The "Unforgivable Sin": What to do if you think you have committed it

Robert

Well-Known Member
Recently, I have seen on RR and RF christians who believe that they have committed the "Unforgivable Sin," and end up going through a nightmare of panic, horror, agony, heartbreak, sleepless nights, and utter despair. They feel they have lost their salvation, and they are doomed; that God cannot forgive them and that they are now bound for the Lake of Fire.

If you are in that position right now; PLEASE read the following article carefully. It's going to be a bit long, but trust me: you'll be happy you did.

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I know you are scared right now; You read Hebrews 10:26-31 and think that because you willfully went along with a sin, that you have lost your salvation. Or a blasphemous thought about the Holy Spirit entered your mind and you distinctly remember Matthew 12:31-32. You might be frightened because you backslid, and you came across 2 Peter 2:20-22 and are now in despair over it.

First of all: DO NOT PANIC. We will take you through this step by step; for right now, know that God has NOT abandoned you, nor disowned you:

"Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee." (Hebrews 13:5, KJV, emphasis mine)

"My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand." (John 10:28-29, NIV)


Pay special attention to John 10:28-29:" NO ONE can snatch them". YOU, being "SOMEONE", cannot remove yourself from God's hand accidentally. And no one else can remove you either.

"The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9, NIV, emphasis mine)


God IS NOT looking for a way to "kick you out of the program", or to boot you into hell. If He sent his son to die for us on the cross, does that mean he's then going to turn around and drop-kick us into hell at the slightest whim?

No.

But you are asking yourself:"what about those verses I read? What about what they say? Doesn't that mean I've lost my salvation?" Once again, NO, And I'll explain why.

Let's take these one by one, and I'll show you what they mean:

Matthew 12:31-32:

" And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. " (NIV)

You see those verses, and assume it's a slam dunk: you are DONE.

Not quite.

Read the WHOLE section:

"When they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. All the people were astonished and said, “Could this be the Son of David?” But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebub, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.” Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 2If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.“Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man’s house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can rob his house. “He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."

In reading this, we see that the Pharisees called Jesus "Beelzebub"; essentially, they were saying his power was of the devil. The Pharisees knew full well who Jesus was and what he was doing, but they rejected him and his message entirely, preferring their own self righteousness. Now, how do you blaspheme a spirit?

Jesus gives us that answer: the same manner as you would worship God:

"God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth" -John 4:24, NIV

If the Holy Spirit is God, and God must be worshipped in spirit, then the only way to blaspheme the Holy Spirit is IN SPIRIT. And that means your HEART.

The Pharisees had PERMANENTLY hardened their hearts to Jesus' message, and thus the conviction of the Holy Spirit. Because of this, they had committed the unforgivable sin, and they could have cared less. This is why if you are scared you committed it, then you HAVEN'T: because the person who commits the unforgivable sin DOESN'T CARE THAT THEY DID!!!

2 Peter 2:20-22:

"If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.” (NIV)


Once again, we need to read the WHOLE passage:

"These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud."

If you read the whole chapter until verse 22 and pay attention to WHOM the chapter is talking about, it is :"But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you." (2 Peter 2:1) it is referring to false teachers who are deliberately using scripture to lead people astray. Reading the beginning of the chapter even further, it is speaking of THEIR destruction:

"But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. " (2 Peter 2:1-3 NIV)

We HAVE to be careful that we don't "cherry pick" verses, or we lose much of the meaning, and in this case, DANGEROUSLY so. God wasn't talking about his children in this passage, but those wolves in sheep's clothing, whom know the truth yet lead astray those that seek the Lord. God is promising them that they will dearly wish they hadn't. (See Matthew 18:6-7 for further details.)

Hebrews 6:4-6:


"It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, 6if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. " (NIV)

Once again, we need to read the WHOLE passage for CONTEXT:

"Wherefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God, instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. And God permitting, we will do so. It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned. Even though we speak like this, dear friends, we are confident of better things in your case—things that accompany salvation. God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them. We want each of you to show this same diligence to the very end, in order to make your hope sure. We do not want you to become lazy, but to imitate those who through faith and patience inherit what has been promised."


The "falling away" mentioned here" is a deliberate, final renouncement of Christ. This is what the Pharisees did in Matthew 12:31-32. Believers not only TASTE the goodness of the word of God, THEY DRINK IT IN. There is a major difference between those that simply sample what god has offered, and those that partake in FULL. The humbled sinner who is begging for mercy is a FAR CRY from this, and is NOT subject to these verses. If you're scared you have committed the unforgivable sin by backsliding, you haven't. This is talking about a complete "about face" that no one who is scared they have committed this sin could ever do.


Hebrews 10:26-31:

"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (NIV)

These verses, along with Matthew 12:31-32, seem to be the MOTHER of all "unforgivable sin" misunderstandings. By now you'll notice a common theme: deliberate, wholehearted rejection of the Lord and his mercy. All sin is done essentially willfully; that being said, this is a deliberate "in your face" to the Lord. You would be telling him in this that you no longer want anything to do with him for ALL ETERNITY. These are people who are committing an ultimate act of rejection against the Lord: they know the truth, yet they defiantly continue on in their SIN, and relish it. they have NO SORROW.

And you do have sorrow; this means these verses ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.


1 John 5:16

"If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that." (NIV)

Our final example here is equally misunderstood. Many assume that because it speaks of a 'brother" and "a sin unto death", that it means a brother in Christ can commit the unforgivable sin. If we look at the example of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5, God does punish with death when he deems it appropriate. But taking it in the case of the Unforgivable Sin, the clue here is that we are told not to pray for it. Just as God cannot grant mercy for someone who has utterly and finally rejected him, it wouldn't so us any good to pray for such a person. Once a person's heart has turned to solid rock as it were, they are set.


Putting it all together:


I think by now, you have seen the common thread that binds all these verses together a deliberate, final, willful rejection of the lord's mercy and grace. And the reason why that, if you are afraid that you have committed the unforgivable sin, that you haven't. Simply put: the reason the unforgivable sin is unforgivable is BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO COMMITS IT DOESN'T WANT FORGIVENESS!!!

So, if you are agonizing over this, STOP RIGHT NOW. NONE of the previously examined verses are referring to you; God is talking about those that have "flipped him off" and want nothing more to do with him. If you WANT forgiveness, you are BY NO MEANS BEYOND IT.

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. " (1 John 1:9, NIV)

" My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. " (1 John 2:1, NIV)


Right now, Go to the Lord in prayer. Ignore the voice in your head that's telling you you can't. Don't pay that any heed; that's the Adversary trying to keep you down and defeated.. Just go to God the Father, confess your sin to him and ask him to forgive you. He's not going to get mad at you, nor will he throw you out:

" All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day." (John 6: 37-39, KJV)

If you happen to be reading this and are unsaved, this also applies to you; there is NO sin that, if you truly want to turn from it and turn to God through his son Jesus Christ, cannot be forgiven.

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. " (Romans 10:9-13, KJV)


I apologize for this being so long, but I had quite a bit to say, I pray that this message reaches those that are frightened, and offers them some comfort and hope. I have been there, and i have felt the horror and dread of this.

I bid you peace.

YBIC,

-Robert
 
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Thank you for posting this! I know that panic all too well; it really is a nightmare when you think you have committed this sin, I remember eagerly awaiting judgment because it felt so terrible. I pray this article helps many. :pray:
 

Kathy_57

Well-Known Member
Robert, once again thank you for your post. I know for myself, I have been in that place in my life questioning if I had committed the unpardonable sin and wondered if the Lord was done with me......It is a scarey place to be. I cannot say that I feel His presence in my life as so many of you here have experienced but I just keep standing on what The Word says and not my feelings. They are fickle at the best of times.

Thank you, for allowing the Lord use here at RR and RF ~ This is a ministry in itself and you are a blessing to this gal and I am sure I can confidently say for many others here on the board, as well.
 

JC1949

Well-Known Member
Recently, I have seen on RR and RF christians who believe that they have committed the "Unforgivable Sin," and end up going through a nightmare of panic, horror, agony, heartbreak, sleepless nights, and utter despair. They feel they have lost their salvation, and they are doomed; that God cannot forgive them and that they are now bound for the Lake of Fire.

If you are in that position right now; PLEASE read the following article carefully. It's going to be a bit long, but trust me: you'll be happy you did.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I know you are scared right now; You read Hebrews 10:26-31 and think that because you willfully went along with a sin, that you have lost your salvation. Or a blasphemous thought about the Holy Spirit entered your mind and you distinctly remember Matthew 12:31-32. You might be frightened because you backslid, and you came across 2 Peter 2:20-22 and are now in despair over it.

First of all: DO NOT PANIC. We will take you through this step by step; for right now, know that God has NOT abandoned you, nor disowned you:

"Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee." (Hebrews 13:5, KJV, emphasis mine)

"My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand." (John 10:28-29, NIV)


Pay special attention to John 10:28-29:" NO ONE can snatch them". YOU, being "SOMEONE", cannot remove yourself from God's hand. And no one else can remove you either.

"The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9, NIV, emphasis mine)


God IS NOT looking for a way to "kick you out of the program", or to boot you into hell. If He sent his son to die for us on the cross, does that mean he's then going to turn around and drop-kick us into hell at the slightest whim?

No.

But you are asking yourself:"what about those verses I read? What about what they say? Doesn't that mean I've lost my salvation?" Once again, NO, And I'll explain why.

Let's take these one by one, and I'll show you what they mean:

Matthew 12:31-32:

" And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. " (NIV)

You see those verses, and assume it's a slam dunk: you are DONE.

Not quite.

Read the WHOLE section:

"When they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. All the people were astonished and said, “Could this be the Son of David?” But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebub, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.” Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 2If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.“Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man’s house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can rob his house. “He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."

In reading this, we see that the Pharisees called Jesus "Beelzebub"; essentially, they were saying his power was of the devil. The Pharisees knew full well who Jesus was and what he was doing, but they rejected him and his message entirely, preferring their own self righteousness. Now, how do you blaspheme a spirit?

Jesus gives us that answer: the same manner as you would worship God:

"God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth" -John 4:24, NIV

If the Holy Spirit is God, and God must be worshipped in spirit, then the only way to blaspheme the Holy Spirit is IN SPIRIT. And that means your HEART.

The Pharisees had PERMANENTLY hardened their hearts to Jesus' message, and thus the conviction of the Holy Spirit. Because of this, they had committed the unforgivable sin, and they could have cared less. This is why if you are scared you committed it, then you HAVEN'T: because the person who commits the unforgivable sin DOESN'T CARE THAT THEY DID!!!

2 Peter 2:20-22:

"If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.” (NIV)


Once again, we need to read the WHOLE passage:

"These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud."

If you read the whole chapter until verse 22 and pay attention to WHOM the chapter is talking about, it is :"But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you." (2 Peter 2:1) it is referring to false teachers who are deliberately using scripture to lead people astray. Reading the beginning of the chapter even further, it is speaking of THEIR destruction:

"But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. " (2 Peter 2:1-3 NIV)

We HAVE to be careful that we don't "cherry pick" verses, or we lose much of the meaning, and in this case, DANGEROUSLY so. God wasn't talking about his children in this passage, but those wolves in sheep's clothing, whom know the truth yet lead astray those that seek the Lord. God is promising them that they will dearly wish they hadn't. (See Matthew 18:6-7 for further details.)

Hebrews 6:4-6:


"It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, 6if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. " (NIV)

Once again, we need to read the WHOLE passage for CONTEXT:

"Wherefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God, instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. And God permitting, we will do so. It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned. Even though we speak like this, dear friends, we are confident of better things in your case—things that accompany salvation. God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them. We want each of you to show this same diligence to the very end, in order to make your hope sure. We do not want you to become lazy, but to imitate those who through faith and patience inherit what has been promised."


The "falling away" mentioned here" is a deliberate, final renouncement of Christ. This is what the Pharisees did in Matthew 12:31-32. Believers not only TASTE the goodness of the word of God, THEY DRINK IT IN. There is a major difference between those that simply sample what god has offered, and those that partake in FULL. The humbled sinner who is begging for mercy is a FAR CRY from this, and is NOT subject to these verses. If you're scared you have committed the unforgivable sin by backsliding, you haven't. This is talking about a complete "about face" that no one who is scared they have committed this sin could ever do.


Hebrews 10:26-31:

"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (NIV)

These verses, along with Matthew 12:31-32, seem to be the MOTHER of all "unforgivable sin" misunderstandings. By now you'll notice a common theme: deliberate, wholehearted rejection of the Lord and his mercy. All sin is done essentially willfully; that being said, this is a deliberate "in your face" to the Lord. You would be telling him in this that you no longer want anything to do with him for ALL ETERNITY. These are people who are committing an ultimate act of rejection against the Lord: they know the truth, yet they defiantly continue on in their SIN, and relish it. they have NO SORROW.

And you do have sorrow; this means these verses ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.


1 John 5:16

"If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that." (NIV)

Our final example here is equally misunderstood. Many assume that because it speaks of a 'brother" and "a sin unto death", that it means a brother in Christ can commit the unforgivable sin. If we look at the example of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5, God does punish with death when he deems it appropriate. But taking it in the case of the Unforgivable Sin, the clue here is that we are told not to pray for it. Just as God cannot grant mercy for someone who has utterly and finally rejected him, it wouldn't so us any good to pray for such a person. Once a person's heart has turned to solid rock as it were, they are set.


Putting it all together:


I think by now, you have seen the common thread that binds all these verses together a deliberate, final, willful rejection of the lord's mercy and grace. And the reason why that, if you are afraid that you have committed the unforgivable sin, that you haven't. Simply put: the reason the unforgivable sin is unforgivable is BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO COMMITS IT DOESN'T"T WANT FORGIVENESS!!!

So, if you are agonizing over this, STOP RIGHT NOW. NONE of the previously examined verses are referring to you; God is talking about those that have "flipped him off" and want nothing more to do with him. If you WANT forgiveness, you are BY NO MEANS BEYOND IT.

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. " (1 John 1:9, NIV)

" My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. " (1 John 2:1, NIV)


Right now, Go to the Lord in prayer. Ignore the voice in your head that's telling you you can't. Don't pay that any heed; that's the Adversary trying to keep you down and defeated.. Just go to God the Father, confess your sin to him and ask him to forgive you. He's not going to get mad at you, nor will he throw you out:

" All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day." (John 6: 37-39, KJV)

If you happen to be reading this and are unsaved, this also applies to you; there is NO sin that, if you truly want to turn from it and turn to God through his son Jesus Christ, cannot be forgiven.

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. " (Romans 10:9-13, KJV)


I apologize for this being so long, but I had quite a bit to say, I pray that this message reaches those that are frightened, and offers them some comfort and hope. I have been there, and i have felt the horror and dread of this.

I bid you peace.

YBIC,

-Robert
GOOD STUFF ROB! who cares if it is long? we waste so much time reading useless news or watching idiotic movies,it is WORTHWHILE read an article like this!
THANK YOU!:thumbup:thumbup
 

mattfivefour

Administrator
Staff member
Blessings, brother. Awesome post! Once again the Lord has ministered to hearts through you. Praise His wonderful Name! May He continue to work in you and use you. What He is making you into, more and more, is a real blessing to your brothers and sisters.
 

Robert

Well-Known Member
Thanks Matt. I'm just happy to be of service to my brothers and sisters here. I've seen recently too many who have come in scared out of their wits, horrified that they are going to go to hell, and the obvious claw marks of old Splithoof all over their battered minds. My fervent prayer is that what was written does something to help those whom Satan is trying to pull this extremely dirty trick on.
 

myinnuendo999

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what a wonderful way you serve the body of Christ and show the heart of Jesus to your sisters and brothers as well as non-believers. Thank you for how you serve Jesus most of all with a heart that desires others who are unsure to be built up in God's most holy love...:thumbup

Jesus said, "you shall know the TRUTH and the truth shall set you free"
 

The Aramaic Man

Active Member
Recently, I have seen on RR and RF christians who believe that they have committed the "Unforgivable Sin," and end up going through a nightmare of panic, horror, agony, heartbreak, sleepless nights, and utter despair. They feel they have lost their salvation, and they are doomed; that God cannot forgive them and that they are now bound for the Lake of Fire.

If you are in that position right now; PLEASE read the following article carefully. It's going to be a bit long, but trust me: you'll be happy you did.

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I know you are scared right now; You read Hebrews 10:26-31 and think that because you willfully went along with a sin, that you have lost your salvation. Or a blasphemous thought about the Holy Spirit entered your mind and you distinctly remember Matthew 12:31-32. You might be frightened because you backslid, and you came across 2 Peter 2:20-22 and are now in despair over it.

First of all: DO NOT PANIC. We will take you through this step by step; for right now, know that God has NOT abandoned you, nor disowned you:

"Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee." (Hebrews 13:5, KJV, emphasis mine)

"My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand." (John 10:28-29, NIV)


Pay special attention to John 10:28-29:" NO ONE can snatch them". YOU, being "SOMEONE", cannot remove yourself from God's hand. And no one else can remove you either.

"The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." (2 Peter 3:9, NIV, emphasis mine)


God IS NOT looking for a way to "kick you out of the program", or to boot you into hell. If He sent his son to die for us on the cross, does that mean he's then going to turn around and drop-kick us into hell at the slightest whim?

No.

But you are asking yourself:"what about those verses I read? What about what they say? Doesn't that mean I've lost my salvation?" Once again, NO, And I'll explain why.

Let's take these one by one, and I'll show you what they mean:

Matthew 12:31-32:

" And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. " (NIV)

You see those verses, and assume it's a slam dunk: you are DONE.

Not quite.

Read the WHOLE section:

"When they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. All the people were astonished and said, “Could this be the Son of David?” But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebub, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.” Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 2If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.“Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man’s house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can rob his house. “He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."

In reading this, we see that the Pharisees called Jesus "Beelzebub"; essentially, they were saying his power was of the devil. The Pharisees knew full well who Jesus was and what he was doing, but they rejected him and his message entirely, preferring their own self righteousness. Now, how do you blaspheme a spirit?

Jesus gives us that answer: the same manner as you would worship God:

"God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth" -John 4:24, NIV

If the Holy Spirit is God, and God must be worshipped in spirit, then the only way to blaspheme the Holy Spirit is IN SPIRIT. And that means your HEART.

The Pharisees had PERMANENTLY hardened their hearts to Jesus' message, and thus the conviction of the Holy Spirit. Because of this, they had committed the unforgivable sin, and they could have cared less. This is why if you are scared you committed it, then you HAVEN'T: because the person who commits the unforgivable sin DOESN'T CARE THAT THEY DID!!!

2 Peter 2:20-22:

"If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.” (NIV)


Once again, we need to read the WHOLE passage:

"These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud."

If you read the whole chapter until verse 22 and pay attention to WHOM the chapter is talking about, it is :"But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you." (2 Peter 2:1) it is referring to false teachers who are deliberately using scripture to lead people astray. Reading the beginning of the chapter even further, it is speaking of THEIR destruction:

"But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. " (2 Peter 2:1-3 NIV)

We HAVE to be careful that we don't "cherry pick" verses, or we lose much of the meaning, and in this case, DANGEROUSLY so. God wasn't talking about his children in this passage, but those wolves in sheep's clothing, whom know the truth yet lead astray those that seek the Lord. God is promising them that they will dearly wish they hadn't. (See Matthew 18:6-7 for further details.)

Hebrews 6:4-6:


"It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, 6if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. " (NIV)

Once again, we need to read the WHOLE passage for CONTEXT:

"Wherefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God, instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment. And God permitting, we will do so. It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace. Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned. Even though we speak like this, dear friends, we are confident of better things in your case—things that accompany salvation. God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them. We want each of you to show this same diligence to the very end, in order to make your hope sure. We do not want you to become lazy, but to imitate those who through faith and patience inherit what has been promised."


The "falling away" mentioned here" is a deliberate, final renouncement of Christ. This is what the Pharisees did in Matthew 12:31-32. Believers not only TASTE the goodness of the word of God, THEY DRINK IT IN. There is a major difference between those that simply sample what god has offered, and those that partake in FULL. The humbled sinner who is begging for mercy is a FAR CRY from this, and is NOT subject to these verses. If you're scared you have committed the unforgivable sin by backsliding, you haven't. This is talking about a complete "about face" that no one who is scared they have committed this sin could ever do.


Hebrews 10:26-31:

"If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." (NIV)

These verses, along with Matthew 12:31-32, seem to be the MOTHER of all "unforgivable sin" misunderstandings. By now you'll notice a common theme: deliberate, wholehearted rejection of the Lord and his mercy. All sin is done essentially willfully; that being said, this is a deliberate "in your face" to the Lord. You would be telling him in this that you no longer want anything to do with him for ALL ETERNITY. These are people who are committing an ultimate act of rejection against the Lord: they know the truth, yet they defiantly continue on in their SIN, and relish it. they have NO SORROW.

And you do have sorrow; this means these verses ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU.


1 John 5:16

"If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that." (NIV)

Our final example here is equally misunderstood. Many assume that because it speaks of a 'brother" and "a sin unto death", that it means a brother in Christ can commit the unforgivable sin. If we look at the example of Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5, God does punish with death when he deems it appropriate. But taking it in the case of the Unforgivable Sin, the clue here is that we are told not to pray for it. Just as God cannot grant mercy for someone who has utterly and finally rejected him, it wouldn't so us any good to pray for such a person. Once a person's heart has turned to solid rock as it were, they are set.


Putting it all together:


I think by now, you have seen the common thread that binds all these verses together a deliberate, final, willful rejection of the lord's mercy and grace. And the reason why that, if you are afraid that you have committed the unforgivable sin, that you haven't. Simply put: the reason the unforgivable sin is unforgivable is BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO COMMITS IT DOESN'T"T WANT FORGIVENESS!!!

So, if you are agonizing over this, STOP RIGHT NOW. NONE of the previously examined verses are referring to you; God is talking about those that have "flipped him off" and want nothing more to do with him. If you WANT forgiveness, you are BY NO MEANS BEYOND IT.

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. " (1 John 1:9, NIV)

" My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. " (1 John 2:1, NIV)


Right now, Go to the Lord in prayer. Ignore the voice in your head that's telling you you can't. Don't pay that any heed; that's the Adversary trying to keep you down and defeated.. Just go to God the Father, confess your sin to him and ask him to forgive you. He's not going to get mad at you, nor will he throw you out:

" All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day." (John 6: 37-39, KJV)

If you happen to be reading this and are unsaved, this also applies to you; there is NO sin that, if you truly want to turn from it and turn to God through his son Jesus Christ, cannot be forgiven.

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. " (Romans 10:9-13, KJV)


I apologize for this being so long, but I had quite a bit to say, I pray that this message reaches those that are frightened, and offers them some comfort and hope. I have been there, and i have felt the horror and dread of this.

I bid you peace.

YBIC,

-Robert

Robert, thanks for the article!:hat:
I too, I though I committed the unforgivable sin and I felt separated from God . I was waiting for my judgment and hell. I have read the same verses you posted and I passed the test. :lol:
because this is a test from the devil to separate us from God and our lord, I feel my faith has strengthen.

God bless you!:hat:
 

Shoshi

Member
Brilliant reply, Robert! Many thanks.

There are far too many Christians about, who should know better in my opinion, who stir up trouble by telling others that they can lose their salvation - they always take "those" verses out of context and suggest it's "us" that's judged rather than our works! (When a farmer grades eggs for size and quality, and rejects some of them, he's not judging and rejecting the chickens!!) I know such a man - he's really a mature believer and I've learnt a lot from him, but he's got a total blind spot over this issue.

The worst of it is that if you believe you can lose your salvation, you are limiting God's grace. OK, it's sufficient to save you in the first place, but not sufficient to keep you saved? What sort of a God says he's done everything to save you, and your works are useless to do it, and then says, "But you've got to do all your best works to KEEP being saved! Put a foot wrong, and I'll send you to hell! Repent before you die and you'll be OK till the next time you sin. Just be careful you don't die before you get the chance to repent!" Doesn't make sense to me.

I've always considered the unforgiveable sin to be what Jesus was talking about when He said "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." (John 3:18). The Holy Spirit leads us to Jesus, and if we reject His leading, we are rejecting Him and sinning against Him. He is the one who convicts of sin, righteousness and judgement, so if we reject Him, logically we can't be forgiven!

Anyone who has been born again has NOT rejected the Holy Spirit, because if they had, they wouldn't have got born again!

Why are so many Christians so illogical about the Scripture? God is the God of order, and His Word is a wonderful, integrated whole message, perfect in every way, ordered and logical. When you read the beautiful verses Robert quoted, how can there be any doubt about our eternal security? The verses the people quote who believe you can lose your salvation may seem to imply that, but in the light of the verses that are definitely not open to any other interpretation, the other ones must mean something else! They cannot contradict each other.

Shoshi
 

JC1949

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Brilliant reply, Robert! Many thanks.

There are far too many Christians about, who should know better in my opinion, who stir up trouble by telling others that they can lose their salvation - they always take "those" verses out of context and suggest it's "us" that's judged rather than our works! (When a farmer grades eggs for size and quality, and rejects some of them, he's not judging and rejecting the chickens!!) I know such a man - he's really a mature believer and I've learnt a lot from him, but he's got a total blind spot over this issue.

The worst of it is that if you believe you can lose your salvation, you are limiting God's grace. OK, it's sufficient to save you in the first place, but not sufficient to keep you saved? What sort of a God says he's done everything to save you, and your works are useless to do it, and then says, "But you've got to do all your best works to KEEP being saved! Put a foot wrong, and I'll send you to hell! Repent before you die and you'll be OK till the next time you sin. Just be careful you don't die before you get the chance to repent!" Doesn't make sense to me.

I've always considered the unforgiveable sin to be what Jesus was talking about when He said "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." (John 3:18). The Holy Spirit leads us to Jesus, and if we reject His leading, we are rejecting Him and sinning against Him. He is the one who convicts of sin, righteousness and judgement, so if we reject Him, logically we can't be forgiven!

Anyone who has been born again has NOT rejected the Holy Spirit, because if they had, they wouldn't have got born again!

Why are so many Christians so illogical about the Scripture? God is the God of order, and His Word is a wonderful, integrated whole message, perfect in every way, ordered and logical. When you read the beautiful verses Robert quoted, how can there be any doubt about our eternal security? The verses the people quote who believe you can lose your salvation may seem to imply that, but in the light of the verses that are definitely not open to any other interpretation, the other ones must mean something else! They cannot contradict each other.

Shoshi
CHEER UP with:

Romans 8

1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

18For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

19For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

20For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

21Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

22For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

23And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

24For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

25But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

26Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

27And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

28And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

31What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

32He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.AMEN and AMEN!!!!:thumbup
 

Shoshi

Member
Spot on, jesuschangesall!!!:thumbup:thumbup:thumbup What a truly wonderful passage that chapter is! Thank you for sharing it.

Shoshi
 

Robert

Well-Known Member
On RR, where this topic is also posted, someone had made mention about "speaking against" the Holy Spirit, along with the argument that having remorse over committing that sin proves it to be unforgivable. Their posit was that it if you commit this act, no matter what your heart is, that you are all done. They also claim that Jesus never said that sorrow would make it forgivable, and they then quoted Judas' sorrow over his betrayal of Jesus. I won't quote directly due to the board rules, but I ask the Mods' indulgences here because I wish to address points that weren't mentioned in the original article.

Well, to reiterate what I said in reply to that poster: I stand by what I was led to write; either Jesus' blood is sufficient for ALL sins, or it is NOT. And you can speak in your heart and with your actions; does that mean everyone's actions, which in sin speaks against the Holy Spirit, are thus unforgivable?

That would mean all are unforgiven, making Christ's sacrifice pointless, and making the entire gospel a lie.


AND GOD DOES NOT LIE

Additionally, let us take a look at "speaks a word", which is the same idea for both against the son of man and the Holy Ghost...

IN GREEK: εἶπη λόγον- "eipē logon" or " speak word ". Here, the word " logon" means " a word as embodying an idea." It's not just a word, but a thought and a CONCEPT AGAINST the Holy Spirit. In other words, it is setting one's heart and self AGAINST the Holy Spirit and his work, not merely saying something. Remember: God looks at people's hearts. We cannot say "speaks a word against the Son of Man" and not have that same concept of a thought or concept conveyed to"speaking against the Holy Spirit."

Additionally, let me quote from John Wesley's notes on this matter as well:

"Whosoever speaketh against the Son of man - In any other respects: It shall be forgiven him - Upon his true repentance: But whosoever speaketh thus against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven, neither in this world nor in the world to come - This was a proverbial expression among the Jews, for a thing that would never be done. It here means farther, He shall not escape the punishment of it, either in this world, or in the world to come. The judgment of God shall overtake him, both here and hereafter."
- Matthew 12:32 Bible Commentary

And yes, Judas committed suicide. But his sorrow was not godly sorrow; it was a sorrow that his plan backfired and instead of Jesus' kingdom coming as Judas had connived it would, it seemingly was going to be destroyed in one fell swoop, and Judas was to blame. He realized he had messed up, and that he would pay a heavy price for it. So, in fear and despair, he did away with himself. And like Judas, we experience two types of sorrow: one is because we were caught, and the other is because we recognize we wronged God. There is a MAJOR difference, and many folks miss the fact that Paul mentions that there are TWO kinds of sorrow:

"Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing.: For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter. " (2 Corinthians 7:9-11, KJV)

The point about sorrow is that if you are scared that you have committed the unforgivable sin: then you HAVEN'T. The only sin that cannot be forgiven is the sin you don't want forgiveness for, which is what the Pharisees demonstrated in front of Jesus. And I have made the case that Holy Spirit must be blasphemed the same way that God is worshipped: IN SPIRIT.

Also: The Bible says there is A sin unto death, NOT several.

The point of the matter is: If salvation could be lost, all Satan would have to do is trick humans into sinning, then kill them and Christ is defeated. They seem to ignore Ephesians 2:8-9, which clearly state that we are saved by grace an not anything of ourselves, as well as John 10:28-29, which CLEARLY states NO ONE can take us out of Christ's hands, or the Father's hands.
 
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mattfivefour

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This subject ... of sinning deeply after having received the knowledge of the gospel and so being cast away from His Presence forever ... has touched me. I, too, went through a period when I felt all hope was gone. But, you see, I just did not understand the richness or the height and depth and breadth of the love of God that He has shed on us in Jesus.

I was listening to Jason Crabb tonight tell the story of his dad—a man who had walked away from the Lord and wound up divorced, then remarried, and finally a broken down alcoholic with six kids. Jason said, after all of this and after years of wandering, his dad was alone one rainy day in the small car wash he ran when he heard God speak to him and say, "Gerald, I still love you." Tears began streaming down his face and he got down on his knees in the mud of that car wash and said to God, "I still love you, too. I am so sorry. Please forgive me." He was restored by the love of God, pastored a small church in Kentucky, and became one of the great gospel song writers of all time.

You see, when we first truly turn to God, He never lets go of us. His love for us is beyond anything we can imagine. If we have ever truly wanted to serve Him, He will always work to bring us back and make us into what He has destined us to be.

Out of Gerald Crabb's experience came his first great gospel song: Please Forgive Me. Jason and the rest of the Crabb family sing this song below. The lyrics follow.

I pray that if anybody feels that they have gone too far from God that Gerald Crabb's story will convince them of the everlasting love of God ... for THEM. He doesn't just love mankind in general: He loves YOU. You, the individual. The one reading this. With all your faults. With all your fears. With all your failings. With all that you have done. Call out to Him, dear one, He will restore you and make you a pillar in His church.



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My sleep is gone, my heart is full of sorrow,
I cant believe how much I've let you down.
I dread the pain that waits for me tomorrow
When the sun reveals my broken dreams scattered on the ground.

Chorus:
Please forgive me;
I need your grace to make it through.
All I have is you, I'm at your mercy.
Lord, i'll serve you
Until my dying day,
And help others find the way
At your mercy.
Please forgive me

I cant believe the God of earth and glory
Would take the time to care for one like me;
But I read in the Bible that old story
How he plead for my forgiveness while He was dying on a tree

Chorus:
Please forgive me;
I need your grace to make it through.
All I have is you, I'm at your mercy.
Lord, I'll serve you
Until my dying day,
And help others find the way
At your mercy.
Please forgive me.
 

Robert

Well-Known Member
Yeah; there is no such thing as "too far", as long as your heart yearns for forgiveness and to be reconciled with the Lord.

Nice vid, Matt! :thumbup:
 

Dave

Well-Known Member
Great post Robert and thanks for posting it. It really needed to be talked about. I used to have a fear also of commiting this sin.
 
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