Trucks

[Tall Timbers]

2.0L

That's a really nice engine. That's what I have in my Bronco Sport. I also had it in my Escape. My sister's F150 has the 2.7 ltr. They've been using the ecoboost line for a good while now and I think they've got the issues worked out of them... though with engineers you can't be sure they don't inadvertently introduce a new issue. Problems with the older 2.0s have been rare. The 1.5 ltr had a couple of issues in the older models. My ecoboosts have been trouble free. I had a half dozen fluid leaks on my Escape that started last winter but I attribute that to crazy ultra severe driving conditions and not the vehicle itself. When the roads were crazy bad I should have just stayed home... but I get cabin fever and just need to get out for a short while each day.

 

[Andy C]

All this recent talk about trucks makes me miss my Ram 3500, and towing my fifth wheel cross country. Those days are gone, but a future Motorhome (class A or Class C) is still a viable option.

 

[Matthew6:33]

Could possibly be acquiring a 2008 GMC Sierra. We will see if it works out and we can settle on a price.

 

[LoudRam]

All this recent talk about trucks makes me miss my Ram 3500, and towing my fifth wheel cross country. Those days are gone, but a future Motorhome (class A or Class C) is still a viable option.

Prices are down on trailers but haven't dropped on Class A's or C's yet.

Personally I can't see myself in a class A but I've seen some really nice Super C's that I like but they are a bit out of my price range.

If I got full MSRP in trade for my truck and trailer I still couldn't touch a used Super C. Three to four years old and they are still in the mid 100k range

 

[Andy C]

Prices are down on trailers but haven't dropped on Class A's or C's yet.

Personally I can't see myself in a class A but I've seen some really nice Super C's that I like but they are a bit out of my price range.

If I got full MSRP in trade for my truck and trailer I still couldn't touch a used Super C. Three to four years old and they are still in the mid 100k range

I came within a final signature twice in the last year of buying a super C. But, the price just seems to be too high. I have looked at the regular C’s, but they all only have 30amp, and Ive only had 50amp RVs before, and do not want to have the manage the power load. With 50amps, I could have everything all powered on at once and not worry about tripping breakers.

 

[Andy C]

Prices are down on trailers but haven't dropped on Class A's or C's yet.

Personally I can't see myself in a class A but I've seen some really nice Super C's that I like but they are a bit out of my price range.

If I got full MSRP in trade for my truck and trailer I still couldn't touch a used Super C. Three to four years old and they are still in the mid 100k range

Forgot to add, the one we almost bought twice was the 2021 Thor Magnitude super C. It had the floor plan that worked for us, and it was easy to maneuver when on the test ride, plus it also had the Diesel engine exhaust brake which not all super Cs have.

 

[Matthew6:33]

Could possibly be acquiring a 2008 GMC Sierra. We will see if it works out and we can settle on a price.

I went and took a look at the truck the other day and it is a really nice truck... It has very low mileage for an 08. I took it for a test drive and it drove really well. My one concern was moisture on the floor boards after it rains or it goes through the car wash. I did not see any water damage on the headliner and the weatherstripping looks good. I heard this may be a known issue with the Sierra and people on youtube have been able to fix it. Maybe you truck guys have more insight.

 

[LoudRam]

I went and took a look at the truck the other day and it is a really nice truck... It has very low mileage for an 08. I took it for a test drive and it drove really well. My one concern was moisture on the floor boards after it rains or it goes through the car wash. I did not see any water damage on the headliner and the weatherstripping looks good. I heard this may be a known issue with the Sierra and people on youtube have been able to fix it. Maybe you truck guys have more insight.

On Rams there is a plastic vent on the bottom corner of the back of the cab that sometimes breaks and leaks. That is used to relieve pressure when shutting the doors. See if the truck your looking at has something like that. Also the third brake light is famous for leaking on many makes of trucks. That just requires a new gasket, easy fix.

 

[Matthew6:33]

On Rams there is a plastic vent on the bottom corner of the back of the cab that sometimes breaks and leaks. That is used to relieve pressure when shutting the doors. See if the truck your looking at has something like that. Also the third brake light is famous for leaking on many makes of trucks. That just requires a new gasket, easy fix.

Thanks for the reply, you are right, I think there are a few difference places in these trucks that can leak including the front windshield, weatherstripping, high brake light, or the xm antenna. I will have to check all of these areas with some baby powder and a hose. Should be going to finalize the deal soon.

 

[Tall Timbers]

@Andy C , does the following indicate that the GCWR or total weight of vehicle with trailer shouldn't exceed 12700 lbs? I thought I understood this stuff until we had a conversation about it some months ago... I'm going to weigh my new truck today empty.

3.5L PowerBoost™ Full Hybrid V6 430 @ 6,000 570 lb.-ft. @ 3,000
Available Max Towing: 12,700
Available Max Payload: 2,120

 

[Andy C]

@Andy C , does the following indicate that the GCWR or total weight of vehicle with trailer shouldn't exceed 12700 lbs? I thought I understood this stuff until we had a conversation about it some months ago... I'm going to weigh my new truck today empty.

3.5L PowerBoost™ Full Hybrid V6 430 @ 6,000 570 lb.-ft. @ 3,000
Available Max Towing: 12,700
Available Max Payload: 2,120

The below will help.

https://www.motortrend.com/features/163-1306-truck-rating-terminology-and-definitions/

 

[LoudRam]

@Andy C , does the following indicate that the GCWR or total weight of vehicle with trailer shouldn't exceed 12700 lbs? I thought I understood this stuff until we had a conversation about it some months ago... I'm going to weigh my new truck today empty.

3.5L PowerBoost™ Full Hybrid V6 430 @ 6,000 570 lb.-ft. @ 3,000
Available Max Towing: 12,700
Available Max Payload: 2,120

Congrats on the truck.

The 12,700 is your trucks towing limit. That does not include the weight of your truck. That's trailer only. That is what your truck can tow. I don't know if you got those numbers from a towing chart or the Ford website but the towing charts are generalizations. Ford like Ram has it where you can look up your exact numbers using your vin on their website. That's the best way to get your specific numbers for your specific truck with the options that you have. Also remember to weigh your truck with a full tank of gas.

Again congrats on the truck.

 

[Tall Timbers]

Congrats on the truck.

The 12,700 is your trucks towing limit. That does not include the weight of your truck. That's trailer only. That is what your truck can tow. I don't know if you got those numbers from a towing chart or the Ford website but the towing charts are generalizations. Ford like Ram has it where you can look up your exact numbers using your vin on their website. That's the best way to get your specific numbers for your specific truck with the options that you have. Also remember to weigh your truck with a full tank of gas.

Again congrats on the truck.

Thanks. That's the number for my truck configuration. Ford used to include these kinds of weight specs on a sheet that would come with the truck. Now you have to go online for almost everything... I like hard copy of some things.

 

[LoudRam]

The easiest thing to do is just include the max tow on the same sticker as the max payload, that way there are no questions. I think GM now does that with their trucks but I'm not sure. The others should follow suit.

The charts don't take into account the options or trim levels of the trucks which play a major role in those final numbers.

Of course when you mentioned weighing your truck, it reminded me that I still have to weigh mine so I can figure out my true payload. My sticker has my payload at 1749 but I added some accessories so that'll cut it a little. Our first camping trip is scheduled for late April.

 

[Tall Timbers]

Of course when you mentioned weighing your truck, it reminded me that I still have to weigh mine so I can figure out my true payload. My sticker has my payload at 1749 but I added some accessories so that'll cut it a little. Our first camping trip is scheduled for late April.

If the house sale goes through as currently scheduled, barring a snow storm I'll be headed down the ALCAN beginning 11 March for my first trip.

 

[Tall Timbers]

I made it to the weigh station after topping off the fuel tank. It was covered with several feet of snow. Closed for the season, I guess. The place gave me the names of two other businesses that can weigh... I'll try one of them soonish. Then I drove to North Pole and back just to put some break in miles on the truck. I let it drive itself for a while... that was pretty interesting. Ford approached driving automation incrementally. My Bronco Sport isn't quite a drive itself car but almost is. The F-150 will drive itself on the freeway system, but the driver has to keep their eyes on the road. If you try napping or reading a book or otherwise become distracted the car/truck will tell you to put your hands back on the steering wheel.

 

[Andy C]

Thanks. That's the number for my truck configuration. Ford used to include these kinds of weight specs on a sheet that would come with the truck. Now you have to go online for almost everything... I like hard copy of some things.

Its not printed on the side of the truck door (by the tire info) on the inside like RAM does?

 

[Andy C]

I made it to the weigh station after topping off the fuel tank. It was covered with several feet of snow. Closed for the season, I guess. The place gave me the names of two other businesses that can weigh... I'll try one of them soonish. Then I drove to North Pole and back just to put some break in miles on the truck. I let it drive itself for a while... that was pretty interesting. Ford approached driving automation incrementally. My Bronco Sport isn't quite a drive itself car but almost is. The F-150 will drive itself on the freeway system, but the driver has to keep their eyes on the road. If you try napping or reading a book or otherwise become distracted the car/truck will tell you to put your hands back on the steering wheel.

When I was towing my fifth wheel, at times, I would forget Im towing it until I looked in my rear view mirror and could only see my trailer.

 

[Tall Timbers]

Its not printed on the side of the truck door (by the tire info) on the inside like RAM does?

It has GVWR of 7350 lbs on the sticker. I didn't even see that the first time I looked at the sticker. It then breaks down the GVWR for each axle. I guess it was the GCWR that I needed, but I had the max trailer weight which is good enough but didn't know it until LoudRam gave a helping hand. My F250s all came with a sheet that kind of spelled everything out... It's amazing to me that a truck as light as this one can tow 12.7 K. Not that I'll ever tow that much.

I've been playing with several settings. There was one place that I thought was an over the speed limit warning. I put it at 10 MPH over. When I got on the freeway and set cruise control to 60, which was the speed limit, the truck after just a little bit sped up on its own to 70 MPH... Guess I need to find that setting and put it to zero. I did find another setting that'll warn me if I'm speeding. I set it to 5 over.

 

[Tall Timbers]

When I was towing my fifth wheel, at times, I would forget Im towing it until I looked in my rear view mirror and could only see my trailer.

That's the way it was with my '99 and '00 Super Duties. The truck didn't care. If the trailer had a V front like my cargo trailer did back then, fuel mileage didn't even decrease. If the trailer had a flat front like my travel trailer did, then I took a fuel mileage hit of about 30%.