UK Govt Demands Gab Ban A User For "Hatred"

[Jan51]

(I received this as an email. It is also on Gab's website but I didn't want to link it because of their unbiblical dominionism.)

The Gab Files: UK Govt Demands Gab Ban A User For "Hatred"

Gab is going to begin publishing the purely censorship-based inbound requests that we receive from governments. These are the cases where for the most part European bodies like the Met and Europol send us transparently political takedown requests with no law enforcement purpose. Essentially they’re trying to silence a person that they’ve already thrown in prison or are about to. If they don’t want us to talk about these frivolous requests, they can stop sending them to us.

Welcome to the Gab Files.

Today we received one such request from the UK government.

They cited Public Order Act 1986 which says the following:

(1)A person who publishes or distributes written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting is guilty of an offence if—(a) he intends thereby to stir up racial hatred(b) having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby

They didn’t tell us who the person is who allegedly broke this dystopian nonsense law, they didn’t tell us whether the content which they convicted him of was found on our site, and they didn’t specify which posts, if any, actually violated UK law.

They simply told us that they imprisoned someone for expressing wrongthink online, that person had a Gab account and the UK government expected us to unperson this person from the Internet at their behest when no violation of our TOS was found.

Gab is an American company which operates its business in accordance with U.S. law. Gab has no business or operations in the United Kingdom of any kind, nor does it inquire as to, or log, the residence or criminal records of its users or readers.

Gab’s policy is to not remove material unless it violates Gab’s terms of service which was drafted in accordance with US law, in particular the First Amendment.

“Hate speech” or “offensive speech” as such is not illegal here and in fact benefits from unambiguous constitutional protection backed by a half-century of precedent.

Our response to the UK is the same as it is to Germany, France, China, and every other country who tries to remove lawful content from the American Internet: get bent.

 

[Kerbluey]

I don’t always agree with Torba, but we need more people like him. His responses to govs and reporters are hilarious.

 

[Everlasting Life]

I wonder if our brothers and sisters in Christ in the UK are having a hard time getting to RF because of this stuff.

 

[JoyJoyJoy]

I have never heard of Gab.
Thanks for the article.

 

[Tall Timbers]

Apparently you can take a country out of the European Union, but you can't take the European Union out of the country.

 

[GHoe]

I have never heard of Gab.
Thanks for the article.

I hadn't heard of Gab or Andrew Torba (founder) until this last weekend when I started looking into Christian Nationalism and located a book he and Andrew Isker wrote. "Christian Nationalism, A biblical guide to taking dominion and disciplining nations".

I then found the following excerpt from Torba in a Jewish Insider article :
“Our primary goal is to build a parallel Christian society, economy and infrastructure which will fill the vacuum of the failed secular state when it fails,” Torba and Isker write, claiming — as a matter of course and despite evidence to the contrary — that “America is a Christian nation.” - Jewish Insider

And the following from a Jerusalem Post article :
"Responding to an article on his comments by MediaMatters, Torba stressed that Jewish conservatives are not welcome in the conservative movement unless "they repent and accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior."

"We don't want people who are atheists. We don't want people who are Jewish. We don't want people who are, you know, nonbelievers, agnostic, whatever. This is an explicitly Christian movement because this is an explicitly Christian country. We're not saying we're going to deport all these people or whatever. You're free to stay here. You're not going to be forced to convert or anything like this because that's not biblical whatsoever. But you're going to enjoy the fruits of living in a Christian society under Christian laws and under a Christian culture and you can thank us later."

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I don't see how these view points are biblical and I can see this "Christian lawed, Christian ruled society" Torba wants to build, being an apostate Christianity that is accepted by many because it tickles their ears. Seems dangerous to me. Honestly it feels like the end game to deceive even the elect if possible.. I think I'm going to read his book and study what the word says in contrast.

As an aside, I actually drove to the next city over to buy it and another book at a Barnes and Noble because I'd really rather prefer that there isn't a digital record of me buying it on Amazon. Lol.. Interesting, that's where we are in time, where those types if thoughts exist.

 

[Tall Timbers]

Sounds like he's one who has an end times scenario where man finally gets things right and then Jesus returns. Won't find that scenario in the Bible, not even a hint of it.

 

[ItIsFinished!]

I hadn't heard of Gab or Andrew Torba (founder) until this last weekend when I started looking into Christian Nationalism and located a book he and Andrew Isker wrote. "Christian Nationalism, A biblical guide to taking dominion and disciplining nations".

I then found the following excerpt from Torba in a Jewish Insider article :
“Our primary goal is to build a parallel Christian society, economy and infrastructure which will fill the vacuum of the failed secular state when it fails,” Torba and Isker write, claiming — as a matter of course and despite evidence to the contrary — that “America is a Christian nation.” - Jewish Insider

And the following from a Jerusalem Post article :
"Responding to an article on his comments by MediaMatters, Torba stressed that Jewish conservatives are not welcome in the conservative movement unless "they repent and accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior."

"We don't want people who are atheists. We don't want people who are Jewish. We don't want people who are, you know, nonbelievers, agnostic, whatever. This is an explicitly Christian movement because this is an explicitly Christian country. We're not saying we're going to deport all these people or whatever. You're free to stay here. You're not going to be forced to convert or anything like this because that's not biblical whatsoever. But you're going to enjoy the fruits of living in a Christian society under Christian laws and under a Christian culture and you can thank us later."

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I don't see how these view points are biblical and I can see this "Christian lawed, Christian ruled society" Torba wants to build, being an apostate Christianity that is accepted by many because it tickles their ears. Seems dangerous to me. Honestly it feels like the end game to deceive even the elect if possible.. I think I'm going to read his book and study what the word says in contrast.

As an aside, I actually drove to the next city over to buy it and another book at a Barnes and Noble because I'd really rather prefer that there isn't a digital record of me buying it on Amazon. Lol.. Interesting, that's where we are in time, where those types if thoughts exist.

Kinda of disturbing.
Definitely NOT BIBLICAL.

 

[Kerbluey]

Sounds like he's one who has an end times scenario where man finally gets things right and then Jesus returns. Won't find that scenario in the Bible, not even a hint of it.

Yeah, that’s the impression I’ve gotten having seen his posts on Gab. He’s in for a big disappointment, but I still enjoy his attitude with reporters and others trying to se him up. We sorely need politicians with his backbone. The Dems sure have them.

 

[DWB]

The truth cannot be racist or hateful. It is the truth, like it or not. Being quiet or hiding the facts is hurting everyone.

 

[mphsmom]

I had a Gab account for a little while last year, but got rid of it real quick. Besides being highly anti-semetic, the so-called Christians on there can be downright nasty.

 

[Círeth]

I wonder if our brothers and sisters in Christ in the UK are having a hard time getting to RF because of this stuff.

VPN for the win if they do try (which I don't think they have yet but wouldn't know because the intrusive annoyance of ads absolutely everywhere they can cram them has finally driven me to use a VPN everywhere).

I have just been ill, ground down and very discouraged by my illness for a while which is why my appearances are sporadic at the moment.

 

[Kerbluey]

VPN for the win if they do try (which I don't think they have yet but wouldn't know because the intrusive annoyance of ads absolutely everywhere they can cram them has finally driven me to use a VPN everywhere).

I have just been ill, ground down and very discouraged by my illness for a while which is why my appearances are sporadic at the moment.

It’s good to see you, Cireth. I often think about you and pray for you.

 

[Círeth]

It’s good to see you, Cireth. I often think about you and pray for you.

Thank you.

 

[lismore]

I wonder if our brothers and sisters in Christ in the UK are having a hard time getting to RF because of this stuff.

I had 'safe search' activated by my ISP to filter out offensive and adult material, it also began to filter out RF a couple of years back. I had to disable the safe search feature to post here. Glad I did. God Bless

 

[Círeth]

I had 'safe search' activated by my ISP to filter out offensive and adult material, it also began to filter out RF a couple of years back. I had to disable the safe search feature to post here. Glad I did. God Bless

You can also use a public DNS server, aka a proxy server, like Cloudflare or Google DNS if that ever becomes ineffective.

For those who don't know what those are, websites have a numerical address first and a human memorable word address attached to their numerical address.

DNS stands for Domain Name Server and they're basically the internet's phonebooks.

When you go to a website your computer sends a number look up request to your ISPs DNS and it returns the number so your computer can find the website.

If your ISP has decided to ban a site you can't get there by asking their phonebook for the number. Unless you can request that they turn off the filter option. If you can't get it turned off that's where a public DNS comes in.

It's like saying "this phonebook has the number censored out so I'll use a phonebook that does have the number".

If you configure your computer's settings to go to a different DNS server with internet requests you can bypass your ISP's banlist.

This is free, unlike any decent VPN, which cost money. Google DNS also has its own firewall which is added protection against malware.

VPNs do have the advantage of being encrypted though which prevents piggy in the middle attacks on your data.

I use both Google's DNS and my VPN because my ISP banned my VPN. So to use my VPN I have to use a different DNS first. Since that adds another layer of malware protection I don't mind now I know I can do it. It was very annoying at first though.

 

[lismore]

You can also use a public DNS server, aka a proxy server, like Cloudflare or Google DNS if that ever becomes ineffective.

Thanks Cireth! I'll keep that in mind, I am managing to access here fine for the moment. At the time I thought it was weird that RF was listed as an adult site. Having been fellowshipping here for a bit with you all I have heard how much resistance there is in the world to the truth and that we're truly in the last days. God Bless

 

[Círeth]

Thanks Cireth! I'll keep that in mind, I am managing to access here fine for the moment. At the time I thought it was weird that RF was listed as an adult site. Having been fellowshipping here for a bit with you all I have heard how much resistance there is in the world to the truth and that we're truly in the last days. God Bless

Yeah, that is weird. I mean we are all adults here but that's not usually what that means.

God bless.

 

[lismore]

Yeah, that is weird. I mean we are all adults here but that's not usually what that means.

God bless.

Haha yes! I'm thinking it was 'offensive' material in the sense of posts here giving an alternate view to 'woke' issues. Hence RF was classed as an adult site. The UK seems to be extremely anti-biblical Christianity now sadly. Believing the bible is seen as hate. God Bless