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The Apostate New Apostolic Refomation: The fastest growing movement in the world.

Discussion in 'Apostasy in the Local Church' started by agtg, Apr 23, 2017.

  1. agtg

    agtg Member

    The New Apostolic Reformation is an apostate Christian movement built upon a hyper-authorarian pyramid scheme structure. Each of these ministries has their own guru-like apostle that sits at the top of their ministry. But the whole movement, because of it's affiliations, really reflects a much larger global pyramid structure much like the Catholic Church which is built upon a world-wide spread of archdiocese ministries. In other words, the larger structure, because of their affiliations and lines of authority, reflects many pyramids building up into a larger pyramid.

    While the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR for short) disguises itself as a mainline evangelical movement, it is actually under-girded by many extreme doctrines and practices that defy typical fundamental Christian beliefs.

    For one thing, it believes that God has recently restored the office of apostle and prophet in the last 30 years. They believe these apostle and prophet leaders have the same authority as 1st century apostles and prophets whom God used to establish the church and write the New Testament. That means these men believe they are able to bring forth new doctrines and practices built upon "revelatory" experiences such as dreams, visions, and things they hear in their head presuming the Holy Spirit is instructing them.

    This, of course, is very dangerous as it veers from the supremacy of scripture and places greater authority in the hands of wicked, sinful men.

    Second, it has magnified the Spiritual gifts taught in the New Testament in such an unbalanced manner that it disturbs sound doctrine for the sake of any opportunity to display spiritual power. Basically, its desire for spiritual power is insatiable, and the people within the movement cast aside all Biblical warnings against occult practices to achieve such power.

    Moreover, it's bent on spreading it's reach and control over the churched or unchurched across the globe. One of the most successful attempts to infiltrate non-NAR churches is through music ministries such as Jesus Culture and Hillsong. Both of those ministries are headed up by NAR apostles and because the music is easy on the ears and people want to sing along, they inevitably begin to look into those ministries further and wind up going deeper into the movement until they end up trapped in a local church affiliated with the movement.

    Additionally, the NAR believe God wants them to take over the earth and prepare it so that Jesus may return. This drive has brought forth a doctrinal mandate to overtake 7 spheres of the world's cultures. This demented doctrine is known as the 7 mountain mandate. The mountains being: religion, education, business, family, government/military, arts and entertainment, and media.

    And while that sounds like a wildly unachievable goal, the movement is actually making great inroads in these realms of culture across the globe.

    Rather than spreading the gospel of Christ to expand, it works feverishly to construct organizations built upon deep, cultist relationships of submission and authority that ensnare and entrap its followers. One of the ways it expands itself is to train disciples through ministry schools.

    Having attended Dr. Brown's Fire School of Ministry, I can give some insight into the cultist practices. Firstly, every semester starts with a mandatory weekend retreat which was nothing more than a tactic to soften people up to prepare them for their aberrant doctrines the students would soon encounter in their classrooms. The school program had a mandatory "deliverance" course where students had to confess every sin they've ever committed in their entire lives on a hard-copy document which was then submitted to the teacher leading the class. Students were continually pumped for information through weekly "accountability" questionnaires which delve into personal information about their daily lives. Students were not allowed to attend other church services without permission from the leadership. If a student questioned what was going on, they would be targeted and have a mid-level leader assigned to check on them frequently in order to exert a stronger arm of control over the student. Many of the leaders had no qualms about bullying a student to their face if they questioned things or noted un-Biblical practices. I experienced all of these things directly myself when I attended Fire School of Ministry (a video testimony to my experience at Fire School of Ministry can be found below).

    The movement even has its own media propaganda arm known as Charisma magazine online which pushes "articles" which exalt the leaders of the movement and their demented doctrines. Moreover, they regularly feature articles that subtly berate and goad the movement's followers not to question the leaders and to submit for the greater good of the movement. All of this is dressed up in the guise of giving all to Jesus. Meanwhile, it is the earthly kingdoms of these men and women at the top of the pyramid schemes which benefit from such deep, blind allegiance.

    They work subtle subversion towards mainstream evangelicalism through mass-media, as well, approaching the general public with the disguise of a mainline Christian conservative. This can be seen in movies such as War Room which was marketed as a typical Christian movie about prayer, but in fact pushes extreme ideas that are reflective of contemplative, emergent heresies as well as un-Biblical NAR strategic spiritual warfare doctrines.

    Also, this subtle subversion can be seen in likes of Dr. Brown through his prolific article writing spread through conservative websites. Additionally, his radio show The Line of Fire is aired in cities across the nation and his persona is one as a conservative Christian even though his actual beliefs are extreme and in line with the fringe, ultra-charismatic NAR doctrines.

    He broaches these subjects subtly on his show, often acting as though he isn't really an adherent, as if it's merely a point of discussion when, in fact, he is feeding anyone who listens NAR Kool-aid in small amounts until the notions infect their own belief systems and they are drawn into the delusional movement themselves.

    The biggest offenders leading this movement all have ministry schools to train underlings and expand their pyramid scheme as those students rise up in their own positions and draw their own followers. Since tithing (giving one tenth of one's income to the church) is one of the fundamental doctrines, this means money gets funneled upward along the lines of authority the pyramid structures maintain. This is a clear money-making scheme not unlike Amway.

    The following names are the most well-known leaders and apologists for the movement:

    Bill Johnson of Bethel Redding church in California
    Cindy Jacobs
    Lou Engle
    Kris Valloton
    John Bevere
    James Goll
    Mike Bickle of IHOP International House of Prayer Kansas City
    Dr. Brown of Line of Fire Radio, Askdrbrown.com, Brownsville Revival, and Fire School of Ministry. Dr. Michael Brown Dr. Michael L. Brown Michael Brown
    Naomi Dowdy (a regular on Brown's Line of Fire and speaker at his school of ministry)
    Sid Roth (TBN show It's Supernatural)
    Rick Joyner of Morningstar Ministries
    C. Peter Wagner (deceased, but was one of the leading teachers and proponents of the movement)
    Jen Johnson (Bill Johnson's daughter)
    Carl Lentz
    Steven Strang
    Lance Wallnau
    Graham Cooke
    Francis Frangipane
    John Paul Jackson (deceased)
    Wendy and Rory Alec (founders of NAR television media outlet God TV)
    Amanda Wells
    Lana Vawser
    Kong Hee and Sun Ho
    Brian Simmons
    Shawn Bolzer
    Che Ahn
    Jon Arnott
    Randy Clark
    Banning Liebscher of Jesus Culture music ministry
    Benny Hinn
    Steve Hill (deceased)
    John Kilpatrick
    Stacy Campbell
    Carl Lentz
    Steven Furtick (just held an "apostle/prophet" conference at his church)
    Brian Houston of Hillsong United music ministry
    Heidi Baker
    Bill Hamon
    Bob Jones (deceased)
    Paul Cain (deceased)
    Dutch Sheets
    Todd Bentley
    Patricia King
    Kim Clement (deceased)
    Brian Houston (Hillsong)
    Rod Parsley
    Steve Schultz (Elijah List website)
    John Wimber (deceased)
    Jennifer Leclair (Charisma Magazine Online)
    Rodney Howard Brown
    John Eckhardt
    Jack Hayford
    Yonggi Cho
    Reinhard Bonnke
    Chuck Pierce

    Most of these modern ministries have their roots in the false revivals of the 1990's such as the Toronto Blessing and the Brownsville Revival, two bombastic, chaotic, riotous events known for outrageous and weird manifestations such as the following:

    uncontrollable fits of laughter
    being knocked out cold
    people being pinned to the floor by an unseen force
    being drunk in the spirit
    thrashing uncontrollably
    rolling around on the floor
    writhing around on the floor
    shouting and screaming uncontrollably
    shaking uncontrollably
    making animal noises such as barking like a dog, roaring like a lion, rooster noises

    In general, these so-called revivals were marked by uncontrolled mayhem, all attributed to the Holy Spirit moving upon the people in attendance despite the fact that the Book of Galatians plainly states one aspect of the fruit of the Holy Spirit is self-control.

    Since there is no Biblical standard for how to judge whether a physical manifestation is from the Holy Spirit or a demon, accepting such behaviors blindly as a move of God is completely out of bounds of sound doctrine.

    Additionally, the weird manifestations which these movements are known for are actually widely seen in demonic religions such as Hinduism and new age and occult movements. And though the revivals of the 1990's are long gone, more subtle forms of these un-Biblical manifestations such as goosebumps, feelings of drunkeness, being knocked out and slain in the spirit, are still active in the movement and unsuspecting congregants are led into these demonic "worship experiences" during the music at the outset of church services.

    A final hallmark of the movement is its desire to "lay hands" on everyone and anyone. Bethel Redding has spread the practice of "fire tunnels" where people line up across from each other and others walk through between them and allow dozens of people randomly place their hands all over them in an attempt to "impart" something spiritual from one person to another.

    These impartations are a lot like how Hindu gurus lay hands on their followers to stimulate them into wild, fleshly manifestations which are clearly demonic in nature.

    There are countless testimonies of people who have come out from the New Apostolic Reformation on the internet. You will find some of them below:

    http://starscrowned.blogspot.com/2011/03/ihop-international-house-of-prayer-is.html?m=1

    http://beyondgrace.blogspot.com/2011/02/mother-of-all-ihop-casualties.html

    https://ihopcult.wordpress.com/

    https://ihopisnewage.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/an-ihop-horror-story-another-one/

    http://designofprovidence.blogspot.com/2013/02/an-interview-with-former-ihop-kc-member.html

    https://mkayla.wordpress.com/2011/07/16/an-escape-from-bethel-and-the-false-prophetic/

    https://kimolsen.net/2013/07/11/a-testimony-how-god-rescued-me-from-bill-johnsons-cult/

    http://bereanresearch.org/dominionism-nar/

    http://www.becarefulhowyouhear.com/ministries-exposed.html





     
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  2. pixelpusher

    pixelpusher Well-Known Member

    Back when the Brownsville Revival was going on, we were attending a charismatic church that actually got up a delegation of men from the church to attend. I refused to go, thankfully, in hindsight. Something just was not right. As I was researching it, the most apt description was "pandemonium", which of course means wild, loud, unruly, but more precisely, "place of all demons". It was not too long after that group returned, "changed", that our church broke up. Dave Hunt and TA McMahon's The Berean Call was instrumental in helping lead me out of that WOF toxic faith. Thanks for posting these lists, agtg.
     
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  3. SevenofNine1

    SevenofNine1 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I notice a lot of women and men preacher are becoming prophet or apostive I asking them who appointed these people who are appotenie creditanl in Cathoic church they have paperwork in LA Archidisoce and Vatican
     
  4. Everlasting Life

    Everlasting Life Through Faith in Jesus


    This sounds a lot like what they do in scientology.
     
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  5. SevenofNine1

    SevenofNine1 Well-Known Member

    More like kissing the ring with Vatican aka Godfather with the Pope making Vatican offer they can't refuse LOL!
     
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  6. Everlasting Life

    Everlasting Life Through Faith in Jesus

    Was thinking about this thread and had some similar thoughts. I was thinking about a phrase I've heard before: the church that prays together stays together. It sure does seem that this charasmatic "prayer" is being used to create common ground to pull churches back under the RCC umbrella. It's the velvet glove approach instead of the torture approach.
     
  7. jonshaff

    jonshaff Fellow Servant

    Good work guys, excellent thread!
     
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  8. SevenofNine1

    SevenofNine1 Well-Known Member

    Oh yeah there was movement among LA Ardisocoes before King of pedopllic prieests Roger Maghoney got his man busted for sexual abuse in minor just fizzle around the time in late 1990s in SO CAL I remember that
     
  9. Mike Evans

    Mike Evans Well-Known Member

    Are there any figures indicating how this movement is growing? C. Peter Wagoner was fond of boasting of its rapid growth (and takeover of churches). Some refer to it as the 'Christian Taliban'. I believe the false revival of Azusa St and then the Charismatic invasion of discernment-void mainline churches was designed to lead to the present situation today, ie. with this perverse version of the gospel now virtually the face of evangelical Christianity. Any reports on how Furtick's NAR sideshow went? Angus Buchan got a big crowd in SA but not sure if it was the hoped-for million. He is thick with Rick Joyner. S. Africa was greatly corrupted by early false prophet John G. Lake,who was very into the 'little gods' heresy and an alumni of Azusa st. A big influence on people like Hagin,Copeland, Bickle and Johnson.
     
  10. billiefan2000

    billiefan2000 Well-Known Member

    Dr Michael Brown I'm told denies this

    post exists

    Great post btw
     
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  11. lusisfall

    lusisfall New Member

    The only bits I would add to this excellent post would be to mention Lance Wallnau to the list of leaders core to the movement. He created the concept behind the 7 Mountains Mandate (spheres of influence, etc).

    It might also be helpful to reference Kundalini when bringing up the comparison to Hinduism and how many of these manifestations that occur are direct mirrors to what happens when the supposed coiled serpent at the base of the spine is awakened when gaining that spiritual experience or transference from those Eastern gurus / meetings through the laying on of hands, etc. Being directly influenced by the demonic realm would help explain why Bethel takes on an anything goes attitude and admits that their BSSM is a testing grounds of sorts, allowing the "spirit" to move unhindered.

    Many have written more regarding the kundalini connection, in particular Caryl Matriciana (wide is the gate DVD series & more), and also former Bethel adherant Andrew Strom, who has come out from under the movement to expose its deception, though still remaining a charismatic to some extent.
     
  12. Hol

    Hol Worships Him Staff Member

    That is a very good series by the late Caryl Matriciana.

    Welcome to Rapture Forums lusisfall!
     
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  13. Everlasting Life

    Everlasting Life Through Faith in Jesus

    Great video!!! So important for the church to watch out for this.

    Key question asked: Why are these "manifestations" seen in the 'christian' community so similar to the Eastern religions and Kundalini cults and yet not found in scripture? The "impartations" are exactly similar.

    Mr. Strom feels this is a false holy spirit (on a side note, I think the Jesus Calling books are in the same vein as this stuff, it constantly talks of supposedly Jesus presence and love like warm sunshine, etc. basking in love etc. )

    As far as not being found in scripture I know he means in terms of promoting this activity. These behaviors are actually descriptive of possessed individuals.

    So they brought the boy. But when the evil spirit saw Jesus, it threw the child into a violent convulsion, and he fell to the ground, writhing and foaming at the mouth. Mark 9:20
     
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  14. daygo

    daygo Well-Known Member

    That's a lot are these figures true 360,000 million.
     
  15. billiefan2000

    billiefan2000 Well-Known Member

    even the memes are warning folks of the NAR

    (such as a meme of Warren from Hollyoaks)

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    (and the meme of 2 folks from Unter Uns, a german soap)

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  16. billiefan2000

    billiefan2000 Well-Known Member

  17. SevenofNine1

    SevenofNine1 Well-Known Member

    WOW they got heavy hitter just imagine all star team for Football and Basketball
     

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