When God Repents

Matthew6:33

Withstand in the evil day. Eph 6:13
When God Repents
Days of Praise
by Henry M. Morris, Ph.D. | Jul. 25, 2023

“And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent.” (1 Samuel 15:29)

There are a number of Scriptures that speak of God repenting. For example, in the days before the great Flood, “it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth” (Genesis 6:6). In the same chapter containing our text, God said: “It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments” (1 Samuel 15:11). Yet, the Scriptures plainly teach that God changes not. “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent” (Numbers 23:19). Bible critics have made much of this apparent “contradiction” in the Bible.

There is no contradiction, of course. The words translated “repent” in both Old and New Testaments are used of actions that indicate outwardly that a “change of mind” has occurred inwardly. It’s precisely because God doesn’t repent concerning evil that His actions will change toward man when man truly repents (this human “repentance” can go either way, changing from good to evil, or vice versa), and God will respond accordingly, since He cannot change His own mind toward evil.

Thus, He said concerning national repentance, “If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them” (Jeremiah 18:8). That is, if the nation truly repents, then God will change His own projected course of action. He seems outwardly to “repent” specifically because He cannot repent in His inward attitude toward good and evil.

God has greatly blessed America in the past, but America’s people have drastically changed in recent years. Can the time be long coming when God must say: “It repenteth me that I have so favored this apostate nation?” HMM

https://www.icr.org/articles/type/6
 

Andy C

Well-Known Member
When God Repents
Days of Praise
by Henry M. Morris, Ph.D. | Jul. 25, 2023

“And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent.” (1 Samuel 15:29)

There are a number of Scriptures that speak of God repenting. For example, in the days before the great Flood, “it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth” (Genesis 6:6). In the same chapter containing our text, God said: “It repenteth me that I have set up Saul to be king: for he is turned back from following me, and hath not performed my commandments” (1 Samuel 15:11). Yet, the Scriptures plainly teach that God changes not. “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent” (Numbers 23:19). Bible critics have made much of this apparent “contradiction” in the Bible.

There is no contradiction, of course. The words translated “repent” in both Old and New Testaments are used of actions that indicate outwardly that a “change of mind” has occurred inwardly. It’s precisely because God doesn’t repent concerning evil that His actions will change toward man when man truly repents (this human “repentance” can go either way, changing from good to evil, or vice versa), and God will respond accordingly, since He cannot change His own mind toward evil.

Thus, He said concerning national repentance, “If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them” (Jeremiah 18:8). That is, if the nation truly repents, then God will change His own projected course of action. He seems outwardly to “repent” specifically because He cannot repent in His inward attitude toward good and evil.

God has greatly blessed America in the past, but America’s people have drastically changed in recent years. Can the time be long coming when God must say: “It repenteth me that I have so favored this apostate nation?” HMM

https://www.icr.org/articles/type/6
I believe the use of the word “repent” in the verses you quoted is only used in one bible translation. Most, if not all other translations do not use the word repent.

To say God repents, in our understanding of the word repent, means God changes His mind. How can God change His mind when He already knows what will happen before it happens?

Numbers 23
19 God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good
20 Behold, I have received a command to bless; He has blessed, and I cannot reverse it.
 
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Matthew6:33

Withstand in the evil day. Eph 6:13
I believe the use of the word “repent” in the verses you quoted is only used in one bible translation. Most, if not all other translations do not use the word repent.

To say God repents, in our understanding of the word repent, means God changes His mind. How can God change His mind when He already knows what will happen before it happens?

Numbers 23
19 God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good
20 Behold, I have received a command to bless; He has blessed, and I cannot reverse it.
Did you read the article? I think the 2nd paragraph answers your question.

Your other question - I think yes God knows what will happen just like He knows He will change His mind about us when we exercise our free will. Before and after it happens.
 

Andy C

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Did you read the article? I think the 2nd paragraph answers your question.

Your other question - I think yes God knows what will happen just like He knows He will change His mind about us when we exercise our free will. Before and after it happens.
Thanks. I did read it earlier this morning, and did not read it again before posting.

I still believe He does not repent. The biblical use of the word repent, as quoted by you is used as a word we can understand. A better way for me to explain is God asking the below in Genesis. God asked the questions, but He already knew the answer, but the questions are included as a way for us to understand what was happening.

Genesis 3
But the LORD God called to the man, “Where are you?”
10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”
11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”
 

Wally

Its all about Jesus and your relationship with Him
Sometimes Bible context is written for the benefit of the reader.

What we may call a change of God's mind is only from our limited state of existence.

God sees the avenues ahead and tells us of the possibilities. He already knows the response and route that will be taken.
But when we respond in affirmation, or make the "right choice", to us it appears He changes His mind and withholds calamity and even releases blessings.

Context 1 God is Omnicient
Context 2 We are not
Context 3 We have a tiny understanding of His Grace and Mercy when we think He has changed His mind,

But when we understand His love extended His Grace and Mercy while we were yet sinners - disobedient enemies...

our understanding grows all the more deeper.
 

Andy C

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Sometimes Bible context is written for the benefit of the reader.

What we may call a change of God's mind is only from our limited state of existence.

God sees the avenues ahead and tells us of the possibilities. He already knows the response and route that will be taken.
But when we respond in affirmation, or make the "right choice", to us it appears He changes His mind and withholds calamity and even releases blessings.

Context 1 God is Omnicient
Context 2 We are not
Context 3 We have a tiny understanding of His Grace and Mercy when we think He has changed His mind,

But when we understand His love extended His Grace and Mercy while we were yet sinners - disobedient enemies...

our understanding grows all the more deeper.
You said it far better than I did. Well stated brother.
 

Set free 47

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Too bad most of Christianity thinks "repent" means to turn from sins or turn over a new leaf, etc, Instead of its correct meaning which simply means a change of mind. I think Charles Ryrie got it right: coming to faith in Christ is repenting; they both mean the same thing and simply involve a change of mind from unbelief, or wrong belief, to belief in Christ as one's Savior.
John in his Gospel and Epistles never used the term "repent" to be saved, instead he used "believe" in Christ for salvation in the numerous passages on salvation. Maybe that is because by about 90 AD when he penned his Gospel and three Letters people even in his time were twisting the meaning of the word repent to half a dozen false meanings like many teachers do today.
One of my least favorite Hymns is "Victory in Jesus" because of this one verse in it: "I repented of my sins and won the victory!" Repenting of one's sins does not save anyone, only trusting in Christ as one's Savior brings us salvation; and the person does not "win the victory": Christ won it for us!
 
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Wally

Its all about Jesus and your relationship with Him
I suspect anyone can repent - change their mind. Some may have the mindset that swimming with sharks is safe, while others believe it insanely stupid.
(i could change it to skydiving or any risky activity)

And any change of mind takes faith to believe the object is worth recognition as being truth- accurate.


The critical element is the object - statement that causes repentance. If it is truth (God's Truth) it still takes faith to believe it.

Misplaced faith is still faith but it's object is a fallacy or some kind of lie or half truth.


That is why Christ made it so clear, HE is the object of our faith HE is the one to believe.
HE speaks Truth that our repentance can be founded on the Perfect and not some compromised or corrupt idea

John 11:26, 27 HCSB
Everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die—ever. Do you believe this?”
“Yes, Lord,” she told Him, “I believe You are the Messiah, the Son of God, who comes into the world.”


John 17:17
Sanctify them by the truth; Your word is truth.

John 6:63
The Spirit is the One who gives life. The flesh doesn’t help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.


John 14:6
Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

John 20:31
But these are written so that you may believe Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and by believing you may have life in His name.
 
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Matthew6:33

Withstand in the evil day. Eph 6:13
I am not knowledgeable enough to go deep into this. I understand how the word repent is being used in this context. But I guess I feel like "relent" better explains God's mindset in these examples?

My ignorance exposed, let me just ask...be gentle when educating me on this. :peek:ahaha
Here are the definitions of repent and relent from Websters 1828 dictionary. Modern dictionaries suffer from linguistic theft :devilish over the years so maybe an older definition can help clarify.

https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/repent

https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/relent
 

Andy C

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Can you repent without believing? I think maybe faith and repentance are bound together, a work of the Holy Spirit in us.
From the late Jack Kelley, now living with Him.

Question: Can you explain what repentance means and how it plays into our salvation? Do we repent before, during, or after the moment of our salvation?
Answer: First, let’s clear up the misunderstanding about the meaning of repentance. The Greek word translated “repent”in the Bible is “metanoeo”. It means to change our mind about something. It’s a combination of “meta” (after) and “noeo” (to perceive or understand). It’s like saying, “I used to believe one way, but that was before I understood. Now that I understand I believe a different way. I have repented.”

Before we can be saved we have to change our mind (repent) about two things. One is to admit that we’re sinners who would be hopelessly lost without a Savior, and the other is to believe that God sent His Son to pay the penalty due us for our sins so He could be our Savior. Therefore repentance comes before salvation, and that’s why we say, “Repent and be saved.”

Some people have the mistaken belief that to repent means to change our behavior. But if that was the case the phrase “repent and be saved” would mean we’d all have to stop sinning before we could be saved. It doesn’t make sense.

Many believers do experience a change in their behavior after they’re saved, But when that happens it’s not called repentance, It’s called the regeneration of the Holy Spirit.

https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/repentance-and-salvation-2/
 

ItIsFinished!

Blood bought child of the King of kings.
From the late Jack Kelley, now living with Him.

Question: Can you explain what repentance means and how it plays into our salvation? Do we repent before, during, or after the moment of our salvation?
Answer: First, let’s clear up the misunderstanding about the meaning of repentance. The Greek word translated “repent”in the Bible is “metanoeo”. It means to change our mind about something. It’s a combination of “meta” (after) and “noeo” (to perceive or understand). It’s like saying, “I used to believe one way, but that was before I understood. Now that I understand I believe a different way. I have repented.”

Before we can be saved we have to change our mind (repent) about two things. One is to admit that we’re sinners who would be hopelessly lost without a Savior, and the other is to believe that God sent His Son to pay the penalty due us for our sins so He could be our Savior. Therefore repentance comes before salvation, and that’s why we say, “Repent and be saved.”

Some people have the mistaken belief that to repent means to change our behavior. But if that was the case the phrase “repent and be saved” would mean we’d all have to stop sinning before we could be saved. It doesn’t make sense.

Many believers do experience a change in their behavior after they’re saved, But when that happens it’s not called repentance, It’s called the regeneration of the Holy Spirit.

https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/repentance-and-salvation-2/
Jack Kelley was the king of conciseness when it came to packing a punch with the truth of the Scriptures.
Many upon many misunderstand what repentance really means, Jack wasn't one of them.

Alot of strife and division has come about over the centuries due to the misunderstanding of what repentance does and does not mean.
It should not be that way ever.
It isn't that complicated to understand and God is not the author of confusion.
 

Umbrella Girl

Now we see through a glass, darkly; (1 Cor 13:12)
Because we are so used to hearing the incorrect definition of repent, the thought of God repenting sounds odd…
 
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