Amethyst
Angie ... †
Why does the Bible say he was in love with her, or "loved her" when he clearly did not?
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Strong's Concordance: Transliteration: 'ahab |
Pronunciation: ä·hav' |
Part of Speech: verb |
Root Word (Etymology): A primitive root |
TWOT Reference: 29 |
Outline of Biblical Usage:
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Yes, I am just asking because God would normally put in the Word what the true feelings were of someone rather than the perceived feelings.
We know that even most unbelievers, though may not be capable "agape" love for their girlfriend, so have enough love for her to not rape her or someone else.
Yes, Amnon had lust for her and apparently rage, I was just curious why God wanted it written that he "fell in love with her." Just curious lol.
This event in the bible infuriates me every time I read it because Tamar lived the rest of her life alone because of it and David never did a thing about it .
I think I am seeing "love" as different meaning. Like actual love, but not necessarily agape. True "love" provokes people to godly jealousy in many cases, but not to do truly immoral things. I would consider that possessiveness or control, I think.I was just trying to say, I don't think being in love with someone necessarily means having their best interests in mind. Isn't being in love just a romantic desire, whereas lust would be ilicit physical desire? I don't think the two would be mutually exclusive. I'd even be willing to wager being in love can cause people to do crazier things than just lusting after someone
I think I am seeing "love" as different meaning. Like actual love, but not necessarily agape. True "love" provokes people to godly jealousy in many cases, but not to do truly immoral things. I would consider that possessiveness or control, I think.
I guess I am too analytical.
Being "in love" with someone is not necessarily a good thing (although I would say that, in our modern framework, "lusting after her" would be more apt). It says in 2 Samuel 13:2 that he was "obsessed with her"--indicating that sin had taken control of his faculties. Obsessions and compulsions of any kind are not of God--but the evil one. We smile benignly and sigh over young lovers--saying, "Isn't that cute--they are so in love." But, we must acknowledge that "stalking" can come out of an obsession like that--especially, if it is not reciprocal. I would heartily agree that he did NOT love her if he could proceed with raping Tamar her in spite of her begging him to not do so.Why does the Bible say he was in love with her, or "loved her" when he clearly did not?
1 Kings 11 says...Being "in love" with someone is not necessarily a good thing (although I would say that, in our modern framework, "lusting after her" would be more apt).
An old pastor that I once knew used to say, "Choose to sin, choose to suffer." David was essentially told that by Nathan the prophet after his horrible sin that began with lusting after Bathsheba. Nathan also prophesied Absalom's rebellion. David should have upheld the Law of Moses and had Amnon executed--but he couldn't very well do that when everyone in the palace probably knew of his sin with Bathsheba and his arranging to have Uriah killed. Then, Absalom decided he would take the law into his own hands. David's sin of lusting after Bathsheba set off a series of sinful events that ended in the disgrace of his daughter (who would never have been likely to marry) and the death of his first born, who was next in line for the throne of Israel, not to mention the tragic and unnecessary death of Absalom.Think of a stalker, the stalker "loves" the stalked...the stalker is obsessed, the stalked rejects said stalker, this angers the stalker and he or she turns violent and crazy..after the stalker gets what he or she wants..the excitement of the chase is gone, the stalker is no longer attracted to the object of their former affection, and to keep from feeling guilty, they turn all the blame and guilt onto their victim, and the self loathing the perp is feeling also is transferred onto his victim..
He was obsessed with lust, not love, she offered to be his wife, she told him, ask our father he will gladly give me to you but please don't do this, he, being full of lust didn't want to wait and violated his own sister...
Absalom really wasn't a bad sort until he saw his father would do nothing to Ammon for raping Tamar..
This is what turned Absolam against David and ultimately led to Absolums death..
A very sad story all over the place...
Apple pie love is not real love. Interestingly, the Koine Greek has four different words that are all translated as "love" in English. There is philaeo for "brotherly love" (which we know that Amnon probably didn't have for her, since he could treat her so cruelly); next, there is storge love which would be "family love" which he probably didn't have either since he was contemptuous of her after he had raped her. Eros "sexual love" is the only kind of "love" he had for her, if you can call it that. The fourth kind of love agape is God's self-sacrificing, compassionate love. That kind of love, a love for God and all of God's creatures, just as He loves us, is the greatest of loves. Sadly, those who belong to this world, never know this type of love.Amnon loved Tamar as Miss Piggy loves an apple pie with Crisco grease. Just as the Bible says the moon gives her light (instead of reflected light from the sun), it uses this same kind of descriptive language to convey the feelings of infatuation that Amnon had for his half-sister. Does Miss Piggy "love" the apple pie? Of course she does, but it's coming from the stomach and not from the heart. Same with Amnon. He loves Tamar, but it's not coming from his heart but something else.