Taipei says China’s military drills appear to simulate attack on Taiwan

[Chris]

Taipei says China’s military drills appear to simulate attack on Taiwan
Warning comes as multiple Chinese warships and aircraft cross median line of the Taiwan Strait; Taiwanese army detects 4 drones in vicinity of offshore county
By AP
6 August 2022

BEIJING — Taiwan said Saturday that China’s military drills appear to simulate an attack on the self-ruled island, after multiple Chinese warships and aircraft crossed the median line of the Taiwan Strait. Taiwan’s armed forces issued an alert, dispatched air and naval patrols around the island, and activated land-based missile systems in response to the situation, Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense said on Twitter.

China launched live-fire military drills following US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s trip to Taiwan earlier this week, saying that her visit violated the “one-China” policy. China sees the island as a breakaway province to be annexed by force if necessary, and considers visits to Taiwan by foreign officials as recognizing its sovereignty.

more............ https://www.timesofisrael.com/taipe...y-drills-appear-to-simulate-attack-on-taiwan/

 

[Chris]

I'm not going to be surprised if China makes a move on Taiwan. It sure does seem like it is just a matter of time. No one in the world fears Joe Biden.

 

[MapleLeaf]

And Russia was "just doing exercises" near the border of Ukraine.

 

[daygo]

I'm not going to be surprised if China makes a move on Taiwan. It sure does seem like it is just a matter of time. No one in the world fears Joe Biden.

Happen at some point in time Chris.

 

[ByFaithIFly]

I'm not going to be surprised if China makes a move on Taiwan. It sure does seem like it is just a matter of time. No one in the world fears Joe Biden.

Chris; Do you think that China will " blockade " Taiwan cutting off all food, and supplies and try to starve them out without firing a shot ???

 

[MapleLeaf]

I'm not ready to jump the gun and say what they will or will not do at this point. People are often too ready to say "the time is now" and then nothing happens. We all know China wants Taiwan and they are patient. It's only the west that has the attention span of a flea. I think China is doing another 'testing the waters' right now. The States is still too strong for them even in its current state. I think the months leading up to the mid-terms will tell more of the tale. China may be waiting to see how it looks to be going. If they think the Republicans will sweep then they might strike while they can as they know it's still a lot of RINOs so the retaliation won't be as bad but still better to do it BEFORE they can do anything at all. You know, just hope the RINOs are willing to look the other way if it has been several months by the time they actually can do anything. Again, the western attention span of a flea might have moved on by then. But if it looks like the DEMs might win they could hold off until afterwards.

Those are just my thoughts. And anything could happen on their own homefront too. Things are not going awesome there either. I see their massive, continual city-wide lockdowns as an act of desperation than real health control or even a position of strength.

 

[NewWine2020]

Taipei says China’s military drills appear to simulate attack on Taiwan
Warning comes as multiple Chinese warships and aircraft cross median line of the Taiwan Strait; Taiwanese army detects 4 drones in vicinity of offshore county
By AP
6 August 2022

BEIJING — Taiwan said Saturday that China’s military drills appear to simulate an attack on the self-ruled island, after multiple Chinese warships and aircraft crossed the median line of the Taiwan Strait. Taiwan’s armed forces issued an alert, dispatched air and naval patrols around the island, and activated land-based missile systems in response to the situation, Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense said on Twitter.

China launched live-fire military drills following US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s trip to Taiwan earlier this week, saying that her visit violated the “one-China” policy. China sees the island as a breakaway province to be annexed by force if necessary, and considers visits to Taiwan by foreign officials as recognizing its sovereignty.

more............ https://www.timesofisrael.com/taipe...y-drills-appear-to-simulate-attack-on-taiwan/

What if, instead, the impression was that the Chinese PLA was, in fact, conducting drills designed to simulate an attack on...Ukraine? (Just to mess with the heads of military intelligence in the USA and Taiwan?

In all seriousness though...I just don't think the Chinese will try it because it would be like the USA hypothetically launching a land invasion of the Japanese home islands at the tail end of WW2. I think the vast majority of the Taiwanese (descendant of the remnants of the Chinese nationalists who lost the Chinese Civil War) would fight to the death and/or require China to essentially devastate the island to the point it's completely destroyed and worthless to them. They need the Taiwanese infrastructure functional and intact or it's not very valuable to them.

There was an article I read a while back that talked about the difficulties the Chinese would face in a hypothetical seaborne invasion and it looked like the Chinese could expect casualties that would make the Russian experience in Ukraine to date look like a pub brawl.

Modern warfare and weapons systems are unbelievably lethal and the Taiwanese have been fortifying their island for many years. Like the Israeli's and the South Koreans, their military is very professional and takes training seriously as it has had a potential invader glaring at them for virtually it's entire history.

The smart thing for China would be to starve them/deprive Taiwan of raw materials to the point they voluntarily capitulate. Not going to happen as long as the US Navy exists unless we get a presidential admin in power that's even worse than Brandon.

 

[NewWine2020]

I'm not ready to jump the gun and say what they will or will not do at this point. People are often too ready to say "the time is now" and then nothing happens. We all know China wants Taiwan and they are patient. It's only the west that has the attention span of a flea. I think China is doing another 'testing the waters' right now. The States is still too strong for them even in its current state. I think the months leading up to the mid-terms will tell more of the tale. China may be waiting to see how it looks to be going. If they think the Republicans will sweep then they might strike while they can as they know it's still a lot of RINOs so the retaliation won't be as bad but still better to do it BEFORE they can do anything at all. You know, just hope the RINOs are willing to look the other way if it has been several months by the time they actually can do anything. Again, the western attention span of a flea might have moved on by then. But if it looks like the DEMs might win they could hold off until afterwards.

Those are just my thoughts. And anything could happen on their own homefront too. Things are not going awesome there either. I see their massive, continual city-wide lockdowns as an act of desperation than real health control or even a position of strength.

"It's only the west that has the attention span of a flea."

100% I agree. I really dislike this trait of my Western brethren. It's not even due to modern tech/Social media; westerners conception of history and the ability to bide their time in order to play the long game has always been negligible.

This is one reason we have so much trouble dealing effectively with cultures in the Middle East and Asia.

 

[MapleLeaf]

"It's only the west that has the attention span of a flea."

100% I agree. I really dislike this trait of my Western brethren. It's not even due to modern tech/Social media; westerners conception of history and the ability to bide their time in order to play the long game has always been negligible.

This is one reason we have so much trouble dealing effectively with cultures in the Middle East and Asia.

It also makes it hard to wake people up. You had Huxley, Orwell and even CS Lewis warning where the society was headed but because it didn't happen in the next 10 minutes people thought they were just reading into things.

 

[NewWine2020]

It also makes it hard to wake people up. You had Huxley, Orwell and even CS Lewis warning where the society was headed but because it didn't happen in the next 10 minutes people thought they were just reading into things.

True. If I were a betting man, I'd lay $$ down on Huxley's version of dystopia being where we're headed at present.

 

[MapleLeaf]

True. If I were a betting man, I'd lay $$ down on Huxley's version of dystopia being where we're headed at present.

I have seen several blogs citing Lewis' "This Hideous Strength" as being the most prescient. And considering he has the Christian perspective it certainly has that ring of truth. I still need to read Huxley but I recently read "This Hideous Strength" for the first time this past year and I remember being shocked at how familiar and recognizable it was. I actually felt the same way reading his "The Last Battle" from the Narnia series. The villain says "You think freedom means doing whatever you like but it doesn't! It means doing whatever we tell you".

 

[NewWine2020]

I have seen several blogs citing Lewis' "This Hideous Strength" as being the most prescient. And considering he has the Christian perspective it certainly has that ring of truth. I still need to read Huxley but I recently read "This Hideous Strength" for the first time this past year and I remember being shocked at how familiar and recognizable it was. I actually felt the same way reading his "The Last Battle" from the Narnia series. The villain says "You think freedom means doing whatever you like but it doesn't! It means doing whatever we tell you".

WOW, those are some really good points MapleLeaf.

That Hideous Strength is amazing, all the characters from the "National institute of Coordinated Experiments" would fit right into the modern world, especially the World Economic Forum.

As a youngster I thought the book was really, really strange (just because all of the Lewis space Trilogy" series was so very different than the Narnia series I grew up reading, and the way Lewis tied the Arthurian mythos of Britain into it) but as a middle aged person, I really appreciate the Space Trilogy and That Hideous Strength is, in my opinion, by far the best of them.

One of the characters (Dr. Cecil DimbleI think?) has a scene where he is speaking with his wife about how the world seems to be "narrowing" and dividing into more and more rigidly defined camps of good and evil, a time is fast coming where it is/will be impossible to take a "neutral" stance or sit things out; all of them must choose the living God or his opposite.

The times we are in feel very, very much like that; more each day in fact.

C.S. Lewis predicted the disgusting cult of "transhumanism" decades before it became a thing.

 

[MapleLeaf]

The good guys having a friend who was a bear was a bit odd. LOL Then the bad guys kidnapped their bear. It was a strange trilogy. It also showed the range of Lewis' writing styles and capabilities. I have seen people criticize Narnia for being "too simplistic" but going over the series with my kids I noticed how much he fit into as little words as possible. It is a gift to be that concise. Every word had to be intentionally used.