The Gay Divide. Is Your Church Next?

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The Gay Divide. Is Your Church Next?
By Shane Idleman

In light of Justin Hoke being removed as pastor of Trinity Bible Presbyterian Church for posting the following: “Bruce Jenner is still a man. Homosexuality is still sin. The culture may change; the Bible does not,” I thought it was appropriate and timely to re-release this article:

With pastors stepping down, best-selling Christian authors remaining silent, and popular worship leaders showing support for gay-marriage, many are left baffled and confused. These points may help us better understand the great divide:

1. The definition of love is misunderstood. To truly “love” others we must first love God and His truth – that’s the foundation (cf. Matthew 22:36-40). Does loving someone mean we approve of their lifestyle? Or does it mean that we love them enough to share the truth? If a person is more worried about being liked than being truthful, do they really love those caught in sin more than those who are willing to speak the truth in love? The answer is obvious: Authentic Christians love the truth and others to the degree that they are willing to risk the consequences of confrontation in order to help others. This is genuine love, not hatred. The greatest gift parents can give to their children is love and truth rather than reinforcing a destructive lifestyle.

How can one person review Bible verses dealing with this topic and come to the conclusion that gay marriage is biblical while others come to the opposite conclusion? It’s very simple: The first group looks through the lens of opinion; the second group through the lens of genuine love and absolute truth.

Dr. Michael Brown recently remarked, “One reason people support gay-marriage is because their gay friends are really nice and some seem to be committed Christians. They say their spiritual lives came alive when they realized they could be gay and Christian at the same time.” I believe that they came alive because someone validated their lifestyle. This is no different than people who say they feel alive and renewed even though they are caught in adultery. Sin feels good for a season – that’s the deception. But these seasons of sexual fulfillment are often short lived – “Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows” (Galatians 6:7). True freedom comes from true repentance.

2. Is the Bible clear or vague? Recent polls show that less than 50% of believers even read their Bible, let alone practice it. And, as we know, to read truth without practicing it, leads to deception…No wonder there’s confusion. Additionally, many of the proponents are embracing the views of liberal authors. They value the words of Matthew Vines more than the gospel of Matthew.

When Christians believe that God has given them the authority to change truth in order to keep it relevant, they are departing from God. Although disheartening, this trend is not surprising. The apostle Paul warned centuries ago: “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine [God’s Word], but according to their own desires…they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables” (2 Timothy 4:3-4). If this isn’t what we see today, I don’t know what is.

The Bible encourages us to be peacemakers but not religious negotiators. In our zeal to reach others, we often compromise the message because we want to be liked rather than truthful. Surprisingly, it was “Christians” who came against my article regarding what the Bible says about gay-marriage and homosexuality.

3. Don’t judge apparently means don’t say anything negative. When we look at the context and the true meaning of “judge,” we clearly see that there is no contradiction. This misrepresentation of “judging” is an attempt to conform scripture to support opinions. In John 7:24, Christians are to judge or “call into question” those things that clearly contradict God’s principles. In 1 Corinthians 2:15, the apostle Paul said that those who are spiritual should judge and discern all things. We are to examine our own lives first, and then we are to be moved primarily by love for God and others before critiquing.

4. Who’s influencing your decision – Hollywood or the Holy Spirit? Our beliefs should reflect God’s heart rather than the world’s influence. The world will know that we are Christians by our love for one another and by our obedience, not by how well we imitate the world around us. Oswald Chambers once noted that a sinner, who is now saved by grace, “proves he is forgiven by being the opposite of who he was.”

Carnal Christians give God “His due”…a few hours on Sunday. The things of the world are exciting and the things of God are dull. The love of this world and the praise of men have drawn a large section of Christendom away from God, hence the divide. A carnal Christian does not pray and seek the heart of God. A deep prayer life exposes facades and crushes hypocrisy. Carnality also destroys spiritual power and hinders the infilling of the Spirit. In short, everything that God calls us to be is compromised, including a skewed view of sexual purity.

Sadly, many who embrace views outside of the Bible are not saved. Genuine faith is reflected in a love for God and His Word, sincere humility, true repentance, and a disconnect from the world. Does your life reflect these characteristics? We all sin and fall short, but the important question to ask is what is the condition of your heart—have you truly repented and believed in Christ as your Lord and Savior, or are you trusting in false assurance? Paul said in 2 Corinthians 13:5 to, “Examine yourself as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?”

5. There is hope: At this point you may think, “Why try? This is hopeless! I’ve drifted too far.” Let me reassure you: God doesn’t let our relationship with Him hinge on “measuring up,” or on “following rules.” He wants us to come as we are, recognize our need for a Savior, and commit our life completely to Him. Whether you’re promoting gay-marriage or struggling with homosexuality, recognize that we’ve all made mistakes. Simply repent and strive for holiness and purity, and you will experience “times of refreshing from the presence of the Lord” (cf. Acts 3:19). Change is God’s job, but obedience is ours.

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AnewcreationinJesus

Soon and very soon ....
Well I've been forgiven of millions of sins including those of a homosexual/drunken/debauched nature when I truly walked in the will of the gentiles but praise God I truly am a new creation and the Holy Spirit helps me walk in the Spirit now and not in the flesh, so those old man things are truly dead! Hallelujah, I no longer "want to spend my time in the flesh for the lusts of men but for the will of God".

I give him all the praise and glory - that he who knew no sin died for the sins of the whole world! Including mine!

My prayer is for more ensnared in homosexuality to truly have a day of salvation miracle, to respond to the holy spirit conviction concerning sin and to be able to walk in Jesus' freedom - he who the Son sets free is free indeed!

A very well written article - the gospel truth needs to go out from the pulpit, no compromise, and may the lord give the boldness and courage for pastors not to try and be like the world to attract the world, as we truly live in the godless culture like in the days of Lot, but as the word of God is preached - faith comes by hearing- may we see more salvation miracles out of homosexuality and transgender, and may we see more Titus 1:9 pastors ...

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Patti

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I remember seeing the pastor from the Westboro Baptist Church on college campuses with his anti-homosexual posters that said “God hates ______”.

The young students translated this to mean that Christians are full of hate and they identified with homosexuals as a civil rights movement.

And now there is a whole generation of people who have rejected Christianity because they believe Christians are a bunch of bigots.

Satan has really been busy. He used homosexuality as a stumbling block for many young adults. Even if they are straight!
 

Kem

Citizen
I sometimes wish there was a crying icon rather than like for the OP. We live in such wicked times and many are just plain determined to push evil on all of us, others are just greatly deceived but to read that less than half of Christians bother to read their Bible much less practice it is really horrifying.
 

mattfivefour

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Carnal Christians give God “His due”…a few hours on Sunday. The things of the world are exciting and the things of God are dull. The love of this world and the praise of men have drawn a large section of Christendom away from God, hence the divide. A carnal Christian does not pray and seek the heart of God. A deep prayer life exposes facades and crushes hypocrisy. Carnality also destroys spiritual power and hinders the infilling of the Spirit. In short, everything that God calls us to be is compromised, including a skewed view of sexual purity.
There is a lot in the OP that applies to much more than homosexual sin. The above is just one example. Many Christians should be convicted and brought to repentance by reading it.
 

twerpv

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There is a lot in the OP that applies to much more than homosexual sin. The above is just one example. Many Christians should be convicted and brought to repentance by reading it.

Adrian,
That’s exactly what I got out of it. I sent that to my kids (19 & 22) and said the same thing. That is that the article applies to more than homosexuality. Also that I’m looking in the mirror (not about the gay aspect but other sins in my life).
 

madcat

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The senior pastor at my church put a stop to a small group being headed up by two homosexuals that were living together. I wasn't privy to the discussion but they were non-plussed by it. Nonetheless, the senior pastor stood his ground.

The church I attend is a fast growing church comprised mostly of 18 to 35 year olds.....an age group many churches fail to reach. The senior pastor preaches from God's Word and invites congregants to reach out to him and other church members if they have questions about, or want to make a decision for, Jesus. He recently began stationing believers in the sanctuary as the services are ending for anyone needing/wanting prayer. We have baptisms quarterly at which there are about a dozen that get baptized and pronounce their faith in Jesus as Lord of their lives. It's not the traditional Southern Baptist kind of service that I'm used to but it's effective and people are coming to the Lord. His decision to cancel that small group led by the two gay men reassures me that he's on the right track and not giving in.

Our pastor just started a series of sermons called "the untouchables". So far, racism, homosexuality, and this week sanctity of life. He brings in someone each week with a personal "story" to tell, in hopes that those in the audience (and they are there every week), will see their sin and ask for prayer/counseling after each service. So far there have been no "attacks" for the sermon series, so maybe there will some saved. Of course this is middle TN, but I really expected some opposition from "groups".
 
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