The Apostate New Apostolic Refomation: The fastest growing movement in the world.


The New Apostolic Reformation is an apostate Christian movement built upon a hyper-authorarian pyramid scheme structure. Each of these ministries has their own guru-like apostle that sits at the top of their ministry. But the whole movement, because of it's affiliations, really reflects a much larger global pyramid structure much like the Catholic Church which is built upon a world-wide spread of archdiocese ministries. In other words, the larger structure, because of their affiliations and lines of authority, reflects many pyramids building up into a larger pyramid.

While the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR for short) disguises itself as a mainline evangelical movement, it is actually under-girded by many extreme doctrines and practices that defy typical fundamental Christian beliefs.

For one thing, it believes that God has recently restored the office of apostle and prophet in the last 30 years. They believe these apostle and prophet leaders have the same authority as 1st century apostles and prophets whom God used to establish the church and write the New Testament. That means these men believe they are able to bring forth new doctrines and practices built upon "revelatory" experiences such as dreams, visions, and things they hear in their head presuming the Holy Spirit is instructing them.

This, of course, is very dangerous as it veers from the supremacy of scripture and places greater authority in the hands of wicked, sinful men.

Second, it has magnified the Spiritual gifts taught in the New Testament in such an unbalanced manner that it disturbs sound doctrine for the sake of any opportunity to display spiritual power. Basically, its desire for spiritual power is insatiable, and the people within the movement cast aside all Biblical warnings against occult practices to achieve such power.

Moreover, it's bent on spreading it's reach and control over the churched or unchurched across the globe. One of the most successful attempts to infiltrate non-NAR churches is through music ministries such as Jesus Culture and Hillsong. Both of those ministries are headed up by NAR apostles and because the music is easy on the ears and people want to sing along, they inevitably begin to look into those ministries further and wind up going deeper into the movement until they end up trapped in a local church affiliated with the movement.

Additionally, the NAR believe God wants them to take over the earth and prepare it so that Jesus may return. This drive has brought forth a doctrinal mandate to overtake 7 spheres of the world's cultures. This demented doctrine is known as the 7 mountain mandate. The mountains being: religion, education, business, family, government/military, arts and entertainment, and media.

And while that sounds like a wildly unachievable goal, the movement is actually making great inroads in these realms of culture across the globe.

Rather than spreading the gospel of Christ to expand, it works feverishly to construct organizations built upon deep, cultist relationships of submission and authority that ensnare and entrap its followers. One of the ways it expands itself is to train disciples through ministry schools.

Having attended Dr. Brown's Fire School of Ministry, I can give some insight into the cultist practices. Firstly, every semester starts with a mandatory weekend retreat which was nothing more than a tactic to soften people up to prepare them for their aberrant doctrines the students would soon encounter in their classrooms. The school program had a mandatory "deliverance" course where students had to confess every sin they've ever committed in their entire lives on a hard-copy document which was then submitted to the teacher leading the class. Students were continually pumped for information through weekly "accountability" questionnaires which delve into personal information about their daily lives. Students were not allowed to attend other church services without permission from the leadership. If a student questioned what was going on, they would be targeted and have a mid-level leader assigned to check on them frequently in order to exert a stronger arm of control over the student. Many of the leaders had no qualms about bullying a student to their face if they questioned things or noted un-Biblical practices. I experienced all of these things directly myself when I attended Fire School of Ministry (a video testimony to my experience at Fire School of Ministry can be found below).

The movement even has its own media propaganda arm known as Charisma magazine online which pushes "articles" which exalt the leaders of the movement and their demented doctrines. Moreover, they regularly feature articles that subtly berate and goad the movement's followers not to question the leaders and to submit for the greater good of the movement. All of this is dressed up in the guise of giving all to Jesus. Meanwhile, it is the earthly kingdoms of these men and women at the top of the pyramid schemes which benefit from such deep, blind allegiance.

They work subtle subversion towards mainstream evangelicalism through mass-media, as well, approaching the general public with the disguise of a mainline Christian conservative. This can be seen in movies such as War Room which was marketed as a typical Christian movie about prayer, but in fact pushes extreme ideas that are reflective of contemplative, emergent heresies as well as un-Biblical NAR strategic spiritual warfare doctrines.

Also, this subtle subversion can be seen in likes of Dr. Brown through his prolific article writing spread through conservative websites. Additionally, his radio show The Line of Fire is aired in cities across the nation and his persona is one as a conservative Christian even though his actual beliefs are extreme and in line with the fringe, ultra-charismatic NAR doctrines.

He broaches these subjects subtly on his show, often acting as though he isn't really an adherent, as if it's merely a point of discussion when, in fact, he is feeding anyone who listens NAR Kool-aid in small amounts until the notions infect their own belief systems and they are drawn into the delusional movement themselves.

The biggest offenders leading this movement all have ministry schools to train underlings and expand their pyramid scheme as those students rise up in their own positions and draw their own followers. Since tithing (giving one tenth of one's income to the church) is one of the fundamental doctrines, this means money gets funneled upward along the lines of authority the pyramid structures maintain. This is a clear money-making scheme not unlike Amway.

The following names are the most well-known leaders and apologists for the movement:

Bill Johnson of Bethel Redding church in California
Cindy Jacobs
Lou Engle
Kris Valloton
John Bevere
James Goll
Mike Bickle of IHOP International House of Prayer Kansas City
Dr. Brown of Line of Fire Radio,, Brownsville Revival, and Fire School of Ministry. Dr. Michael Brown Dr. Michael L. Brown Michael Brown
Naomi Dowdy (a regular on Brown's Line of Fire and speaker at his school of ministry)
Sid Roth (TBN show It's Supernatural)
Rick Joyner of Morningstar Ministries
C. Peter Wagner (deceased, but was one of the leading teachers and proponents of the movement)
Jen Johnson (Bill Johnson's daughter)
Carl Lentz
Steven Strang
Lance Wallnau
Graham Cooke
Francis Frangipane
John Paul Jackson (deceased)
Wendy and Rory Alec (founders of NAR television media outlet God TV)
Amanda Wells
Lana Vawser
Kong Hee and Sun Ho
Brian Simmons
Shawn Bolzer
Che Ahn
Jon Arnott
Randy Clark
Banning Liebscher of Jesus Culture music ministry
Benny Hinn
Steve Hill (deceased)
John Kilpatrick
Stacy Campbell
Carl Lentz
Steven Furtick (just held an "apostle/prophet" conference at his church)
Brian Houston of Hillsong United music ministry
Heidi Baker
Bill Hamon
Bob Jones (deceased)
Paul Cain (deceased)
Dutch Sheets
Todd Bentley
Patricia King
Kim Clement (deceased)
Brian Houston (Hillsong)
Rod Parsley
Steve Schultz (Elijah List website)
John Wimber (deceased)
Jennifer Leclair (Charisma Magazine Online)
Rodney Howard Brown
John Eckhardt
Jack Hayford
Yonggi Cho
Reinhard Bonnke
Chuck Pierce

Most of these modern ministries have their roots in the false revivals of the 1990's such as the Toronto Blessing and the Brownsville Revival, two bombastic, chaotic, riotous events known for outrageous and weird manifestations such as the following:

uncontrollable fits of laughter
being knocked out cold
people being pinned to the floor by an unseen force
being drunk in the spirit
thrashing uncontrollably
rolling around on the floor
writhing around on the floor
shouting and screaming uncontrollably
shaking uncontrollably
making animal noises such as barking like a dog, roaring like a lion, rooster noises

In general, these so-called revivals were marked by uncontrolled mayhem, all attributed to the Holy Spirit moving upon the people in attendance despite the fact that the Book of Galatians plainly states one aspect of the fruit of the Holy Spirit is self-control.

Since there is no Biblical standard for how to judge whether a physical manifestation is from the Holy Spirit or a demon, accepting such behaviors blindly as a move of God is completely out of bounds of sound doctrine.

Additionally, the weird manifestations which these movements are known for are actually widely seen in demonic religions such as Hinduism and new age and occult movements. And though the revivals of the 1990's are long gone, more subtle forms of these un-Biblical manifestations such as goosebumps, feelings of drunkeness, being knocked out and slain in the spirit, are still active in the movement and unsuspecting congregants are led into these demonic "worship experiences" during the music at the outset of church services.

A final hallmark of the movement is its desire to "lay hands" on everyone and anyone. Bethel Redding has spread the practice of "fire tunnels" where people line up across from each other and others walk through between them and allow dozens of people randomly place their hands all over them in an attempt to "impart" something spiritual from one person to another.

These impartations are a lot like how Hindu gurus lay hands on their followers to stimulate them into wild, fleshly manifestations which are clearly demonic in nature.

There are countless testimonies of people who have come out from the New Apostolic Reformation on the internet. You will find some of them below:

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Back when the Brownsville Revival was going on, we were attending a charismatic church that actually got up a delegation of men from the church to attend. I refused to go, thankfully, in hindsight. Something just was not right. As I was researching it, the most apt description was "pandemonium", which of course means wild, loud, unruly, but more precisely, "place of all demons". It was not too long after that group returned, "changed", that our church broke up. Dave Hunt and TA McMahon's The Berean Call was instrumental in helping lead me out of that WOF toxic faith. Thanks for posting these lists, agtg.


Yeah I notice a lot of women and men preacher are becoming prophet or apostive I asking them who appointed these people who are appotenie creditanl in Cathoic church they have paperwork in LA Archidisoce and Vatican

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The school program had a mandatory "deliverance" course where students had to confess every sin they've ever committed in their entire lives on a hard-copy document which was then submitted to the teacher leading the class. Students were continually pumped for information through weekly "accountability" questionnaires which delve into personal information about our daily lives. Students were not allowed to attend other church services without permission from the leadership. If a student questioned what was going on, they would be targeted and have a mid-level leader assigned to check on them frequently in order to exert a stronger arm of control over the student. Many of the leaders had no qualms about bullying you to your face if you questioned things or noted un-Biblical practices. I experienced all of these things directly myself when I attended Fire School of Ministry (a video testimony to my experience at Fire School of Ministry can be found below).

This sounds a lot like what they do in scientology.

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Was thinking about this thread and had some similar thoughts. I was thinking about a phrase I've heard before: the church that prays together stays together. It sure does seem that this charasmatic "prayer" is being used to create common ground to pull churches back under the RCC umbrella. It's the velvet glove approach instead of the torture approach.


Oh yeah there was movement among LA Ardisocoes before King of pedopllic prieests Roger Maghoney got his man busted for sexual abuse in minor just fizzle around the time in late 1990s in SO CAL I remember that

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Are there any figures indicating how this movement is growing? C. Peter Wagoner was fond of boasting of its rapid growth (and takeover of churches). Some refer to it as the 'Christian Taliban'. I believe the false revival of Azusa St and then the Charismatic invasion of discernment-void mainline churches was designed to lead to the present situation today, ie. with this perverse version of the gospel now virtually the face of evangelical Christianity. Any reports on how Furtick's NAR sideshow went? Angus Buchan got a big crowd in SA but not sure if it was the hoped-for million. He is thick with Rick Joyner. S. Africa was greatly corrupted by early false prophet John G. Lake,who was very into the 'little gods' heresy and an alumni of Azusa st. A big influence on people like Hagin,Copeland, Bickle and Johnson.

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Great video!!! So important for the church to watch out for this.

Key question asked: Why are these "manifestations" seen in the 'christian' community so similar to the Eastern religions and Kundalini cults and yet not found in scripture? The "impartations" are exactly similar.

Mr. Strom feels this is a false holy spirit (on a side note, I think the Jesus Calling books are in the same vein as this stuff, it constantly talks of supposedly Jesus presence and love like warm sunshine, etc. basking in love etc. )

As far as not being found in scripture I know he means in terms of promoting this activity. These behaviors are actually descriptive of possessed individuals.

So they brought the boy. But when the evil spirit saw Jesus, it threw the child into a violent convulsion, and he fell to the ground, writhing and foaming at the mouth. Mark 9:20


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even the memes are warning folks of the NAR

(such as a meme of Warren from Hollyoaks)


(and the meme of 2 folks from Unter Uns, a german soap)

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WOW they got heavy hitter just imagine all star team for Football and Basketball


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The New Apostolic Reformation And Why It Is A Threat.
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes or figs from thistles? So every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.” -Matthew 7:15-20

The New Apostolic Reformation is the fastest growing sect of so called Christianity in the professing Church today.

Todd Friel, host of Wretched Radio, puts their number at upwards of 369 million people currently involved with the movement.

The NAR is a theological evolution largely formed and influenced by the Charismatic and Pentecostal church movements.

That being said, not all Charismatics or Pentecostals hold to this doctrine.

The NAR is fairly new to the scene, having first appeared in the late 1990’s.

The term New Apostolic Reformation was coined by self proclaimed prophet C. Peter Wagner,

who now has a school in Pasadena, California: the Wagner Leadership Institute, which helps to raise up and train leaders to join and guide the NAR.

Because this is not an official organization, they do not necessarily intend to take people out of their own churches.

Rather, their methodology is designed to teach individuals their doctrine and theology and in return those individuals help to teach and disciple others with what they have learned, taking it into their own homes, churches, and social circles.

So the NAR is not a stand alone denomination,

it has no authority structure set in place

which results in the fact

that they have no model for church discipline or biblical discernment of any kind when it comes to the practices of people within this movement.

There is also absolutely no room in this movement for biblical accountability or criticism, because extra biblical revelation sets the precedence for what is being taught.

One of the major foundations for this movement is based on a non-traditional interpretation of Ephesians 4:11

And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers.

They take this and use it to promote a view point known as the Five Fold Doctrine or Five Fold Ministry.

They believe that the office of apostle and prophet are still open today,

and specifically that the office of apostleship was re-opened in 2001. Another one of their major themes is what is know as Dominion Theology.

This teaches that there are seven cultural mountains to be conquered:

business, government, media, arts and entertainment, education, family, and religion, to help bring back the reign and second coming of Christ.

This is something that is wildly popular among their youth, as it gives them a sense of importance and purpose as they begin an attempt to conquer these seven mountains with the intention of rising to positions of prominence and power within them.

It also involves spiritual warfare in the sense that believers have power over demons and are able to wage war, bind demons, and cast them out of certain areas or cities that the NAR is attempting to conquer.

To help better understand some of their beliefs, C. Peter Wagner has listed some of the main differences

between the doctrines that the conservative Christian Church would hold to and what NAR Doctrine revolves around:

Apostolic governance – The Apostle Paul’s assertion that Jesus appoints apostles within his church continues to this day.

The office of the prophet – There is within the Church a role and function for present-day prophets.

Dominionism – “When Jesus came, He brought the kingdom of God and He expects His kingdom-minded people to take whatever action is needed to push back the long-standing kingdom of Satan and bring the peace and prosperity of His kingdom here on earth.

Theocracy – Not to be confused with theocratic government but rather the goal to have “kingdom-minded people” in all areas of society.

There are seven areas identified specifically: religion, family, education, government, media, arts & entertainment, and business.

Extra-biblical revelation – There is available to all believers the ability to hear from God. “

The one major rule governing any new revelation from God is that it cannot contradict what has already been written in the Bible. It may supplement it, however.”

Supernatural signs and wonders – Signs and wonders such as healing, demonic deliverance, and confirmed prophecies accompany the move of God.

Relational structures – Church governance has no formal structure but rather is by relational and voluntary alignment to apostles.

“See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.” -Colossians 2:8

Some of the big names associated with this movement are Bill Johnson the lead pastor of Bethel Church

and co-founder of Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry in Redding Ca.

Jesus Culture, a highly popular band in the Contemporary Christian Music genre also out of Bethel Church.

C. Peter Wagner former professor with Fuller Theological Seminary and chancellor of Wagner Leadership Institute.

General Mike Bickle (he was apparently given the title of general by God during a visit to heaven) founder and leader of the International House Of Prayer.

Lance Wallnau among many things he is known for being the most active preacher on Twitter’s live-streaming app Periscope.

Chuck Pierce self proclaimed prophet and president of Glory of Zion Ministries.

Che Ahn lead pastor of Harvest Rock Church in Pasadena, California.

As well as Dutch Sheets, Todd Bentley, Rick Joyner, and Georgian and Winnie Banov to name a few.

This is not by any means an inclusive list, but helps to lend understanding as to some of the bigger names out there that are pushing this movement.

This movement is largely spread and funded by concerts, youth conferences, and events that draw massive crowds. These events are wildly popular among the youth in this nation.

They have obtained a vast influence and popularity in our culture and you may even sing some of their songs in your church. I believe that as faithful slaves to our God and Father and the Lord Jesus Christ we must put distance between ourselves and those who peddle compromised and even sometimes blasphemous doctrines.

John MacArthur has said this regarding the confrontation of false doctrines:

“First, if you are to be a faithful prophet in a nation in decline and crisis, you must expose false religion where it exists.

This is not a time for tolerance, this is not a time for embracing everybody and saying it doesn’t really matter what you believe as long as you follow your heart. L

isten, this world is full of damning false religion.

I have been accused throughout the years of being intolerant and I accept that as a compliment.

Of course I’m intolerant. I am as intolerant as God is, as Christ is, as the Bible is of anything that damns peoples souls while promising them heaven.

It is a direct message. We’re not just talking about making people feel good, we confront lies.”

In light of these truths, stop endorsing these people as legitimate leaders of the faith,

stop using their music, and stop acting out of a lack of concern or cowardice,

unwilling to confront these people and their lies from your pulpit and warn the flock with which you have been entrusted.

We need to be willing to evaluate everything that we encounter.

Likewise, let us be committed to the personal study of scripture so that we may be able to discern properly when we are confronted with anyone or anything that claims to be teaching biblical doctrine.

May we be committed no matter what the cost to our God and Savior.

“If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.” -2 John 10-11

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History of the NAR cult infiltrating the marketplace.

By churchwatcher / July 26, 2017 / New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)

Since the beginnings of the New Order of the Latter Rain cult, Branham’s influence has left its mark on many in this New Order – that is, Apostles and leaders of the New Apostolic Reformation.

Not just in the church but in ‘marketplace ministries’.

Os Hillman gives us a fascinating history of the development on how this cult tried to influence the culture back in the 1950s.

In saying this, there are some things worth noting in this video that confirm the NOLR influence from 1951 onwards:

  1. His mention of FGBMFI in 1951 (read excerpt at the end of this article to see how it is deeply connected to the Latter Rain cult).
  2. He pits the Christian gospel against the NAR gospel: “So all throughout this period we see from 1930 to 1977 a focus on evangelism to the marketplace. These men [inaudible] came to know Christ. And when they would go back in their churches and their was really no place for them. And so they felt like they were second class citizens. And that’s why so many of the uh, marketplace ministry groups begin. Because they didn’t feel like they were being validated for what, you know, in how to bring Christ into their world. And so it was during this time that we would oftern hear people say, ‘I’ll never do business with a Christian’. And I’m sure you’ve heard that before. But the reason is that it was all the ‘Gospel of Salvation’ instead of the ‘Gospel of the Kingdom’.” [2:16]
  3. Hillman mentions how the 1990s focused on ‘Social Transformation’ and how Henry Blackaby, Billy Graham (BOLR/NAR adherent) and NAR Apostles such as C. Peter Wagner and Ed Silvoso helped shape the NAR’s influence in the marketplace.
  4. Hillman’s language on the 7 mountain mandate helps people identify what the NAR also call it: “We have been hearing the terms ‘reclaim the seven mountains of culture’. And this is an initiative that I believe, is a season of the Lord that we’re in right now because we’ve discovered that these seven spheres of culture – arts and entertainment, business, education, family, government, media and religion – these are the seven spheres that most define culture. This awareness came as far back as 1974 when Bill Bright and Lorren Cunningham both got a word from the Lord that said these are the seven mind-moulders, or gates, or mountains that define culture.” [5:34]

Source: Os Hillman, History of the Faith at Work Movement, Vimeo,, 29/03/2010. (Accessed 15/07/2017.)


FGBMFI stands for Full Gospel Business Men’s Fellowship International. It has influences and roots in the theology and associations of William Branham and the New Order of the Latter Rain (NOLR) cult.

In other words, what Hillman is giving us is the history and development how the NAR cult has been infiltrating societies on a global scale.

John Weaver in his book ‘The New Apostolic Reformation: History of a Modern Charismatic Movement’, examines the link between FGBMFI and the NOLR cult. (Note – Weaver sometimes writes FGMBFI.)

“According to James Collins, Branham “worked closely” with the FGBMFI leader Demos Shakarian during the height of his early revivals (Collins 27).

Indeed, Branham was the keynote speaker at a number of FGBMFI meetings during the initial years of that ministry, and was instrumental in the creation of several chapters of the organization (Tallman 199-200).

In turn the FGBMFI also at times supported Branham… The FGBMFI, which played a crucial role in kick-starting the Charismatic Renewal, in many ways shared Branham’s skepticism about the benefits of denominationalism, though to a moderate degree…

The FGBMFI was aimed at church laity, allowing laity to translate the message of the Healing Revival to the more refined environment of a “hotel ballroom or a restaurant.” Yet, in significant ways, the message was the same. People spoke of their healings or the deliverances that they had undergone. The FGBMFI also played a large role in the promotion of the “faith teachers” (Zeigler 653; see also Harrel Jr. 148). It is plausible that some of the doctrinal innovations pursued by the WOF movement might have had their origins in interaction with Branham’s teachings, whose influence over both the WOF and modern deliverance movements was considerable.

It is impossible to assess the degree to which Demos Shakarian, the founder of FGBMFI, borrowed from Branham and the Latter Rain movement. The leading chronicler of the FGBMFI, Matthew Tallman, points out that there are tantalizing connections between the development of the FGMBFI [sic] and the Latter Rain movement.

A number of significant players in the formation of the Latter Rain movement, including T.L. Osborne, Jack Coe, A.A. Allen, and David Duplessis also were instrumental in the formation and growth of the FGMBFI [sic] as well (Tallman 188-189).

Demos Chakarian also invited Carlton Spencer, the then-president of Elim Bible Institute to a “convention in Washington in 1953,” which as Riss points out,

highlights the “Latter Rain influence upon the early development of the Charismatic Renewal (Riss 140). Tallman points out that the perception of the Latter Rain movement that “older Pentecostal denominations had become formalized and spiritually hardened resonated with the ecclesiological and pneumatological hermeneutic of Shakarian (Tallman 190).

What is clear is that Shakarian’s particular ecclesiological commitments were able to mesh with Latter Rain and Branhamite doctrine in surprising ways.”

Source: John Weaver, The New Apostolic Reformation: History of a Modern Charismatic Movement, McFarland & Company, Inc., Publishers: NC, Published 2016.


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Why NAR Apostles accept ‘Apostolic’ titles but appear uncomfortable wearing them publically?

By churchwatcher on October 30, 2017

In an article titled, ‘Bill Johnson blatantly lies to ChristianityToday‘, we looked at how NAR Apostles deny or even lie about their apostolic titles or offices.

We quoted NAR Apostle David Cartledge in that article (from the above book) stating,

“Almost all Australian apostolic ministries are quite emphatic that they will not use the title ‘apostle’.

While they are usually recognised as others as apostles and are frequently referred to as such by the churches they visit, I do not know of one who personally uses ‘apostle’ as his or her personal title.

In fact most are more comfortable with no titles at all, and prefer to be known by their first name.

Brian Houston is the National President, and his attitude would be echoed by all of the current Assemblies of God leaders:

“Credibility and authority never come with a title. I am quite comfortable with being called Brian.”

Source: David Cartledge, The Apostolic Revolution, Australia: McPherson’s Printing Group, Published 2000. pg. 393.

Here is an article where an NAR Apostle talks about his ‘apostolic’ commissioning and how he uses the title. The most important piece of information to glean from this article is this:

In the white middle-class American churches, we are afraid of the title of “Apostle”. I say this specifically because I have traveled far and wide; and when I leave America, people are not as afraid of this term, and I have been to over a dozen African American churches here in the states which are completely uninhibited by the use of “Apostle.” Our white middle-class suburban churches have made a mistake by disregarding the term “apostle.”

The point is that NAR Apostles like ‘Jonathan Jim Welton’ know that Christian churches who hold to the authority of God’s Word, will not tolerate people who usurp the authority of God’s Word.

This is because many Christians today still hold to the teachings of the Reformation, specifically Sola Scriptura (God’s Word alone) which does not tolerate the Roman Catholic doctrine of ‘Ex Cathedra’ (from the chair). ‘Ex Cathedra’ is a Roman Catholic doctrine that Protestants opposed because this elevated the offices of men and gave them divine prerogative above God and His Word.

In other words, these men who want the titles but appear uncomfortable acknowledging the title. They want to be recognized by their own as ‘apostles’, while making inroads into Christianity without these controversial titles attached to their names.

However, they are not to be tolerated in Christ’s church and as Paul says, “purge the wicked from among you.” [1Cor 5:13]. What is guiding them to operate this way, misleading multitudes of Christians around the world, certainly not the Spirit of Truth

God is not the author of confusion.

Yet these frauds are claiming to be ‘apostles’ to some while hiding their ‘apostolic ministries’ from others.

The Apostles of scripture did not hide their apostolic titles. Consider these words of Apostle Paul before King Festus.

“I am not out of my mind, most excellent Festus, but I am speaking true and rational words. For the king knows about these things, and to him I speak boldly. For I am persuaded that none of these things has escaped his notice, for this has not been done in a corner.” Acts 26:25-26

Not one of these ‘apostles’ in the NAR speak with integrity before public authority the way the actual Apostles did.


I have gone by a lot of titles in ministry in the last few years: Author, Itinerate, Prophet, Seer, Teacher, Theologian, Professor, and Doctor.

In the last 18 months, I have received multiple prophetic words from trustworthy individuals stating that I am called as an apostle, but that I was in a waiting pattern until leadership in the Body of Christ determined to commission me. This was confirmation of what the Lord had been speaking to me.

On March 14th (sorry this update is late!), two recognized apostles: Robert Muncy and Dr. Harold Eberle both laid hands on me and commissioned me as a “sent one” into my calling. Over the next week, I experienced three types of interactions: people gave me confused looks and asked a bunch of questions, I’ve also had people congratulate me, and I’ve had others say, “man, that was long overdue!”

I wanted to write to bring clarity on a few things.

In the white middle-class American churches, we are afraid of the title of “Apostle.” I say this specifically because I have traveled far and wide; and when I leave America, people are not as afraid of this term, and I have been to over a dozen African American churches here in the states which are completely uninhibited by the use of “Apostle.” Our white middle-class suburban churches have made a mistake by disregarding the term “apostle.”

In the New Testament, the term “pastor” appears ONE TIME! It’s only use is in Ephesians 4:11. Whereas the word “apostle” appears over 120 times and there are 22 named apostles in the NT. Biblically we see a lot more apostles and a lot less pastors, but that’s none of my business

I am not going to get into an in-depth study on apostles here, yet I do want to clarify that I am not awkward about the term because I am clear on the function.

I understand from the NT that the higher the gift of leadership, the more feet that leader is called to wash.

As a Prophet I washed a lot of feet in the Body of Christ, yet as an Apostle, I am handed more rags, a few more buckets and thousands more feet are lined up for me.

I recognize that I stepped into the function of serving the Body of Christ apostolically when I started Welton Academy in September 2013.

Yet after a waiting period from the Holy Spirit, an official time of recognition arrived.

This is incredibly biblical. We see a similar pattern in Paul’s life.

The traveling team of Barnabas and Saul were traveling around the early church.

When they spent time in Antioch, the Prophets and Teachers there determined to lay hands on Saul and commission him as an apostle.

“Now in the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon called Niger, Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen (who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch) and Saul.

While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” So after they had fasted and prayed, they placed their hands on them and sent them off.” Acts 13:1-3

After this commissioning, Saul was then called Paul, and Paul’s name began to always appear before Barnabas’ name, rather than Barnabas being listed first. This signals a significant shift in the leadership gifting on Paul’s life. Impartation occurs by the laying on of hands and a release of grace empowerment occurs as well.

Although I am not bashful about the apostolic, and about operating in its function, I am actually a very reserved person. I don’t like titles in general, and I would encourage you not to use titles when it isn’t needed. When it is needful is when it helps bring clarity.

All that to say, please don’t call me Apostle Welton.

It’s weird, people aren’t used to it and it’s not typically helpful.

My name is Jonathan, call me Jonathan; I know that people are trying to be respectful when they put a title before my name when introducing me. But if you respect me, I’ll feel it, even without the awkward title.

Please excuse me, I have some feet to wash.

Be blessed.

Author, Itinerate, Prophet, Seer, Teacher, Theologian, Professor, Doctor, Apostle Jonathan Jim Welton the First


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the NAR turned the Different Strokes tv show theme
and turned into a blueprint for their theology
why do I say that?

i.e. what maybe right for you, may not be right for some
(sums up the NAR 's justifying a lot of false teachers)

that and the line from the 80s tv show
Everybody's got a special kind of story
(seems to also be a huge doctrine of the NAR.
i.e. personal experiences trump biblical truth)

just my observation,

plus DS has been playing on local tv station here in my town as of late every morning

and it got me thinking that the 80's tv show theme song

has parallels to the NAR 's way of thinking