Why Socialism / Liberalism / Communism is the Future One-World Church

Rocky Rivera

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Consider the Seal Judgments:

1) FIRST SEAL - Behold a white horse. The rider of the horse wears a false crown. He claims to be The Messiah, but in reality he is the Antichrist. Running on a platform of liberalism, he gives the masses what they want -- socialism. It eventually devolves into communism.

2) SECOND SEAL - With the installation of socialism, the remaining pockets of conservative resistance rise up in an attempt to overthrow the shackles of socialism. There is red war every where.

3) THIRD SEAL - Socialism has always been bad for economies, and the third seal judgment means economic disparity. Everyone is affected. A man is willing to work all day long for just a loaf of bread. However, the rich people who manipulate the politicians behind the scenes are unaffected (do not hurt the olive oil and wine - Rev 6:6).

4) FOURTH SEAL - Socialism devolves into communism. The capitalists and anyone considered an enemy of the state are destroyed. The destructive side-effects of the past two seal judgments (consequences of worldwide socialism) along with the mass-government instituted killings all contribute to feed the rider of the pale horse.

5) FIFTH SEAL - Communism hates competitors to the state's demand for worship. Christians are lumped alongside conservatives and declared enemies of the global state. But primarily, because they will not renounce their LORD, many are martyred for their faith in Jesus Christ. But they'll be back!

6) SIXTH SEAL - The murder of all the innocents, in particular God's people, does not escape the LORD's notice. He unleashes a tiny bit of His fury at the Earth, and causes a massive earthquake to rock the planet. The Yellowstone Caldera erupts mightily, causing huge tremors and some great tsunamis.

7) SEVENTH SEAL - Total silence from Heaven for half an hour. During the solemn thirty minutes, even the cherubim surrounding Father's throne fall silent. God commands an angel to fill a censer with fire and cast it to the Earth. When the angel does this, the earth is hit by thunderings, lightnings, and another earthquake!
 
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Endangered

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It will be better PR for the AC to be a president of a political party than to be a dictator. Rocky's conclusion about communism may just be right. However the party will be a sham and in reality it will be a dictatorship with the party for theatrics only. Satan wants complete power and I dont think he will share with others.
If you study economic systems you realize that socialism is considered only an intermediate step to communism. The Libs will never admit this but it is true. Its just that socialism is easier to sell.
The prog/libs desperately want an OWG utopia. Just like John Lennon described in the song "Imagine". They will strive for the OWG utopia and instead they will get the biggest blood bath in human history. And Satan will watch this all happen laughing in his boots.
 

Chris

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I think the whole socialism, liberlaims, and communism dynamic is interesting these are political ideas and things. I don't see them being judgments of God which is what the Seal judgments are. And I'm lost how this has to do with a one world church? I must be missing something as I'm kind of confused with the OP. :idunno
 

Rocky Rivera

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I think the whole socialism, liberlaims, and communism dynamic is interesting these are political ideas and things. I don't see them being judgments of God which is what the Seal judgments are. And I'm lost how this has to do with a one world church? I must be missing something as I'm kind of confused with the OP. :idunno

Consider how the Western cultures have made an idol out of political correctness. Liberalism is their church, envy is their gospel, abortion one of their sacraments, their "god" is the state, atheism their religion. The liberal church has two commandments -- 1) Do what thou wilt, and 2) If it feels good, do it. Think of what they're teaching the next generation, or rather, what they are indoctrinating the next generation. They claim there is a gender-pay gap, and in the same breath say there is no such thing as gender. They preach diversity while repeatedly droning the mantra that we're "all the same". I can understand why the products of this culture would become angry, confused individuals.

How do I see them as judgments of God? The punishment for any sin is built into the sin itself. When a reckless driver breaks the speed limit, zig-zags through traffic, ignores the signposts and then careens over the guardrails on a mountain road, God doesn't suddenly invent gravity to punish the driver -- gravity is already in place. God removing the Restrainer from the world during the Tribulation is a judgment in itself because evil eventually destroys itself. Some systems that man puts in place, because of his sinful nature in a sinful world, will do more harm than others. Socialism is a prime example of this, as it has in the past century and in this century as well (think Venezuela) was the driving force behind mass genocides -- the Nazi Holocaust, the Stalinist regime which murdered more than Hitler, the Khmer Rouge and their killing fields, etc etc. Given socialism's track record in sheer numbers of people killed, don't you think that a global socialist "utopia" would result in government-sanctioned murders on a Biblical scale? The pale rider would have a feast!

It is a known fact that socialism leads to economic ruin. The only ones getting rich are the ones in power. Redistributed wealth means that the one controlling the redistribution keeps most of it for themselves, while the people are fed the scraps (if they're lucky). The future one world church is the unholy trinity of liberalism / socialism / communism. The activity in the first five seal judgments point to things that do happen in a nation that adopts socialism, and in the case of the seal judgments -- on a worldwide scale. Liberalism is their church, envy their gospel, the state their "god", atheism their religion, and abortion one of their sacraments. The great atheistic movement today desires to abolish all systems of faith and worship, especially that of Christianity. But they are fervent in their desire to establish globalism. How will they do that? Through an "all-powerful" totalitarian state, which is the very framework and linchpin of a socialist system.
 
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Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
I was listening to a Jan Markell show the other day. A pretty good argument was given for the whole new age thing to be the foundation of the Tribulation period religion. I don't see how socialism/liberalism/communism work out to being the basis for a religion/one world church.
 

Hidden

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I was listening to a Jan Markell show the other day. A pretty good argument was given for the whole new age thing to be the foundation of the Tribulation period religion. I don't see how socialism/liberalism/communism work out to being the basis for a religion/one world church.

I think all these "new" concepts - marxism/socialism/democratic socialism/liberalism/communism/new age/minimalism/environmentalism/political correctness/being inclusive/essentialism - are the underpinnings of the One World Government and Religion.
 

Rocky Rivera

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I was listening to a Jan Markell show the other day. A pretty good argument was given for the whole new age thing to be the foundation of the Tribulation period religion. I don't see how socialism/liberalism/communism work out to being the basis for a religion/one world church.

What other system in the world do you know where the state becomes a substitute for God?
 

Andy C

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I think the whole socialism, liberlaims, and communism dynamic is interesting these are political ideas and things. I don't see them being judgments of God which is what the Seal judgments are. And I'm lost how this has to do with a one world church? I must be missing something as I'm kind of confused with the OP. :idunno
Concur 100 percent. Politics will have nothing to do with the dark one when he assumes his role. Judgements from God will strike upon all regardless of their political beliefs, socialism or communism. Thank God the Church will be long gone beforehand.
 

depserv

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This is something I wrote about this being done on a national level awhile back, copied and pasted from my word processor. I think it adds some details to what it looks to me like this thread is about:

The liberal cult imposes its doctrines as the basis of law in America, to such an extreme level that it amounts to the imposition of liberalism as an official state religion. For many years now the doctrines of liberalism have been the foundation of most laws coming from the federal government, as well as many state and local governments, and liberal dogma has been programmed into our children in the government schools for decades.

The dogmas liberal doctrines are based in include feminism, homosexuality, transgenderism, wealth redistribution, so-called social justice, social engineering, anti-white racism, multiculturalism, diversity, and civilian disarmament, among others, and devil worship seems to be woven like a thread through them. These dogmas are the basis of most of what government does these days.

Codes against the expressions of thought forbidden by the high seers of liberalism are rigidly enforced in many venues, including all that are under the direct control of government, i.e., public schools, etc., by a set of doctrines commonly referred to by the letters PC, for Political Correctness; this enforcement is both cultural, political, and religious, as such things tend to be. Expressions of thought forbidden by the high seers of liberalism can have severe consequences, including expulsion, termination, and other forms of excommunication.

If this was done with Christian morality it would be strictly verboten: Christian correctness would not be ok, but somehow political correctness is ok. And there can only be one reason for this: liberalism is the official state religion; the law of the land is based in its dogma.

The laws based in liberal dogmas are not based in Constitutional law, and in fact an accurate interpretation of the 10th Amendment shows the imposition of such laws by the federal government to be in violation of that body of law. What they are based in is the liberal belief system, their moral code. This, by definition, is the religion of the liberal. Their dogma is their bible.

Those who seek to force their moral code on us often insist that if there is no higher power in the belief system it’s not a religion. But this is just one more among many of their lies, and it is a lie that can easily be exposed.

Words often have multiple definitions, with which one is the right one based in context and purpose. Consider the number two and number six definitions of religion from Dictionary. com: “2, a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects. 6, something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience.” These are the definitions that matter in regard to the context of religious freedom and the purpose of it, because whether the set of beliefs is based in faith in God or faith in Man, either way, a belief system is the basis of law and is imposed on society by government: one group imposes its moral code on another, using government power.

Since the purpose of codified rights is to limit government power (or at least was at the time the First Amendment was written), the law was written in that context. The founding fathers did not write a law saying that men who base their opinions on a belief in God can not have a voice in making law, but those who do not believe in God can. That clearly was not their purpose; since so many of them were devout Christians, they would not have written a law saying that pagans can make law based in their beliefs but Christians can not.

In fact it is clear that their purpose was only to keep the federal government from instituting an official state religion. State governments could do so if they wanted. But the 14th Amendment changed all that. And since then this issue has become a convoluted mess, that is commonly interpreted as meaning that Christian beliefs, and only Christian beliefs, must not be the basis of anything any government entity does (as in "keep your morality off my body!"). This clearly was not the purpose of either the 1st or the 14th Amendments, and therefore it is clearly a misinterpretation of them.

This should be obvious to any thinking person, but liberals still try to justify the forced implementation of their moral code by pretending that it is not really a religion, so it’s ok for laws to be based in its doctrines, but since Christianity is a religion, it’s not ok for laws to be based in Christian doctrines.

They cling to that deceptive argument dogmatically because it’s very convenient for them: laws can be based in their belief system, but can not be based in the Christian belief system. So they get to make law and impose their belief system on society by way of government coercion, while Christians can not even use our faith to defend ourselves from that imposition, as in the case of the Christian baker sued over and over for refusing to bake a cake for a sodomite corruption of marriage.

They can hang a picture of a feminist icon on a school wall, for example, but not a picture of Jesus, or a symbol of the cross He died on. They can preach the teachings of any liberal icon as though they are gospel, but they can not teach the Gospel of Jesus.

That’s all pretty convenient, for liberals who want to force everyone to live according to their dogmas. The religion of the liberal is the official state religion, because it’s the one that is taught in government schools and it is the basis of most law being passed today. So the liberal cult rules over us, by way of fiat power.

While Christians and patriots were busy living their lives the liberal cult worked itself into powerful positions (I think with demonic help), and now has its high seers set up as the official arbiters of morality, with good and evil defined by liberal dogma. As the ones that define good and evil for the masses they herd the masses, like cattle to the slaughterhouse.

It isn't hard to see this dynamic growing exponentially, and ultimately being imposed on the world. When America falls under the total power of this satanic cult, the world will not be far behind.
 
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Rocky Rivera

Well-Known Member
This is something I wrote about this being done on a national level awhile back, copied and pasted from my word processor. I think it adds some details to what it looks to me like this thread is about:

The liberal cult imposes its doctrines as the basis of law in America, to such an extreme level that it amounts to the imposition of liberalism as an official state religion. For many years now the doctrines of liberalism have been the foundation of most laws coming from the federal government, as well as many state and local governments, and liberal dogma has been programmed into our children in the government schools for decades.

The dogmas liberal doctrines are based in include feminism, homosexuality, transgenderism, wealth redistribution, so-called social justice, social engineering, anti-white racism, multiculturalism, diversity, and civilian disarmament, among others, and devil worship seems to be woven like a thread through them. These dogmas are the basis of most of what government does these days.

Codes against the expressions of thought forbidden by the high seers of liberalism are rigidly enforced in many venues, including all that are under the direct control of government, i.e., public schools, etc., by a set of doctrines commonly referred to by the letters PC, for Political Correctness; this enforcement is both cultural, political, and religious, as such things tend to be. Expressions of thought forbidden by the high seers of liberalism can have severe consequences, including expulsion, termination, and other forms of excommunication.

If this was done with Christian morality it would be strictly verboten: Christian correctness would not be ok, but somehow political correctness is ok. And there can only be one reason for this: liberalism is the official state religion; the law of the land is based in its dogma.

The laws based in liberal dogmas are not based in Constitutional law, and in fact an accurate interpretation of the 10th Amendment shows the imposition of such laws by the federal government to be in violation of that body of law. What they are based in is the liberal belief system, their moral code. This, by definition, is the religion of the liberal.

Those who seek to force their moral code on us often insist that if there is no higher power in the belief system it’s not a religion. But this is just one more among many of their lies, and it is a lie that can easily be exposed.

Words often have multiple definitions, with which one is the right one based in context and purpose. Consider the number two and number six definitions of religion from Dictionary. com: “2, a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects. 6, something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience.” These are the definitions that matter in regard to the context of religious freedom and the purpose of it, because whether the set of beliefs is based in faith in God or faith in Man, either way, a belief system is the basis of law and is imposed on society by government: one group imposes its moral code on another, using government power.

Since the purpose of codified rights is to limit government power (or at least was at the time the First Amendment was written), the law was written in that context. The founding fathers did not write a law saying that men who base their opinions on a belief in God can not have a voice in making law, but those who do not believe in God can. That clearly was not their purpose; since so many of them were devout Christians, they would not have written a law saying that pagans can make law based in their beliefs but Christians can not.

In fact it is clear that their purpose was only to keep the federal government from instituting an official state religion. State governments could do so if they wanted. But the 14th Amendment changed all that. And since then this issue has become a convoluted mess, that is commonly interpreted as meaning that Christian beliefs, and only Christian beliefs, must not be the basis of anything any government entity does (as in "keep your morality off my body!"). This clearly was not the purpose of either the 1st or the 14th Amendments, and therefore it is clearly a misinterpretation of them.

This should be obvious to any thinking person, but liberals still try to justify the forced implementation of their moral code by pretending that it is not really a religion, so it’s ok for laws to be based in its doctrines, but since Christianity is a religion, it’s not ok for laws to be based in Christian doctrines.

They cling to that deceptive argument dogmatically because it’s very convenient for them: laws can be based in their belief system, but can not be based in the Christian belief system. So they get to make law and impose their belief system on society by way of government coercion, while Christians can not.

They can hang a picture of a feminist icon on a school wall, for example, but not a picture of Jesus, or a symbol of the cross He died on. They can preach the teachings of any liberal icon as though they are gospel, but they can not teach the Gospel of Jesus.

That’s all pretty convenient, for liberals who want to force everyone to live according to their dogmas. The religion of the liberal is the official state religion, because it’s the one that is taught in government schools and it is the basis of most law being passed today. And the same concept applies just the same to most of what government does. So the liberal cult rules over us, by way of fiat power.

While Christians and patriots were busy living their lives the liberal cult worked itself into powerful positions ( I think with demonic help), and now has its high seers set up as the official arbiters of morality, with good and evil defined by liberal dogma. As the ones that define good and evil for the masses, they herd the masses, like cattle to the slaughterhouse.

It isn't hard to see this dynamic growing exponentially, and ultimately being imposed on the world.

When America was founded, its laws were based upon Scripture. But laws nowadays aren't even based on common sense! God made us in His image, and secular lawmakers and the culture want to return the favor. The laws nowadays cater to protect and promote every kind of immorality, and outlaw Christians from speaking out against the evil. The state has become their church. Christianity is a relationship with God, while religion is just an ideology, set of man-made rules expecting their followers to obey blindly. Islam will never be accepted by the masses. Therefore, because we believe the time is near, the greatest external and internal foe to Christianity is liberalism, in practice socialism, and in government communism.
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
In those systems, man is the center. In our faith, God is the center.

They're political constructs. The religious side of that would be the new age stuff and all of the false religions that fall in to that or embrace that... including the catholic church and a growing number of other church groups.

Socialism/liberalism/communism may form the basis for the one world govmint, but I don't believe it will be the basis for the one world religion.
 

crossnote

fully dependent upon His grace
They're political constructs. The religious side of that would be the new age stuff and all of the false religions that fall in to that or embrace that... including the catholic church and a growing number of other church groups.

Socialism/liberalism/communism may form the basis for the one world govmint, but I don't believe it will be the basis for the one world religion.
Seeing satan is behind it all, he will use the first to deny worship of the true God to eventually bring about worship of himself. IOW, those three political constructs will be the means of drawing all men to worship himself.

The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false,
(2Th 2:9-11)
 
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