Trump plan finished, but not sealed, and still being tweaked

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Trump plan finished, but not sealed, and still being tweaked
According to the sources, the drafters of the document are taking into consideration both the realities on the ground and input they are receiving from various quarters.
By Herb Keinon
May 15, 2019

The Trump administration's Mideast peace plan, while written, is not a closed and sealed document and is being tweaked as new information comes in, according to diplomatic sources. According to the sources, the drafters of the document – Trump's senior advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner, Mideast envoy Jason Greenblatt, and US ambassador to Israel David Friedman – are taking into consideration both the realities on the ground and input they are receiving from various quarters.
The sources, however, seemed confident that the plan will indeed be presented, even though voices have been raised encouraging the administration not to present the plan if it has no chance of success.

Former chief of staff Gadi Eizenkot reportedly told Greenblatt at a meeting last week that there could be a violent escalation on the West Bank, and that this is something that the administration should take into consideration when deciding on presenting the plan. Kushner said last month that the plan would be presented after Ramadan, which ends on June 4, and Greenblatt said last week that it will come after Shavuot, which begins on June 8.

The draft document is reported to be nearly 200 pages long, and – as Kushner said last month – it is an “in-depth operational document,” that shows what we think is possible, how people can live together, how security can work, how interaction can work, and really, how you try to form the outline of what a brighter future can be."

Though the plan has been in the works for more than two years, very few details of it have emerged beyond that it will provide concrete proposals to dealing with the core issues of Jerusalem, refugees, borders and security arrangement. It is also expected to have a heavy economic component, relying on support from the Arab world, in an effort to improve the lives of the Palestinians.

Vague statements that the plan will be released after Ramadan and Shavuot – without any exact date given – has triggered speculation that the plan, delayed so often already, may not ever be released, though diplomatic sources involved in the process said this was not likely.

Greenblatt in an interview on Friday with Majalla – a Saudi-owned, London-based weekly that appears online in Arabic, English and Farsi – said: “There will never be a perfect time to try to make peace, but the status quo does not work for anyone – people are suffering; the region is suffering.”

https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Trump-plan-finished-but-not-sealed-and-still-being-tweaked-589801
 

athenasius

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I"m having the hardest time voting on the current poll. Do I think it's a dud, yes and no. The real deal, yes and no.

I think the plan when it comes out will cause a LOT of screaming, mostly in the West Bank, Gaza and possibly others but mostly Hamas and their buddies. The rest of the planet is getting tired of the perpetual toddler tantrum.

I don't think it will bring peace. Nothing will. I do think it may be a catalyst to bring on another minor middle east war of sorts, such as a few years back with the Gaza crisis. I can see Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and the other bad guys stirring the peasants up for more riots.

What I think might be the lasting effect of it, and this is where it will be effective in the long run, is that it will remove some of the illegitimate claims of the so called Palestinians living in surrounding countries and it will end the permanent refugee status that the great great grandkids of the arabs who turned against Israel in 1948 have enjoyed. Unlike any other refugee population on earth.

They can't have their "right of return". That is simply not legal. They were born in foreign countries, to people born in those countries such as Jordan, Syria and Lebanon.

The Arabs within Israel will have to decide to live peacefully within Israel and stop claiming land that isn't theirs as a homeland.

And as Trump cleverly did, he took Jerusalem, right off the bargaining table.

So at best, this is simply the framework for a new way of working out the ultimate peace deal, which the AC will ratify or in some way confirm. And at worst it is exactly that. It won't bring peace, so in that sense it's a dud. But it's one more step into the prophetic, and it's going to be a game changer.
 

Anewcreationinjesus

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I"m having the hardest time voting on the current poll. Do I think it's a dud, yes and no. The real deal, yes and no.

I think the plan when it comes out will cause a LOT of screaming, mostly in the West Bank, Gaza and possibly others but mostly Hamas and their buddies. The rest of the planet is getting tired of the perpetual toddler tantrum.

I don't think it will bring peace. Nothing will. I do think it may be a catalyst to bring on another minor middle east war of sorts, such as a few years back with the Gaza crisis. I can see Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and the other bad guys stirring the peasants up for more riots.

What I think might be the lasting effect of it, and this is where it will be effective in the long run, is that it will remove some of the illegitimate claims of the so called Palestinians living in surrounding countries and it will end the permanent refugee status that the great great grandkids of the arabs who turned against Israel in 1948 have enjoyed. Unlike any other refugee population on earth.

They can't have their "right of return". That is simply not legal. They were born in foreign countries, to people born in those countries such as Jordan, Syria and Lebanon.

The Arabs within Israel will have to decide to live peacefully within Israel and stop claiming land that isn't theirs as a homeland.

And as Trump cleverly did, he took Jerusalem, right off the bargaining table.

So at best, this is simply the framework for a new way of working out the ultimate peace deal, which the AC will ratify or in some way confirm. And at worst it is exactly that. It won't bring peace, so in that sense it's a dud. But it's one more step into the prophetic, and it's going to be a game changer.
That I think just about sums it up athenasius :) the feeling that it's kind of working towards the "covenant with the many" in some sense, and will definitely be interesting to see its contents....
 
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