The Slow Step to a One World Govmint

Andy C

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Just imagine the pandamonium that will occur when millions of adults and all of the children suddenly disappear. There will be chaos in the streets and stores will be raided for food and supplies by the people left behind.
Yes, it will be horrendous to the extent not possible to fathom for us here today.

When the global chaos ensues by those left behind, the world will be ripe for a new global leadership.
 

Bohdan

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So far, all the explicit "one world government" types are in the west.

That will necessarily change, but the real thing may come from another direction.
I don't have anything particular in mind, I'm just wary of too detailed confabulation about prophetic interpretation.

However it breaks, trust in Christ.
 

GotGrace

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I suspect you are right about this. Dictators always distrust everyone around them and will use whomever they can to gain power and once in power tend to eliminate any perceived threats. Of course this will be the dictator of dictators - the A/C and he will be ruthless! If you want to understand where Klaus Schwab gets his ideas about the "Fourth Industrial Revolution" look at an Israeli history teacher named Yuval Noah Harari. He has a website and has authored a number of books. He is an atheist who claims that "history started when man invented god and will end when man becomes god." He has also stated that "Jesus Christ raised from the dead is fake news." This is where they get their ideas from and if you read some of his stuff it is scary. He also says that government surveillance used to be done from above, in the future it will be conducted in people (mark of the beast). These people are wicked to the core!

Come quickly Lord Jesus!
Mr Harry is sure going to be in for a great shock, worse than an electric shock when the Lord says “hello Harry, I’ve been waiting on you, but don’t worry you won’t be in my throne room long.” :flamon
 

athenasius

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So far, all the explicit "one world government" types are in the west.

That will necessarily change, but the real thing may come from another direction.
I don't have anything particular in mind, I'm just wary of too detailed confabulation about prophetic interpretation.

However it breaks, trust in Christ.
Well actually both China and Russia have "one world government" in mind too, but it's them, not some western leftist elite gang that would be the rulers of the planet.

Xi thinks it's China

Putin is aiming for Russia being at the top of the food chain

while Islam has their OWN version of world conquest and domination. Ever since Mo came along to spread the joy and peace by cutting infidels heads off.

The unseen leader is the same rebel who caused humanity to fall. Again that one worked on Nimrod at Babel, and God dealt with that situation sharply.
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
Staff member
I read where the beginnings of "own nothing" have started in companies such as BMW, which plan to make consumers pay $18 month to have heated seats in their cars. Eventually all the things we "own" will not really be ours because of ongoing subscriptions needed to keep items up to date.

BMW’s Heated Seats as a Service Model Has Drivers Seeking Hacks​

There’s been a bit of a backlash to the news that BMW will now charge owners a subscription to use the heated seats in their cars if they weren’t a paid-for option when new. The German carmaker has been putting extra features like high-beam assist behind a paywall for a couple of years now, and you pay to access the pre-installed software feature. But heated seats are hardware: Pads are integrated in the seat during production, there is wiring and switches. And to top it all, drivers have already bought and own this physical kit, hardware that will not benefit from software updates or regular over-the-air upgrades.

The idea of paying to use something that’s already physically there rankles, like low-cost airline CEO Michael O’Leary’s suggestion he’d charge a pound to use the toilet on Ryanair flights. In his defense, he said he’d give the money to charity and his aim was was to get rid of the rear toilets, fit six extra seats, and make flights cheaper for everyone. BMW’s move looks like a simple way to raise revenue. In the UK, BMW has priced heated seats at £15 ($18) a month, £150 a year, £250 for three years, or £350 “unlimited.” On a new 1-series, they can only be ordered as part of a £600 ($720) “comfort pack.”

Extra features have been built into the software of cars for a number of years, from more sophisticated cruise control with speed management and lane-keep assist, to fancy light shows on startup. They are switched on for top-of-the-range models and left dormant for others, with some offered as “dealer fit” options, sold in the showroom to a customer collecting their new car.

Software as a service (SAAS), then, is not new in the car world. And you won’t be surprised to learn that you can go online and find someone who will unlock these dormant features of your car for much less than a carmaker charges. “This has been popular on VW/Audi cars for a while now,” says Iain Litchfield, boss of Litchfield Motor, one of the UK’s foremost car tuners. He concentrates mainly on cracking engine management systems to get more power, but knows people who can give upgraded sat nav, the latest tune for your adaptive suspension or, indeed, unlock access to your heated seats.

https://www.wired.com/story/bmw-heated-seats-as-a-service-model-has-drivers-seeking-hacks/
 

Andy C

Well-Known Member

BMW’s Heated Seats as a Service Model Has Drivers Seeking Hacks​

There’s been a bit of a backlash to the news that BMW will now charge owners a subscription to use the heated seats in their cars if they weren’t a paid-for option when new. The German carmaker has been putting extra features like high-beam assist behind a paywall for a couple of years now, and you pay to access the pre-installed software feature. But heated seats are hardware: Pads are integrated in the seat during production, there is wiring and switches. And to top it all, drivers have already bought and own this physical kit, hardware that will not benefit from software updates or regular over-the-air upgrades.

The idea of paying to use something that’s already physically there rankles, like low-cost airline CEO Michael O’Leary’s suggestion he’d charge a pound to use the toilet on Ryanair flights. In his defense, he said he’d give the money to charity and his aim was was to get rid of the rear toilets, fit six extra seats, and make flights cheaper for everyone. BMW’s move looks like a simple way to raise revenue. In the UK, BMW has priced heated seats at £15 ($18) a month, £150 a year, £250 for three years, or £350 “unlimited.” On a new 1-series, they can only be ordered as part of a £600 ($720) “comfort pack.”

Extra features have been built into the software of cars for a number of years, from more sophisticated cruise control with speed management and lane-keep assist, to fancy light shows on startup. They are switched on for top-of-the-range models and left dormant for others, with some offered as “dealer fit” options, sold in the showroom to a customer collecting their new car.

Software as a service (SAAS), then, is not new in the car world. And you won’t be surprised to learn that you can go online and find someone who will unlock these dormant features of your car for much less than a carmaker charges. “This has been popular on VW/Audi cars for a while now,” says Iain Litchfield, boss of Litchfield Motor, one of the UK’s foremost car tuners. He concentrates mainly on cracking engine management systems to get more power, but knows people who can give upgraded sat nav, the latest tune for your adaptive suspension or, indeed, unlock access to your heated seats.

https://www.wired.com/story/bmw-heated-seats-as-a-service-model-has-drivers-seeking-hacks/
I dont like their money raising policies, then again most who buy a BMW will seek all the extras.

I dont see the connection with a few companies lame policies to seek extra money, and the future OWG?????

Those who dont like the policy, can negotiate around it, or better yet, take their hard earned dollars to other car companies.
 

MapleLeaf

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I dont like their money raising policies, then again most who buy a BMW will seek all the extras.

I dont see the connection with a few companies lame policies to seek extra money, and the future OWG?????

Those who dont like the policy, can negotiate around it, or better yet, take their hard earned dollars to other car companies.
The problem is they are now constantly connected to you and your purchases. You will never truly own anything again. If they can remotely turn off your heated seats then they can remotely turn off your engines or listen in. They already do stuff like this with all the apps on our phones and iTunes. You no longer own your own copies of music. You only buy the right to use it and they can technically remove it when they see fit, no money back. Some connectivity can be good and useful but I want to be able to choose which devices do that and I prefer only the ones that be shoved into drawers, left at home, have tape over the cameras and mic openings, etc. When we bought our TV we specifically avoided the Smart TVs. Not sure that's even an option anymore. Our thrift store stopped selling TVs for some reason but we do have one from there too.
 

Andy C

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The problem is they are now constantly connected to you and your purchases. You will never truly own anything again. If they can remotely turn off your heated seats then they can remotely turn off your engines or listen in. They already do stuff like this with all the apps on our phones and iTunes. You no longer own your own copies of music. You only buy the right to use it and they can technically remove it when they see fit, no money back. Some connectivity can be good and useful but I want to be able to choose which devices do that and I prefer only the ones that be shoved into drawers, left at home, have tape over the cameras and mic openings, etc. When we bought our TV we specifically avoided the Smart TVs. Not sure that's even an option anymore. Our thrift store stopped selling TVs for some reason but we do have one from there too.
Maybe, but whats here in my house, garage, and driveway, I own that.

Long ago I knew personal privacy would soon be a thing of the past. Cameras, recordings, and tracking devices are everywhere. However, for me, it does not change how I choose to live my life. They can watch all they want, and probably be bored and tune in to someone else. Nothing to see here:cop
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
I read where the beginnings of "own nothing" have started in companies such as BMW, which plan to make consumers pay $18 month to have heated seats in their cars. Eventually all the things we "own" will not really be ours because of ongoing subscriptions needed to keep items up to date.
Microsoft 360 subscription :mad
I don't use it, don't have it, and don't want it. Bill Gates can keep it.

I still have the CDs for Office 97 and Office 2007 :lol
They work just fine :tappingfoot
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
My hard-copy Bibles, hymnals, books, and sheet music are permanently up-to-date. No subscription needed :biggrin

Ditto my bicycle. It was registered in Minneapolis almost 50 years ago and there's no expiration on the sticker :lol

And . . . China still can't build a big enough pay wall to make me pay-per-view of the moon :tongue :lol
 

Andy C

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I do not have smart or automatic or tracking anything. No Siri, no ring, no remote start, nada. I have been suspicious of everything for a very long time.
I guess for me, the idea of being monitored is not a problem. I have a home that is considered a “smart” home, which means the previous owner was waaaaayyyy smarter than me. We have smart TVs, and in my back bedroom which I turned into a weight room we have an Amazon Echo, with “Alexa”. However, when the gym is not in use, the door is closed, so no issues with her. I use a GPS tracker heart rate monitoring system on every mile I ride on my bike.

I could sell the house, and move to the middle of nowhere and hide out, go off grid, and be miserable…..Nahhhh, not the life I want to live.

None of the above bothers me because the Only One who matters, and knows my every thought, is Him living inside of me. All the rest to me, is plain and simple….mule fritters.

Bring it on Klaus - you wont win, your ticket is already purchased, and it will soon be too late to get a refund.
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
Staff member
I guess for me, the idea of being monitored is not a problem

I'm not overly concerned about being monitored. If there's something I derive some benefit from that includes a device that collects data I don't worry about it.

If there is something I have no desire to use like Alexa or Bixby, etc., I get angry when it keeps getting pushed in my face. Generations of phones ago Samsung was doing that with Bixby but lately they've made it easier for the user to configure things so Bixby stays invisible. Amazon is becoming evermore bold with Alexa. Even though I have Alexa turned off in the app there's now an Alexa icon on every page and windows pop up on occasion mentioning one thing or another about Alexa. That I do not like.
 

Andy C

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I'm not overly concerned about being monitored. If there's something I derive some benefit from that includes a device that collects data I don't worry about it.

If there is something I have no desire to use like Alexa or Bixby, etc., I get angry when it keeps getting pushed in my face. Generations of phones ago Samsung was doing that with Bixby but lately they've made it easier for the user to configure things so Bixby stays invisible. Amazon is becoming evermore bold with Alexa. Even though I have Alexa turned off in the app there's now an Alexa icon on every page and windows pop up on occasion mentioning one thing or another about Alexa. That I do not like.
I never heard of Bixby?
 
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