Why Do People Go to Russia, China, and North Korea?

Chris

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Why Do People Go to Russia, China, and North Korea?
By Todd Strandberg

We need to ban all US citizens from going to nations run by Dictators. I would never visit a country where the leadership could willy-nilly decide to prevent me from leaving their domain. By going to a nation like Russia, China, and North Korea, people are providing them with tourist money, and they are lending them legitimacy.

I would not even want to fly over a nation run by a tyrant. Last year the government of Belarus forced a commercial flight to land in the country so they could arrest dissident journalist Raman Protasevich. A Ryanair flight bound for Lithuania was forced to land because Belarus officials reported a bomb threat. When the flight reached the tarmac, officials from the country’s security forces loaded passengers onto airport buses and took the journalist into custody. Pratasevich was captured because he criticized President Alexander Lukashenko.

The reason why we need a travel ban is that this has turned into a game where dictators like to have a constant supply of hostages so they can trade them for criminals that we have on our side. The latest pawn is basketball star Brittney Griner. She was arrested at Moscow’s main airport when it was discovered that she had hash oil in her luggage.

Our standard policy on Griner should be “if can’t do the time, don’t do the crime,” but no, we took the bait, and a “free Brittney” movement has popped up. Now that Griner’s name is constantly in the news, there is no way Moscow is going to let her go free. She is currently on trial and will obviously get the maximum penalty.

You know it’s officially become a media circus when the Rev. Al Sharpton shows up. He is seeking the administration’s help in securing a clergy visit to see Griner in Moscow.

Asked about the Biden administration’s response, Sharpton said, “I certainly think they could have done more. I think there has not been a lot of vocal support. I understand the sensitivities in these negotiations, but I think at some point, after four months, you have to raise the public outrage on this.”

President Biden has now become involved in this matter. Griner wrote to him in recent days, saying she was “terrified I might be here forever.” This mess is being described as having “particular sensitivities” because it involves the failure to obtain the release of a black gay woman.

The Russians have offered to trade Griner for someone we have in custody. Moscow would like to obtain the release of Viktor Bout, an infamous Russian arms dealer nicknamed ‘The Merchant of Death.’ Bout was sentenced to 25 years on terrorism charges in a 2012 trial in New York. I would hope that Washington would find this trade unpalatable, both morally and politically.

It’s nice that the White House in April achieved the release of former marine Trever Reed from Russian custody. He was sentenced to nine years in prison in July 2020 for endangering the “life and health” of Russian police officers. They might as well have put Reed in jail because he looked guilty.

A former Marine is now free, but so is a drug dealer. In order to make the trade, President Biden had to commute the sentence of Konstantin Yaroshenko, a Russian smuggler convicted of conspiring to import cocaine. If Reed was not in Russia, the drug dealer would still be in jail. Now Yaroshenko can go back to smuggling cocaine.

I don’t think we should allow their people in our country. Over the years, China and Russia have stolen vast amounts of our technology. If it wasn’t for spying, Russia would not have developed the atomic bomb until the mid-1950s. China is a master of espionage. It will soon have a bigger economy than us, largely based on the fact that it robbed us blind on all fronts.

I don’t think America should be xenophobic in its relationship with the world. We should at least do better in picking what nations we decide to have as our friends. We poured billions into the Russian economy, and now because of the Ukraine war, we have lost nearly all of our investments. We should let history be our guide, but we will continue to suffer the imprisonment of our citizens and the loss of our money because of simple greed.

“Whoever loves money never has enough; whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with their income. This too is meaningless” – (Ecclesiastes 5:10).

– Todd

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Nemophilist

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It is a good article and I have wondered why Americans go to these countries. I can understand missionaries going.

I hate to see any American arrested on foreign soil. It seems like a recipe for disaster, esp if Rev Al gets involved.
Amen. When I hear of an American citizen being arrested and thrown into prison in a nation well-known for having a dictator as a leader, I always have to wonder what they were thinking to even go there. It's sort of like going into a bear's cage and expecting everything to be ok. Maybe it will, maybe it won't.
 

Footsteps

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An idea such as a travel ban to countries that intend us only harm can only come from Biden’s handlers - whoever they are.
Biden only dreams of rescuing surfers from shark infested waters by wading in with his Cornpop chain. Sharpton is the lifeguard standing on his tower demanding beach goer outrage against sharks. Then Jill shakes Joe’s shoulder and says “Wake up Joe - oatmeal time.”
 

Spartan Sprinter 1

Formerly known as Shaun
An idea such as a travel ban to countries that intend us only harm can only come from Biden’s handlers - whoever they are.
Biden only dreams of rescuing surfers from shark infested waters by wading in with his Cornpop chain. Sharpton is the lifeguard standing on his tower demanding beach goer outrage against sharks. Then Jill shakes Joe’s shoulder and says “Wake up Joe - oatmeal time.”
Brings back memories of the Adam West version of Batman fighting off a barely inflated rubber shark
 

fl2007rn

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I have not been out of the USA since Covid and am not eager to do so in the near future even to friendly countries. However, we (The USA and many other countries) still get a lot of our goods, supplies, medicine and equipment from China. The western world made a huge mistake decades ago to rely on China to get cheap products. Sadly, we still have to do business with China because we are beholden to them for many products. Americans are routinely going to China because of our business dealings with them.
 

RobinB

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Amen. When I hear of an American citizen being arrested and thrown into prison in a nation well-known for having a dictator as a leader, I always have to wonder what they were thinking to even go there. It's sort of like going into a bear's cage and expecting everything to be ok. Maybe it will, maybe it won't.

I would never even go to Italy after the Amanda Knox trials.
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
In the US there are quite a few marriages between US citizens and Chinese nationals. It's understandable that they'd want to travel to China from time to time to visit family. A friend of mine used to travel to Russia for missionary purposes. On his last trip (that I know of) he completed the adoption of a boy and brought the child back with him. I traveled through China back when they were more closed than they are now. I don't feel any need to return and have turned down offers to travel there with my brother and his wife who was a Chinese national when they married.

As for North Korea or Iran, I think a person would have to be a little off in the mind to travel to either of those two countries right now.

I've seen a lot of the world during my life and am content to travel around the USA these days. There is much to see and do in the good ole USA.
 

Andy C

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In the US there are quite a few marriages between US citizens and Chinese nationals. It's understandable that they'd want to travel to China from time to time to visit family. A friend of mine used to travel to Russia for missionary purposes. On his last trip (that I know of) he completed the adoption of a boy and brought the child back with him. I traveled through China back when they were more closed than they are now. I don't feel any need to return and have turned down offers to travel there with my brother and his wife who was a Chinese national when they married.

As for North Korea or Iran, I think a person would have to be a little off in the mind to travel to either of those two countries right now.

I've seen a lot of the world during my life and am content to travel around the USA these days. There is much to see and do in the good ole USA.

Like you, Im content traveling all over the USA, and have no desire to go anywhere outside our borders.


Top WNBA stars like Griner make 2-5 times the amount of money in Russia as they do playing in the USA.

I had numerous friends from the Marines who went all over the world once they retired, and served as a private security contractors. They made at least 3 to 4 times the amount of money they make in retirement. But, its a gamble, and not all made it back alive.

No amount of money to me would have been worth going to certain countries. However, the lucrative financial pull was too strong for many to resist.
 

Andy C

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And the fact there is no double jeopardy protection there and after clearing her they came after her again... just wow.
I dont recall her being cleared. She has been in jail since she was detained at the airport. Did I miss something?
 

DWB

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Like in the USA? The USA govmint is among the bad ones these days. Hopefully that'll change shortly.
The difference is the U.S. treats its own citizens poorly depending on party affiliation. The foreign visitors probably have it better, especially those here illegally. The illegals can get all the freebies us citizens have to pay to receive.

I don't have much sympathy for the WNBA player. She had to have known the rules yet risked bringing drugs into Russia anyway. She's either a moron, or expected some type of special treatment. I bet a little of both.
 

Chris

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Griner danced with the devil for money to be made in Hell (Russia). She got burned.

I agree with Todd. It makes not sense for people to travel to these godless places. And it makes even less sense that we prop them up by supporting their regimes when we outsource and relocate our manufacturing companies to their lands.

I hope it Trump gets back in office, he put limits on how much commerce can be done with the regimes on China who make inferior products, smuggle drugs across our borders, etc. How many Americans have to die from Fentanyl from China before they will do something? :doh :mad
 
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