The Coming Financial Collapse and the Great Reset
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cheeky200386
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I've never met mid tribbers or post tribbers that are excited or eager to go through tribulation. They all seem convinced they just will and that is pretribbers will be rudely shocked and unprepared.
I feel sad for those people because they are looking for the AntiChrist rather than Jesus Christ. They lack excitement because they don't see the world events as leading to our blessed hope but to an inescapable wrath.
Andiamo
"Let's go!"
I have. A friend of mine says excitedly, "I want that martyr's crown, to lay at Jesus' feet!" I know others who Look forward to participating in the big tribulation revival.
athenasius
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Me too. One of them got really mad at me on Facebook for reassuring my daughter in law by posting a few good video links on why we don't have to worry about going thru the Trib at all. It was for her I posted it, a semi private conversation but he got all bent out of shape over it that I wasn't "preparing" her to face what's coming. The idea he seemed to hold was that Christians who aren't prepped and ready like him, will fold like a house of cards when the Antichrist shows up to strut his stuff.
He is mid trib and like a few others that I've bumped into online he is energized by the thought of proving his faith in that trial period. He is quite sure there will be a lot of loser types like me whimpering our way thru, barely getting by or failing miserably and dying in defeat.
I've heard some say they have to go through the Tribulation period to "refine" themselves and be made "pure" through suffering and trials. It totally disregards what Jesus did on the Cross and basically says that they need to "help" Jesus with our salvation because he didn't do it right the first time.
The truth is that Jesus did it ALL. And that all we need to do is to spread the Good News and let His completed work on the Cross pay the price we could never pay.
At the moment of belief we were justified once and for all. Nothing else to do for salvation. Now we just wait for the day of redemption whether by death or rapture!
Andiamo
"Let's go!"
It's so silly isn't it? All of that preparing, for what's going to happen.
What's going to happen is that very quickly, the choice will be forced upon believers to take or not take the mark.
Believers will refuse.
They will be beheaded.
The end.
I think life is going to be very hard before the Rapture even with a pre-Trib view point. God always seems to work "under the wire" so to speak so we know it is Him doing it. Lot was snatched at the last moment, God closed the doors to the Ark just before it began to rain, etc. We will all be refined in our own way. And the "need to be refined" in the Tribulation talk seems kind of insulting of the Christians who were faithful yet died in peace. I don't like comparing hardships to hardships. It isn't "fair" by human standards that some lived in peace and security while others toiled under persecution. Yet God didn't have to give salvation to anybody so who are we to complain? It's like that parable of the workers in the field. The ones who worked all day were paid the same as those who only worked the last hour. And maybe our "first world problems" don't seem a big deal to others but when it's a matter of the heart we all have our own pains and struggles and crisis of faith.
Dragontiger777
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More likely some Christians people could be either so eager or tired of repeat likely "speak loud than action" That is all however God told us be patience for few delay!!
ChildofLight
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I’ve already got enough suffering and trials as it is without wishing or looking for more. I long to be with Christ in ULTIMATE love and peace forever.I've heard some say they have to go through the Tribulation period to "refine" themselves and be made "pure" through suffering and trials. It totally disregards what Jesus did on the Cross and basically says that they need to "help" Jesus with our salvation because he didn't do it right the first time.
The truth is that Jesus did it ALL. And that all we need to do is to spread the Good News and let His completed work on the Cross pay the price we could never pay.
GotGrace
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You know you don’t have the heart to harm a hair on Bowser’s head.
GotGrace
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I agree with you on keeping a car for a long time. They cost too much and retain little value until now.They say the computers and chips in cars are in high demand these days due to Taiwan having a lock on the processing of such things. With China threatening to make a move on Taiwan, it brings jitters into the market and raises prices. I have heard people claiming their is a shortage of cars, but I see cars on the lots so I don't know what they are talking about?
I have a 2006 Volvo with 131,000 miles on it that I drive. I plan to drive that thing until it won't drive anymore. Which those kind of cars are good for 300,000-400,000 miles. I bought it 8 years ago with 85,000 miles on it. My workplace is only about 10 minutes from my house. The first 9 months of the pandemic I only put 700 miles on the vehicle. LOL
I am having one issue with it now and we called them the week before about it and I have an appointment with the Volvo dealer on July 5th. They are about 3 weeks out in their appointments.
GotGrace
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I hope they realize before it’s too late that the trib. won‘t be anything like an hour of reality TV.
GotGrace
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You and me both.
crunchymama
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I was in an online conversation once and the guy said that I just wanted to escape because I didn't want to go through the Trib and that with my attitude I wouldn't make it. My response- I've actually read Revelation. Have you? No, I do not want to go through it and if for some reason the rapture isn't pre-Trib, I have no desire to try to live through it.
They can all believe they will go through the Tribulation if they want to, but what does the Bible say about this?
Revelation 3:10
"Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth."
How do they interpret this? It sure sounds pretty clear to me!
Revelation 3:10
"Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth."
How do they interpret this? It sure sounds pretty clear to me!
Eastxn
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I always reply to that argument (theirs not yours Chris) by saying "what about all the believers who have died in the past? They don't have to go through the tribulation either. What about that?"I've heard some say they have to go through the Tribulation period to "refine" themselves and be made "pure" through suffering and trials. It totally disregards what Jesus did on the Cross and basically says that they need to "help" Jesus with our salvation because he didn't do it right the first time.
The truth is that Jesus did it ALL. And that all we need to do is to spread the Good News and let His completed work on the Cross pay the price we could never pay.
The response is usually something along the lines of "they just lucked out"
Reason & Hope
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After our last church's pastor went woke and decided to ridicule anyone who believes in a non-allegorical interpretation of Revelation, my husband and I went searching for a new church. We found one whose website says that some believe pre and some post, but the essential thing was to look for the Lord's return. Well, that seemed about as good as we were going to get (they are pro-life, support a crisis pregnancy center, and are good on other Romans 1 issues, as well as having good teachers). However, it turns out the pastor's blessed hope is in making it through the Tribulation and meeting Jesus in the air as He comes to conquer. 
Gee, that's so inspiring (not). 
The funny thing is everyone in our life group is pre-trib except for 2 who are just confused/don't want to commit.
Gee, that's so inspiring (not). The funny thing is everyone in our life group is pre-trib except for 2 who are just confused/don't want to commit.
TrustinHim
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No matter how well prepared some people are they will not be able to cope with the absolute chaos that economic collapse will cause. I don't want to see anyone go through that especially the elderly and infirm, I recall the image of an elderly man in a wheelchair left to die in the heat after hurricane Katrina. So any food and stuff I have stored up will hopefully benefit some left behind folks as they realize that the "fundamentalists " were right about the Bible and prophetic times we are in.
Those who believe this must believe they and the Holy Spirit are a tag team. The Holy Spirit has them now, but when the trib hits, they tag in and bring it home.
athenasius
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Yup!Those who believe this must believe they and the Holy Spirit are a tag team. The Holy Spirit has them now, but when the trib hits, they tag in and bring it home.
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