 1979 to 2001 -- more than a $400,000 increase after inflation. The tax code is hideously biased in favor of the rich. The Bush Administration decided that these were the folks who most needed more tax breaks: on capital gains, dividends, and inheritances.

For a small fraction of the trillions of dollars of deficit spending that the tax cuts have created, we could have gotten greater stimulus to the economy from tax cuts aimed at the majority of households, who would be more inclined to spend their money, locally, on goods and services,--and not so concentrated on the "haves and the have-mores" who, by the way, tend to reinvest billions of those tax savings dollars in tax shelters, international corporations, foreign money markets, etc...NOT helping mom & pop startups or creating jobs as advertised.

As a consequence, federal tax revenues are at their lowest point in more than 50 years, as a percentage of our economy.

In case you haven't noticed, the growth in GDP over the past five years has been largely the result of Defense spending and skewed towards profiting rich investors in the oil industry and the massive military industrial complex.

This has all been funded by GOVERNMENT DEBT!

The remainder of the growth in GDP (from consumer spending and residential construction) has also been finance by debt driven by a false sense of confidence--disingenuously perpetuated by George Bush's administration cooking of the books to hide the real cost of this war.
 
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