Ben D
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This could be the last gasp...
Ukraine - War or Peace?
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daygo
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Touch and go.
jayhawkbasketball
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I think it will happen in the next 3-6 weeks. They’ll want to invade while the ground is still hard, and I read there’s a moonless night on Feb. 1st. Belarus troop buildup is happening right now too and they’re supposed to have “troop exercises” there in February. The Russian Embassy is also being emptied out.
I think it’s gonna happen. Even the Biden administration is telling us to prepare for it at this point.
I think it’s gonna happen. Even the Biden administration is telling us to prepare for it at this point.
GEOINTAnalyst
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In 2013, the North Crimean Canal drew 1.5 million cubic meters of water. It amounted to about 85 percent of Crimea’s drinking and irrigation water. But shortly after the annexation, Ukrainian authorities shut the canal with a hastily-built dam in 2014. There was some in the Ukrainian Gov that was against this one Vasily Stashuk, Ukraine’s top irrigation official at the time, who resisted the blocking of the canal. The blockade has nearly eliminated agriculture in Crimea. Russian President Vladimir Putin wants his troops to reach the Dnieper River that dissects Ukraine, seize a land corridor to annexed Crimea and ensure the resumption of water supply to the arid peninsula.
So the whole problem is about water the elixir of life
See - https://inpress-ua.translate.goog/r...uto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2017/1/4/dam-leaves-crimea-population-in-chronic-water-shortage
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/12/3/how-real-is-the-threat-of-a-russian-invasion-of-ukraine
So the whole problem is about water the elixir of life
See - https://inpress-ua.translate.goog/r...uto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2017/1/4/dam-leaves-crimea-population-in-chronic-water-shortage
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/12/3/how-real-is-the-threat-of-a-russian-invasion-of-ukraine
Dragontiger777
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That what you said might be February 1st/......
Don't forget February 3rd will have the Winter Olypmic
JamesSuth
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I would expect it to happen while it is still cold. Europe relies on Russian gas and if they invade in winter the EU will be much more reluctant to do anything that might affect gas supplies.
Spartan Sprinter 1
Formerly known as Shaun
They're probably going to play bluff games for a while before they act and choose to invade i reckon
LivnForChrist
Jesus Christ is Lord
Interesting things are happening for sure.
jayhawkbasketball
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He invade Crimea during the opening ceremonies of the Olympics in 2014.
Spartan Sprinter 1
Formerly known as Shaun
AHAH just seen Biden do the watch what we do threat if you guys invade Ukraine.
Little early for April fools mate
Little early for April fools mate
I saw a recent map that showed where the various NATO nations were stationed in Eastern Europe and Canada's troops are currently in Latvia. I thought it was interesting because while I was camping in summer 2020 with my family in Ontario we bumped into a man on the hiking trails who was actually from Manitoba as well. He told me he had come to Ontario because his son's military base was nearby and the son was about to be deployed to Latvia. I think I will say a prayer for that man and his son. He was so kind and showed us the way to an amazing lookout point on the trail and helped my daughter climb up the rocks.
athenasius
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Iran is one of those "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" situations for Russia. No love between Iran and Russia but they do work together as Iran has just joined the Russian Chinese SCO with Iran as the junior member.
Russia prefers to stay one step ahead especially while Putin is considering all his options with the Ukraine. He's probably informing Iran that they better not take advantage of the situation and try and grab more of Syria while Russian attention is elsewhere in the Ukraine.
athenasius
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War. But maybe not quite what everyone is expecting. I think Putin will use his mercenaries and or the rebels in the more Russian of the areas within the Ukraine to create trouble, then go in to bring peace and stability with his regular troops all handy in the area.
He will use the Olympics as cover, counting on that as a distraction for the international news media because modern media has the attention span of a flea and if you give it something shiny to play with, all is well.
It's how he did the Crimean takeover under Obama's watch. Biden has the same tendency to draw "red lines" and then ignore them.
Biden is already helping Russia and Turkey shut off the future East Med gas pipeline from Israel via Cyprus and Greece.
Biden is literally doing whatever Putin wants.
Russia is playing rope-a-dope with a befuddled incompetent American president. Putin knows that Biden is in over his mushy head and doesn't have the wherewithal to put up any kind of resistance. The West, for that matter, is weak now so what's to stop his invasion? This could be a boon to the Republicans though in the midterm elections, to witness how bungling Joe will handle this crisis even worse than the extremely messed up Afghan pullout.
Carl
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If Russia wants Ukraine so bad why don't they work with them. But I guess that isn't there way!
Ben D
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Unfortunately there are always two sides to a dispute, and which one has the most merit is in the eye of the beholder, and so the ultimate way to end it is to use force. There is also a universal principle always at work everywhere, higher power/pressure will always flow into lower power/pressure areas. Russian power is greater than Ukrainian/NATO at the moment in the area in dispute, so that's where it is probable Russia will push in.
We have 195 National Guard troops giving weapons training to Ukranian troops. There are thousands of Americans in Ukraine. I think our Embassy staff is being reduced. The National Guard troops are not authorized to fight. Hopefully we will have a less embarrassing and costly retreat when we surrender.
Possible Trojan Horse operation from Russia: Drive tanks into Ukraine with turrets turned backward. Satellite imagery will make it appear that Russia is retreating.
Possible Trojan Horse operation from Russia: Drive tanks into Ukraine with turrets turned backward. Satellite imagery will make it appear that Russia is retreating.
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