Where Does an Electric Car’s Electricity Come From?

Chris

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Where Does an Electric Car’s Electricity Come From?
Inconvenient facts.
By John Stossel

Electric cars sales are up 66% this year.

President Joe Biden promotes them, saying things like, “The great American road trip is going to be fully electrified” and, “There’s no turning back.”

To make sure we have no choice in the matter, some left-leaning states have moved to ban gas-powered cars altogether.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom issued an executive order banning them by 2035. Oregon, Massachusetts and New York copied California. Washington state’s politicians said they’d make it happen even faster, by 2030.

Thirty countries also say they’ll phase out gas-powered cars.

But this is just dumb. It will not happen. It’s magical thinking.

In my new video, I point out some “inconvenient” facts about electric cars, simple truths that politicians and green activists just don’t seem to understand.

“Electric cars are amazing,” says physicist Mark Mills of the Manhattan Institute. “But they won’t change the future in any significant way (as far as) oil use or carbon dioxide emissions.”

Inconvenient fact 1: Selling more electric cars won’t reduce oil use very much.

“The world has 15, 18 million electric vehicles now,” says Mills. “If we (somehow) get to 500 million, that would reduce world oil consumption by about 10%. That’s not nothing, but it doesn’t end the use of oil.”

Most of the world’s oil is used by things like “airplanes, buses, big trucks and the mining equipment that gets the copper to build the electric cars.”

Even if all vehicles somehow did switch to electricity, there’s another problem: Electricity isn’t very green.

I laugh talking to friends who are all excited about their electric car, assuming it doesn’t pollute. They go silent when I ask, “Where does your car’s electricity come from?”

They don’t know. They haven’t even thought about it.

Inconvenient fact 2: Although driving an electric car puts little additional carbon into the air, producing the electricity to charge its battery adds plenty. Most of America’s electricity is produced by burning natural gas and coal. Just 12% comes from wind or solar power.

Auto companies don’t advertise that. “Electric vehicles in general are better and more sustainable for the environment,” says Ford’s Linda Zhang in a BBC interview.

“She’s a Ford engineer,” I say to Mills. “She’s not ignorant.”

“She’s not stupid,” he replies. “But ignorance speaks to what you know. You have to mine, somewhere on earth, 500,000 pounds of minerals and rock to make one battery.”

American regulations make mining difficult, so most of it is done elsewhere, polluting those countries. Some mining is done by children. Some is done in places that use slave labor.

Even if those horrors didn’t exist, mining itself adds lots of carbon to the air.

“If you’re worried about carbon dioxide,” says Mills, “the electric vehicle has emitted 10 to 20 tons of carbon dioxide (from the mining, manufacturing and shipping) before it even gets to your driveway.”

“Volkswagen published an honest study (in which they) point out that the first 60,000 miles or so you’re driving an electric vehicle, that electric vehicle will have emitted more carbon dioxide than if you just drove a conventional vehicle.”

You would have to drive an electric car “100,000 miles” to reduce emissions by just “20 or 30%, which is not nothing, but it’s not zero.”

No, it’s not.

If you live in New Zealand, where there’s lots of hydro and geothermal power, electric cars pollute less. But in America, your “zero-emission vehicle” adds lots of greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere.

Politicians and electric car sellers don’t mention that. Most probably don’t even know.

In a future column, three more inconvenient facts about electric cars.

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Andy C

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No state will ever reach the unrealistic goals they set. Electric cars only by 2030 in some states, what a pipe dream by the less intelligent far left.

The facts in this article are an inconvenient truth for the left. As the late Rush Limbaugh would say “Liberalism is about feeling good, its not about solving problems”.
 

Wally

Choose Your Words Carefully...
And if your e-car battery cracks and flash fires, the toxic fumes will be impressive. Maybe Biden will make it illegal to have an accident.

And then we have to build all those charging stations, home remodeling ... replace satellite dishes with wind turbines....
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
Unless there are some breakthroughs on the knowledge front with regards to batteries, I don't think they'll ever be a good choice for a transportation solution. Maybe hydrogen... but in the meantime the world ought to be pouring money into researching the creation of evermore efficient diesel powered engines.
 

Wally

Choose Your Words Carefully...
Railroad diesels are very efficient and low polluting. They typically move a ton of freight 500 miles per gallon of diesel.

A truck can move a ton about 135 miles per gallon of diesel.

Many passenger rail lines are electrified which helps with urban pollution but requires electrical generation - Nuclear or fuel powered.

Maybe if we developed better hydro powered generation that would ease the burden.
When I think of all the mill-dams along the creeks there used to be around here, that is alot of power.

Of course, part two is storing the power, and making use of flooding times to offset winter and drought.
 
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