The upcoming election

InsuranceGuy

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I know I am in the minority here, but I believe Trump will lose this election. I was listening to a Mark Hitchcock YouTube video from a year ago last night. He mentioned a philosopher from the 1200's who explained why Democracy simply will never work. Once the population realizes they can vote into power those who promise them the most free things from the public treasury, the system will fail and be replaced by a type of dictatorship. I believe the Democrats have, and will continue, to offer "free" stuff to the masses, enough to win this election anyway.

In addition, I believe we are rapidly approaching the Rapture. A Democrat doesn't need to be in office for that, but it seems fitting. Things are not going to suddenly get better before we are taken home and a Democrat in office would continue the rapid deterioration of this Nation.

I don't follow the polls, or even the news anymore. This is just a gut feeling that we were given a 4 year reprieve to repent and turn back to God. As a nation, we failed. Not as individuals, but collectively.

We should still fight the good fight while we can, but those days are coming to an end, in my opinion. Democrats have already proven there is no place for God in their administration.

While spending most of my time in bed, or on the couch, I have looked into all the globalization going on. It is time for that to become more than talk. With contact tracers coming down the pike, how likely is it they are used for more nefarious purposes than to simply track Covid-19?

I recall thinking way back in the 90's that someday the Bible would be viewed as hate speech and possibly banned or limited somehow. We now have the LGBT community who believes the Bible is homophobic and hateful. They carry a lot of weight with the Democrats. Remember when Obama lit up the white house after they were allowed to legally marry? They stole God's promise to mankind in the form of the rainbow as their flag. I believe it may be time
God leaves the USA to her own devices.

I cannot see the USA getting 4 more years when the rest of the world is already beginning to hate Christianity. The one thing we have had going for us is continuing support of Israel. The Democrats will stop that, leaving us with little to look forward to as Christians.

Anyone else think it may be about time for a prophetic leap forward?
 

JSTyler

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You certainly may be correct and I wouldn't have any arguments over the possibilities though I disagree with your final assessment for a few reasons.

1 - The only way I see Trump losing to the current or replacement dem candidate is through election fraud and cheating by the dems. They have nothing to offer aside from the possibility of a continued downward trend into financial ruin.

2 - I'm looking at the solidly blue congressional seats in Wisconsin and California that were just flipped. There were also a couple local guvmint seats in Staunton VA. that just flipped shockingly red. Almost all of the blue strongholds are under extreme restrictive tyranny right now and even with all the "free" money, the recipients are left with practically nothing to do with it. That doesn't rub well against most Americans.

3 - I haven't met or talked to a single Trump supporter that had changed their position but I have talked to a lot of ani-Trumpers that have done a complete 180 in the last year and particularly the last few months. And I know, this is anecdotal at best, but I live in a small red haven amidst a blue landmass. Life requires that I mix it up with a lot of prog-dems and they are teetering.

And either way, whoever God appoints is who God appoints. His will be done. I do tend to believe that your point about a prophetic leap forward is right on target whether Trump wins or loses. He wins and the globalists/satanists up their evil games, he loses and the globalists/satanists up their evil games.

If we didn't know how it all ends this would be one scary ride. It still may get pretty hairy for us Christ followers but I wouldn't miss it for anything but heaven right now. It. Will. Be. Interesting.
 

Saved and Waiting

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Agee with you and will even go farther with what I believe. I think the Church will be raptured before the next Presidential election, the democrats will take a shallow and short reign, and then the NWO will be in charge. The world has fallen off the cliff and there's no way but a continual downward spiral. I believe we will be watching Israel and the whole Middle East in the next few months. in a terrible war and we will see if Psalms 83 speaks of a war or not and we may see Damascus completely obliterated and then...Ezekiel 38/39 and the antichrist coming to "save the world". I'm ready to go home!!
 

Cindy S.

When he comes, will he find faith? Luke 18:8
Agee with you and will even go farther with what I believe. I think the Church will be raptured before the next Presidential election, the democrats will take a shallow and short reign, and then the NWO will be in charge. The world has fallen off the cliff and there's no way but a continual downward spiral. I believe we will be watching Israel and the whole Middle East in the next few months. in a terrible war and we will see if Psalms 83 speaks of a war or not and we may see Damascus completely obliterated and then...Ezekiel 38/39 and the antichrist coming to "save the world". I'm ready to go home!!
Did you see God's melon sized hail this week? I think, hope, pray we are raptured before the next election, too. Maybe for Trump to lose, his voter base will have to depart.
 

Saved and Waiting

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Did you see God's melon sized hail this week? I think, hope, pray we are raptured before the next election, too. Maybe for Trump to lose, his voter base will have to depart.

no melon sized hail....yet...but being in Iowa one never knows :lol I don't know how to explain it, but the weather here has been strange. It's oppressive though not humid...gray skies and a weird quiet at times. Iowa has been opening up more with people getting out and about....most I see are keeping their distance from others...less and less are wearing masks except in the grocery stores. Starting to see more smiles and an uplift in personalities as people are let out of their isolation. If we are here for the election, I will vote for President Trump but there is no doubt in my mind there will be country-wide cheating with the ballots and the left will do anything to take the election.....anything. Nothing at all surprises me anymore honestly and now it's just a watch God and see what HE does.
 

ByGod'sGrace

under His wings - Psalm 91:4
I have this feeling, too, that Trump will not win the next election, but it is just a hunch in my gut. The days are definitely getting harder and darker. We can see the growing evil, like tendrils squeezing everything. I try to keep a positive attitude for what God is calling me to do during this time, and every day I hope is the day we hear the trumpet.
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
The coming election is certainly going to be interesting and quite important. The two choices really aren't republican or democrat, but rule of law and freedom against oppression and tyranny. I think the election could go either way because I just don't know what percentage of our voting population is completely deluded... you'd have to be to vote for almost any demoncrat these days... I'm more optimistic about a Trump win because I want to believe that the majority still have functioning brains, so in arguments, I guess that's the way I'll lean. Lord, please give us 4 more years of President Trump, Your will be done. :pray
 

penbrat

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I don't think he will win, if we are still here, because I think the dems will stop at NOTHING to get him out of office. I don't even want to imagine what they have up their dirty little sleeves. Of course, if it is God's will, Mr. Trump will serve for 4 more years.....but I feel like he has pretty much served the purpose God put him in office for (to expose the darkness and corruption around him).
 

RonJohnSilver

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I noticed an article yesterday that said some eastern school ran a computer program which showed Trump getting decidedly beaten or trumped. It said that he would have no more that 35% support. Upon reading it further, though, a couple of things jumped out. First, it was linked to a CNN newsite, so clearly it going to be biased. Second, it was from an eastern university so again, likely biased. Third, the program made the assumption that the economy would be Trumps downfall. They made the assumption that his base would abandon him because of the unemployment, etc. What they didn't say, or wasn't recorded, was that all of this is because of China and their virus and that, if not for the virus, the economy/employment would be humming along very nicely as it was. The authors apparently don't think Americans can look past the numbers for the actual reason. They also failed to mention the hollow-headed imbecile that is the current opposition candidate. That said, it is, of course, possible that Trump could lose. As in 2016, though, I, and many others, will pray for him to win massively. in fact, I pray for the Democrats to lose every single election possible. I pray that 2020 will go down in history as the biggest Democratic defeat in the history of American politics. I pray that every Democrat candidate will lose, no victories, not one, in any state, at any level. Total 100% defeat. I pray that 2020 marks the practical end of the Democratic Party. I pray that Trump, flawed though he is, takes no prisoners.
 

DanLMP

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As in 2016, though, I, and many others, will pray for him to win massively. in fact, I pray for the Democrats to lose every single election possible. I pray that 2020 will go down in history as the biggest Democratic defeat in the history of American politics. I pray that every Democrat candidate will lose, no victories, not one, in any state, at any level. Total 100% defeat. I pray that 2020 marks the practical end of the Democratic Party.

And then we all go Home on November 4 and the Democrats get it all anyway? ;)
 

ByGod'sGrace

under His wings - Psalm 91:4
Ugh, I just imagine if Whitmer is the VP and then she becomes President (because Biden goes "bye"-then) with Pelosi as Speaker of the House....ehhhh.

Edited to say: I know that is a worst case scenario, but it would make sense in that if those two women had the mouthpiece and Commander in Chief power, they would totally turn their backs on Israel. It makes my stomach hurt just thinking about it. It is hard to remain hopeful when I know the worse it gets, the closer we are to going home. On one hand, I want the tide of evil to be held back, and on the other hand, I want the tide of evil to just do its rotten thing. Most of my prayers now are just me not quite knowing what words to say, so I feel like I'm mostly just praying, "*sigh* crying sounds *ugh* Your will be done!"
 
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Cindy S.

When he comes, will he find faith? Luke 18:8
I noticed an article yesterday that said some eastern school ran a computer program which showed Trump getting decidedly beaten or trumped. It said that he would have no more that 35% support. Upon reading it further, though, a couple of things jumped out. First, it was linked to a CNN newsite, so clearly it going to be biased. Second, it was from an eastern university so again, likely biased. Third, the program made the assumption that the economy would be Trumps downfall. They made the assumption that his base would abandon him because of the unemployment, etc. What they didn't say, or wasn't recorded, was that all of this is because of China and their virus and that, if not for the virus, the economy/employment would be humming along very nicely as it was. The authors apparently don't think Americans can look past the numbers for the actual reason. They also failed to mention the hollow-headed imbecile that is the current opposition candidate. That said, it is, of course, possible that Trump could lose. As in 2016, though, I, and many others, will pray for him to win massively. in fact, I pray for the Democrats to lose every single election possible. I pray that 2020 will go down in history as the biggest Democratic defeat in the history of American politics. I pray that every Democrat candidate will lose, no victories, not one, in any state, at any level. Total 100% defeat. I pray that 2020 marks the practical end of the Democratic Party. I pray that Trump, flawed though he is, takes no prisoners.
Michigan Democrats, union members, might remember who put them to work making ventilators when car production was shut down. Maybe university employees who are laid off will remember the democratic governor who would not open their state but most likely they will blame Trump for the virus.
 

athenasius

Well-Known Member
I know I am in the minority here, but I believe Trump will lose this election. I was listening to a Mark Hitchcock YouTube video from a year ago last night. He mentioned a philosopher from the 1200's who explained why Democracy simply will never work. Once the population realizes they can vote into power those who promise them the most free things from the public treasury, the system will fail and be replaced by a type of dictatorship. I believe the Democrats have, and will continue, to offer "free" stuff to the masses, enough to win this election anyway.

In addition, I believe we are rapidly approaching the Rapture. A Democrat doesn't need to be in office for that, but it seems fitting. Things are not going to suddenly get better before we are taken home and a Democrat in office would continue the rapid deterioration of this Nation.

I don't follow the polls, or even the news anymore. This is just a gut feeling that we were given a 4 year reprieve to repent and turn back to God. As a nation, we failed. Not as individuals, but collectively.

We should still fight the good fight while we can, but those days are coming to an end, in my opinion. Democrats have already proven there is no place for God in their administration.

While spending most of my time in bed, or on the couch, I have looked into all the globalization going on. It is time for that to become more than talk. With contact tracers coming down the pike, how likely is it they are used for more nefarious purposes than to simply track Covid-19?

I recall thinking way back in the 90's that someday the Bible would be viewed as hate speech and possibly banned or limited somehow. We now have the LGBT community who believes the Bible is homophobic and hateful. They carry a lot of weight with the Democrats. Remember when Obama lit up the white house after they were allowed to legally marry? They stole God's promise to mankind in the form of the rainbow as their flag. I believe it may be time
God leaves the USA to her own devices.

I cannot see the USA getting 4 more years when the rest of the world is already beginning to hate Christianity. The one thing we have had going for us is continuing support of Israel. The Democrats will stop that, leaving us with little to look forward to as Christians.

Anyone else think it may be about time for a prophetic leap forward?
I've been thinking on this lately.

I hope if we stay for another few years before the Rapture, that we (I'm speaking as a conservative thinking Christian Canadian looking out at the world in general) see another term for your President Trump.

He is keeping the globalists on the defensive, as well as major players like China and Russia who will not hesitate to go in for the kill when and where they sense weakness.

Under his watch Israel has been strengthened, and encouraged, Russia and Iran have continued to move into Syria which they were emboldened to do under Obama, and both those situations speak to the upcoming Ezekiel 38&39 war that is coming as well as the Isaiah 17 Destruction of Damascus.

He is acting like a preservative and a restraint-- which makes me think that it's the Holy Spirit moving thru him, whether or not he is saved (for the record, I think he might well be saved, even if a young Christian).

But God's time table is not ours. We might want something, but God's timing might say no, it's time to allow a Pandemic virus, or a Hitler but then again, God might bless thru a Lord Balfour, a President Truman.

We have been blessed to have had this man in place for the last 3.5 years. I hope he will be re elected for another 4 year term.

BUT

Evil is champing at the bit to be let loose to do it's worst. We see election fraud that has had 4 years to set their plans in place to destroy the results of a free and fair election. At some point God will give them the desires of their evil hearts.

I pray for your President's protection from assassination. It's been done before in your history, and I rarely bring it up, but it's worth remembering in your prayers-- to pray for his protection.

And his health. He is a healthy and vigourous man, but we are not immortal in these frail bodies of ours.

Vice President Pence is a good man, but not Trump's equal in playing hardball. Part of Trump's success comes from being unpredictable and willing to do the unthinkable such as launching missiles in Syria while serving dessert to the leader of China. I have never stopped laughing in delight at that particular triumph of Trump and the alarm, respect and dismay that China displayed after that.

Much of this question of yours hinges on God's timing, not on the enemy's ability to cause disease or inspire an assassin or "fix" an election. The enemy would if he could but God is restraining such things FOR NOW!

If Trump doesn't win the election, or is in some way removed from office, I would expect the persecution of Christians here in the "west" to begin with a vengeance.

And that may well be part of the end of the church age,

-----BUT there's that letter to Laodicea that makes me think the final stage of the church before the church age is over and the Rapture takes us up-- is that of a church growing ever more complacent, rich, pleased with itself and in need of "nothing".

That's not the state of the church in the Islamic countries, or the African continent, nor in China or India where they struggle to survive. It is the state of the church in the West.

So if I had to say what I think-- while I worry and wonder about assassination attempts, about a resurgent virus in the fall, with mail in ballots and a failing economy putting the election in peril--- and I wonder about the Christians who elected him, turning against him if he seems to be too much in the globalist's camp where the virus is concerned---

----I think if we see do him re elected, the next 4 years will be rough and bumpy. Sort of like the last few months, only more so.

Till the Lord Raptures us. Whenever that happens. We won't know till we go.

I also think we will see more of the Laodicean slide into the pigsty. More of an attack on the Bible itself, the Pre Trib Rapture doctrine, the teaching of Creation, Noah's Flood, and prophetic fulfillment.

The "woke" church of Laodicea will continue to congratulate themselves on not getting stuck in those theological mine fields -- and carry on sniping at their brethren of Philadelphia who still believe the WHOLE BIBLE, the suffering church of Smyrna will continue to endure while Laodicea ignores them, and so on till the Rapture.

Because of 2 Peter 3:3-9 I think if God wills, and there's more time before the Rapture it will look like that.

And those scoffers are mostly inside the church, because the world doesn't much care anymore that we believe in Creation, the Fall, the Flood, the Rapture and the Return of Christ to take His place on His Throne to rule over the whole earth in the Millennium and into Eternity. It's from WITHIN the church that the attacks on these vital doctrines come fiercest and worst. Including Bible versions that remove sections dealing with homosexuality, removing Israel, revising what the Bible says to make it reflect their sins and perversions.

2 Peter 3: 3-9 New International Version (NIV)
3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.

4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.”

5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water.

6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed.

7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
 
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