The Coming Financial Collapse and the Great Reset

Dragontiger777

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These are good a message and explain clearly understand. However, my questions are Reset and other an issue. To me I feel like yawn!!! Also tired of heard repeat "Reset blah"

Because I have been seeing the Internet and FB, IG, other Forum talk same thing over again and over again there is no reason to message about "RESET". That is my thought!

When will impact and reset?
 

athenasius

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These are good a message and explain clearly understand. However, my questions are Reset and other an issue. To me I feel like yawn!!! Also tired of heard repeat "Reset blah"

Because I have been seeing the Internet and FB, IG, other Forum talk same thing over again and over again there is no reason to message about "RESET". That is my thought!

When will impact and reset?

When will the reset everyone talks about impact the world? if that is your question, my answer would be only in God's timing. And God takes care of His own.

The whole global economic reset is being pushed by the bankers, the World Economic Forum and people like George Soros and groups like Davos. They keep trying, and I might add, they keep failing because until GOD allows them to succeed, it won't happen fully.

Market corrections, instability, even extreme inflation have all happened in the past, and will keep happening till Jesus comes, but the kind of RESET that the globalists want, that belongs to the Tribulation period and we are out of here before that gets going.

I think people like fear. They go on those rides at the fairgrounds or watch scary movies because the adrenaline rush of surviving the ride, of walking out of the theatre knowing it was just a fantasy. It makes them feel good.

Sometimes the discussion of coming economic disaster is a bit like that. Some really enjoy it.

But for others it causes great fear, paralyzing them or causing them to panic buy buckets of dried food just in case.

I've noticed that some (not the writer here) of the people reporting on this do have some benefit--they sell buckets of dried food, or they sell investment strategies etc. They make money off of fear.

For the unsaved people like Glenn Beck who genuinely want to warn people of coming crisis, their motives are good, but their understanding of the Bible and prophecy is faulty. They want political solutions. They figure if you can elect the right people in the right numbers we could turn this around in some way.

Among Christians -- some of them belive we are here for part of the Trib (mid Tribbers) and they seem to enjoy the thought of being here for part of the Tribulation, so they like to play up the idea that Christians need to prepare in some way, and this leads them to an over emphasis on global economic disaster that we can and should prepare for.

That idea of going thru the Tribulation, or a part of it, rests on works, our ability, not on faith in God's provision.

A balanced and Scriptural view, the Pre Trib position is one of faith in God to supply and to carry us thru the storms of life and finally to keep His promise to come and get us before the Tribulation starts.

Central banks openly discuss their plans to replace national currencies with new cryptocurrencies, giving their governments unprecedented power. With such power, not only will government be able to track everything you buy or sell, it will be able to kick you out of the economic system – just as the Bible says.

If government cryptocurrencies replace paper currencies, individual freedom and liberty will disappear. Governments will be able to “turn off” an individual’s cryptocurrency. That means if you do something the government doesn’t approve of, they’ll be able to shut down your ability to buy and sell. The Canadian government already showed its willingness to do this when it cut off financial access to anyone who supported the Canadian trucker protest. The Bible says this is precisely what will happen in the end times. The Antichrist will establish a global system of commerce. His system will play a part in every economic transaction on earth. It will be so dominant, no one will be able to buy or sell anything without the Antichrist’s approval (Revelation 13:17).

As Britt Gillette says here, this is a signpost that we are getting very close to the Tribulation period.

Which means the Rapture is coming up even faster because the Rapture happens before the Tribulation is allowed to start.

So if we see the kind of global economic currency (that allows them to do what the Bible says will happen in the Tribulation) being pushed as a solution to a crisis that the bankers themselves created then we are even closer to the Rapture.

It's a signpost of what's ahead.

While we could still see problems like we did in '08 or this devaluation of currency that we are in now (as a result of govts around the world printing money to "spend" on stimulus bills since Feb 2020) --the really big stuff happens after we are gone.

The 3rd Seal happens well after we are Raptured, and that is the one with the global famine. It comes after the Antichrist brings a false peace treaty with Israel that kicks off the Tribulation, and after the global war that follows. Those are the first and second seals.

Rev 6: 1- 8 NIV
1 I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!” 2 I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.


3 When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!” 4 Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. To him was given a large sword.


5 When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. 6 Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two pounds of wheat for a day’s wages, and six pounds of barley for a day’s wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!”


7 When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” 8 I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
 

cheeky200386

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I don't know why some Christians are so eager to go through the Tribulation? We have nothing to prove. This life is hard enough as it is!
I've never met mid tribbers or post tribbers that are excited or eager to go through tribulation. They all seem convinced they just will and that is pretribbers will be rudely shocked and unprepared.

I feel sad for those people because they are looking for the AntiChrist rather than Jesus Christ. They lack excitement because they don't see the world events as leading to our blessed hope but to an inescapable wrath.
 

Andiamo

"Let's go!"
I've never met mid tribbers or post tribbers that are excited or eager to go through tribulation. They all seem convinced they just will and that is pretribbers will be rudely shocked and unprepared.

I feel sad for those people because they are looking for the AntiChrist rather than Jesus Christ. They lack excitement because they don't see the world events as leading to our blessed hope but to an inescapable wrath.
I have. A friend of mine says excitedly, "I want that martyr's crown, to lay at Jesus' feet!" I know others who Look forward to participating in the big tribulation revival.
 

athenasius

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I have. A friend of mine says excitedly, "I want that martyr's crown, to lay at Jesus' feet!" I know others who Look forward to participating in the big tribulation revival.
Me too. One of them got really mad at me on Facebook for reassuring my daughter in law by posting a few good video links on why we don't have to worry about going thru the Trib at all. It was for her I posted it, a semi private conversation but he got all bent out of shape over it that I wasn't "preparing" her to face what's coming. The idea he seemed to hold was that Christians who aren't prepped and ready like him, will fold like a house of cards when the Antichrist shows up to strut his stuff.

He is mid trib and like a few others that I've bumped into online he is energized by the thought of proving his faith in that trial period. He is quite sure there will be a lot of loser types like me whimpering our way thru, barely getting by or failing miserably and dying in defeat.
 

Chris

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I don't know why some Christians are so eager to go through the Tribulation? We have nothing to prove. This life is hard enough as it is!

I've heard some say they have to go through the Tribulation period to "refine" themselves and be made "pure" through suffering and trials. It totally disregards what Jesus did on the Cross and basically says that they need to "help" Jesus with our salvation because he didn't do it right the first time. :doh :doh :doh

The truth is that Jesus did it ALL. And that all we need to do is to spread the Good News and let His completed work on the Cross pay the price we could never pay. :thumbup At the moment of belief we were justified once and for all. Nothing else to do for salvation. Now we just wait for the day of redemption whether by death or rapture! :thumbup
 

Andiamo

"Let's go!"
Me too. One of them got really mad at me on Facebook for reassuring my daughter in law by posting a few good video links on why we don't have to worry about going thru the Trib at all. It was for her I posted it, a semi private conversation but he got all bent out of shape over it that I wasn't "preparing" her to face what's coming. The idea he seemed to hold was that Christians who aren't prepped and ready like him, will fold like a house of cards when the Antichrist shows up to strut his stuff.

He is mid trib and like a few others that I've bumped into online he is energized by the thought of proving his faith in that trial period. He is quite sure there will be a lot of loser types like me whimpering our way thru, barely getting by or failing miserably and dying in defeat.
It's so silly isn't it? All of that preparing, for what's going to happen.
What's going to happen is that very quickly, the choice will be forced upon believers to take or not take the mark.
Believers will refuse.
They will be beheaded.
The end.
 

MapleLeaf

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I think life is going to be very hard before the Rapture even with a pre-Trib view point. God always seems to work "under the wire" so to speak so we know it is Him doing it. Lot was snatched at the last moment, God closed the doors to the Ark just before it began to rain, etc. We will all be refined in our own way. And the "need to be refined" in the Tribulation talk seems kind of insulting of the Christians who were faithful yet died in peace. I don't like comparing hardships to hardships. It isn't "fair" by human standards that some lived in peace and security while others toiled under persecution. Yet God didn't have to give salvation to anybody so who are we to complain? It's like that parable of the workers in the field. The ones who worked all day were paid the same as those who only worked the last hour. And maybe our "first world problems" don't seem a big deal to others but when it's a matter of the heart we all have our own pains and struggles and crisis of faith.
 

ChildofLight

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I've heard some say they have to go through the Tribulation period to "refine" themselves and be made "pure" through suffering and trials. It totally disregards what Jesus did on the Cross and basically says that they need to "help" Jesus with our salvation because he didn't do it right the first time. :doh :doh :doh

The truth is that Jesus did it ALL. And that all we need to do is to spread the Good News and let His completed work on the Cross pay the price we could never pay. :thumbup At the moment of belief we were justified once and for all. Nothing else to do for salvation. Now we just wait for the day of redemption whether by death or rapture! :thumbup
I’ve already got enough suffering and trials as it is without wishing or looking for more. I long to be with Christ in ULTIMATE love and peace forever.
 

GotGrace

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They say the computers and chips in cars are in high demand these days due to Taiwan having a lock on the processing of such things. With China threatening to make a move on Taiwan, it brings jitters into the market and raises prices. I have heard people claiming their is a shortage of cars, but I see cars on the lots so I don't know what they are talking about? :idunno

I have a 2006 Volvo with 131,000 miles on it that I drive. I plan to drive that thing until it won't drive anymore. Which those kind of cars are good for 300,000-400,000 miles. I bought it 8 years ago with 85,000 miles on it. My workplace is only about 10 minutes from my house. The first 9 months of the pandemic I only put 700 miles on the vehicle. LOL

I am having one issue with it now and we called them the week before about it and I have an appointment with the Volvo dealer on July 5th. They are about 3 weeks out in their appointments. :ohno
I agree with you on keeping a car for a long time. They cost too much and retain little value until now.
 

crunchymama

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Me too. One of them got really mad at me on Facebook for reassuring my daughter in law by posting a few good video links on why we don't have to worry about going thru the Trib at all. It was for her I posted it, a semi private conversation but he got all bent out of shape over it that I wasn't "preparing" her to face what's coming. The idea he seemed to hold was that Christians who aren't prepped and ready like him, will fold like a house of cards when the Antichrist shows up to strut his stuff.

He is mid trib and like a few others that I've bumped into online he is energized by the thought of proving his faith in that trial period. He is quite sure there will be a lot of loser types like me whimpering our way thru, barely getting by or failing miserably and dying in defeat.
I was in an online conversation once and the guy said that I just wanted to escape because I didn't want to go through the Trib and that with my attitude I wouldn't make it. My response- I've actually read Revelation. Have you? No, I do not want to go through it and if for some reason the rapture isn't pre-Trib, I have no desire to try to live through it.
 

Jaybird

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They can all believe they will go through the Tribulation if they want to, but what does the Bible say about this?

Revelation 3:10
"Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth."
How do they interpret this? It sure sounds pretty clear to me!
 

Eastxn

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I've heard some say they have to go through the Tribulation period to "refine" themselves and be made "pure" through suffering and trials. It totally disregards what Jesus did on the Cross and basically says that they need to "help" Jesus with our salvation because he didn't do it right the first time. :doh :doh :doh

The truth is that Jesus did it ALL. And that all we need to do is to spread the Good News and let His completed work on the Cross pay the price we could never pay. :thumbup At the moment of belief we were justified once and for all. Nothing else to do for salvation. Now we just wait for the day of redemption whether by death or rapture! :thumbup
I always reply to that argument (theirs not yours Chris) by saying "what about all the believers who have died in the past? They don't have to go through the tribulation either. What about that?"

The response is usually something along the lines of "they just lucked out"
 

Reason & Hope

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After our last church's pastor went woke and decided to ridicule anyone who believes in a non-allegorical interpretation of Revelation, my husband and I went searching for a new church. We found one whose website says that some believe pre and some post, but the essential thing was to look for the Lord's return. Well, that seemed about as good as we were going to get (they are pro-life, support a crisis pregnancy center, and are good on other Romans 1 issues, as well as having good teachers). However, it turns out the pastor's blessed hope is in making it through the Tribulation and meeting Jesus in the air as He comes to conquer. :0_O Gee, that's so inspiring (not). :rolleyes:

The funny thing is everyone in our life group is pre-trib except for 2 who are just confused/don't want to commit.
 

TrustinHim

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No matter how well prepared some people are they will not be able to cope with the absolute chaos that economic collapse will cause. I don't want to see anyone go through that especially the elderly and infirm, I recall the image of an elderly man in a wheelchair left to die in the heat after hurricane Katrina. So any food and stuff I have stored up will hopefully benefit some left behind folks as they realize that the "fundamentalists " were right about the Bible and prophetic times we are in.
 
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