US: 'These are Russia's lies on Ukraine crisis'

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US: 'These are Russia's lies on Ukraine crisis'
U.S. Department of State publishes 'Fiction vs. Facts' list to counter Russian claims regarding Ukraine crisis.

The U.S. Department of State, working with the U.S. interagency, say that they are aware of several Russian military and intelligence entities that are engaged in "information confrontation targeting Ukraine".

"These activities include the spread of disinformation and propaganda attempting to paint Ukraine and Ukrainian government officials as the aggressor in the Russia-Ukraine relationship." the U.S. Department of State wrote. "Such measures are intended to influence Western countries into believing Ukraine’s behavior could provoke a global conflict and convince Russian citizens of the need for Russian military action in Ukraine."

The State Department published the following list of what they define as "Russian lies about the current crisis and its causes":

FICTION: Ukraine and Ukrainian government officials are the aggressor in the Russia-Ukraine relationship.

FACT: False statements from the Putin regime blame the victim, Ukraine, for Russia’s aggression. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, occupies Crimea, controls armed forces in the Donbas, and has now amassed more than 100,000 troops on the border with Ukraine while President Putin threatens “retaliatory military-technical” measures if his demands are not met.

FICTION: The West is pushing Ukraine toward a conflict.

FACT: Moscow instigated the current crisis by placing more than 100,000 troops on the border of Ukraine, with no similar military activity on the Ukrainian side of the border. Russian military and intelligence entities are targeting Ukraine with disinformation attempting to paint Ukraine and Ukrainian government officials as the aggressor in the Russia-Ukraine relationship. The Russian government is trying to trick the world into believing Ukraine’s behavior could provoke a global conflict and to convince Russian citizens of the need for Russian military action in Ukraine. Russia blames others for its own aggression, but it is Moscow’s responsibility to end this crisis peacefully through de-escalation and diplomacy. Moscow invaded Ukraine in 2014, occupies Crimea, and continues to fuel conflict in eastern Ukraine. This follows a pattern of Russian behavior of undermining the sovereignty and territorial integrity of countries in the region – invading and occupying parts of Georgia in 2008, and failing to honor its 1999 commitment to withdraw its troops and munitions from Moldova, where they remain without the government’s consent.

FICTION: Russia’s deployment of combat forces is a mere repositioning of troops on its own territory.

FACT: Deploying more than 100,000 Russian troops, including battle-hardened combat forces and offensive weaponry with no plausible innocuous explanation, to the borders of a country that Russia has previously invaded and still occupies in places is no mere troop rotation. It is a clear, renewed Russian threat to Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. The buildup is paired with active disinformation measures designed to undermine confidence in the Ukrainian government and create a pretext for further Russian incursion.

FICTION: The United States has planned chemical weapons attacks in the Donbas.

FACT: The United States and Russia are parties to the Chemical Weapons Convention. In accordance with its obligations under that international agreement, the United States does not use chemical weapons. However, the Russian government has twice used chemical weapons in recent years to attack and attempt to assassinate opponents, including on foreign soil. Rather than fuel conflict in eastern Ukraine as Russia has done, the United States has provided more than $351 million in humanitarian assistance to those affected by Moscow’s aggression there since 2014. Russia is using statements from high-level officials as well as disinformation and propaganda outlets to intentionally spread outright falsehoods to attempt to create a pretext for military action.

FICTION: Russia is defending ethnic Russians in Ukraine.

FACT: There are no credible reports of any ethnic Russians or Russian speakers being under threat from the Ukrainian government. There are, however, credible reports that in Russia-occupied Crimea and in the Donbas, Ukrainians face suppression of their culture and national identity and live in an environment of severe repression and fear. In Crimea, Russia forces Ukrainians to assume Russian citizenship or lose their property, their access to healthcare, and their jobs. Those who peacefully express opposition to Russia’s occupation or control face imprisonment on baseless grounds, police raids on their homes, officially sanctioned discrimination, and in some cases torture and other abuses. Religious and ethnic minorities are investigated and prosecuted as “extremists” and “terrorists.”

FICTION: NATO has plotted against Russia since the end of the Cold War, encircled Russia with forces, broken supposed promises not to enlarge, and threatened Russia’s security with the prospect of Ukrainian membership in the Alliance.

FACT: NATO is a defensive alliance, whose purpose is to protect its member states. All Allies reaffirmed at the June 2021 Brussels Summit that “the Alliance does not seek confrontation and poses no threat to Russia.” In fact, in 2002 President Putin himself stated “Every country has the right to choose the way it ensures its security. This holds for the Baltic states as well. Secondly, and more specifically, NATO is primarily a defensive bloc.”

NATO does not encircle Russia – Russia’s land border is just over 20,000 kilometers long. Of that, less than one-sixteenth (1,215 kilometers), is shared with NATO members. Russia has land borders with 14 countries. Only five of them are NATO members.

In response to Russia’s use of military force against its neighbors, NATO deployed four multinational battlegroups to the Baltic States and Poland in 2016. These forces are rotational, defensive, proportionate, and requested by the host nations. Before Russia’s illegal seizure of Crimea, there were no plans to deploy Allied troops to the eastern part of the Alliance.

NATO never promised not to admit new members. NATO enlargement is not directed against Russia. Every sovereign nation has the right to choose its own security arrangements and to enter into defensive regional alliances for purposes of self-defense. This is a fundamental principle of European security, reflected in the UN Charter, and is one that Russia has affirmed in myriad international and regional instruments such as the Helsinki Final Act.

FICTION: The West shuns diplomacy and goes straight to measures like sanctions.

FACT: The United States and our partners are engaging in intensive diplomacy to resolve this crisis, including directly with the Russian government. President Biden has spoken with President Putin twice and U.S. officials have held dozens of high-level meetings and phone calls with Russian and European counterparts as part of a comprehensive diplomatic effort to resolve this situation peacefully. What remains to be seen is whether Russia is willing to meet its responsibilities as a member of the global community and take steps to de-escalate the crisis it has generated. But we have also made clear, publicly and privately, that we and our partners will impose swift and severe economic costs on the Russian economy should President Putin choose to further invade Ukraine.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/320929
 

GEOINTAnalyst

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There are a few facts missing from that list

In 2014 Ukraine built dams to stop the flow of water to the North Crimean Canal and also closed the sluices that were feeding it and up to 85 percent of the peninsula’s water needs, through the canal stretching from the Dnepr River which reduced the flow of water from the normal spring level of 80-85 cubic meters per second to 4 cubic meters per second, the lowest technically feasible volume. This caused the Crimean farmers to lose millions in revenue affecting some 120,000 hectares of farmland.
Russia was willing to compensate farmers for some of their losses but stressed that Kiev refused to accept advance payments for Crimean water.

A status referendum was held on 16 March 2014 in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the local government of Sevastopol. The referendum essentially asked the people if they wanted to join the Russian Federation as a federal subject or remain part of Ukraine.

Note that 97 percent of the Crimean population voted for the integration of the region into the Russian Federation. The voter turnout was 83 percent. Following the results, the Crimean Supreme Council declared independence from Ukraine. The vote, however, was boycotted by some loyal to Ukraine and declared illegitimate by Western governments and the United Nations. The Russians, however, considered it legitimate.

So why exactly did Russia invade and annex Crimea in 2014? The answer to this question is straightforward. There are two reasons. Russia has a historical claim over the Crimea territory and its inhabitants.

The second reason is that majority of the Crimean population seems to prefer being part of the Russian Federation than the Ukrainian government, the Russian invasion and annexation met little to zero resistance from the Crimean population.

So what did Obama and then Vice Pres Biden do? In 2014 - when Biden was vice president and Barack Obama sat in the Oval Office- that administration tried calls with Russian President Vladimir Putin and sanctions threats to stop Moscow from annexing the Crimea. That didn't work.

On February 28,2014 President Barack Obama released a statement warning Russia not to intervene in Crimea: 'Any violation of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity would be deeply destabilizing, which is not in the interest of Ukraine, Russia, or Europe' and that it would be 'a clear violation of Russia's commitment to respect the independence and sovereignty and borders of Ukraine, and of international laws.'

On 1 March,2014 Obama held a phone conversation with Putin and said that the Russian invasion was a 'violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity ... [and a] breach of international law.' He warned of 'greater political and economic isolation' and threatened to withdraw the United States from the 40th G8 summit chaired by Russia.

On March 3,2014 the Obama White House announced that the United States would not send a presidential delegation to the 2014 Winter Paralympics in Sochi, Russia. But the US Paralympics athletes went anyway.

So nothing the Democrats did then worked, so I do not see much change now.


https://www.eutimes.net/2014/05/ukraine-builds-dam-on-river-to-stop-it-from-reaching-crimea/

https://www.profolus.com/topics/why-did-russia-invade-and-annex-crimea/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/fb-10281351/What-2014-Russia-invasion-Crimea.html
 

Spartan Sprinter 1

Formerly known as Shaun
There are a few facts missing from that list

In 2014 Ukraine built dams to stop the flow of water to the North Crimean Canal and also closed the sluices that were feeding it and up to 85 percent of the peninsula’s water needs, through the canal stretching from the Dnepr River which reduced the flow of water from the normal spring level of 80-85 cubic meters per second to 4 cubic meters per second, the lowest technically feasible volume. This caused the Crimean farmers to lose millions in revenue affecting some 120,000 hectares of farmland.
Russia was willing to compensate farmers for some of their losses but stressed that Kiev refused to accept advance payments for Crimean water.

A status referendum was held on 16 March 2014 in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the local government of Sevastopol. The referendum essentially asked the people if they wanted to join the Russian Federation as a federal subject or remain part of Ukraine.

Note that 97 percent of the Crimean population voted for the integration of the region into the Russian Federation. The voter turnout was 83 percent. Following the results, the Crimean Supreme Council declared independence from Ukraine. The vote, however, was boycotted by some loyal to Ukraine and declared illegitimate by Western governments and the United Nations. The Russians, however, considered it legitimate.

So why exactly did Russia invade and annex Crimea in 2014? The answer to this question is straightforward. There are two reasons. Russia has a historical claim over the Crimea territory and its inhabitants.

The second reason is that majority of the Crimean population seems to prefer being part of the Russian Federation than the Ukrainian government, the Russian invasion and annexation met little to zero resistance from the Crimean population.

So what did Obama and then Vice Pres Biden do? In 2014 - when Biden was vice president and Barack Obama sat in the Oval Office- that administration tried calls with Russian President Vladimir Putin and sanctions threats to stop Moscow from annexing the Crimea. That didn't work.

On February 28,2014 President Barack Obama released a statement warning Russia not to intervene in Crimea: 'Any violation of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity would be deeply destabilizing, which is not in the interest of Ukraine, Russia, or Europe' and that it would be 'a clear violation of Russia's commitment to respect the independence and sovereignty and borders of Ukraine, and of international laws.'

On 1 March,2014 Obama held a phone conversation with Putin and said that the Russian invasion was a 'violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity ... [and a] breach of international law.' He warned of 'greater political and economic isolation' and threatened to withdraw the United States from the 40th G8 summit chaired by Russia.

On March 3,2014 the Obama White House announced that the United States would not send a presidential delegation to the 2014 Winter Paralympics in Sochi, Russia. But the US Paralympics athletes went anyway.

So nothing the Democrats did then worked, so I do not see much change now.


https://www.eutimes.net/2014/05/ukraine-builds-dam-on-river-to-stop-it-from-reaching-crimea/

https://www.profolus.com/topics/why-did-russia-invade-and-annex-crimea/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/fb-10281351/What-2014-Russia-invasion-Crimea.html

Yep Putin probably laughed and used his letters as toilet paper
 

Bethlehem57

Well-Known Member
FICTION: The US under Biden will force Russia to back down because they are scared of the US with Biden in charge.

FACT: They couldn't care less what we do or say because they are probably telling Biden what to do and say because they own the entire Biden family.
FICTION: The US under Briben is ready for an incursion into the Ukraine and has troops “on the alert.”

FACT: As stated in OP, are so many Russian troops deployed to the Ukrainian border that they are basically surrounded by Russians and ALONG WITH those troops, Russia has sent at least 5,000 tanks. If Briben sent any troops from the US now, we would be completely ineffective because of our “fearless leader’s “ preparedness. He has weakened our military and our enemies know that his wish washy ways have made the US (in such a very short time) ineffective.
 

RestInHim

Well-Known Member
Since the breakup of the USSR and reunification of Germany around "1990-1991", NATO has expanded closer and closer to Russia. Isn't Russia justified in requiring the security arrangements "that were agreed upon at that time? NATO wasn't suppose to move an inch further east.

Also, Russia has time and time again repeated they have no intention of invading the Ukraine.
 

alisani

Well-Known Member
Meanwhile we got Biden's red mouthpiece pandering, condescending and just outright gaslighting the American people. Whew, there are days when I could just smack her instead of praying for her.
 
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