Spiritual Signs of the Last Days

[Stevelw]

I think the scripture you quoted is talking about those who believe the lie, and that lie being satans claim he is god. Satan makes that claim at the mid point of the 7 year tribulation. We also know from Rev 7 and 20, that some will still be saved, even during the second half of the tribulation which is referred to as the great tribulation. Finally, we know many new believers from all nations will survive the entire 7 year tribulation and will be the sheep mentioned below in the final Sheep and Goat judgement conducted by Jesus.

The biggest harvest ever of new believers will be during the tribulation, and most of those will come during the first half.


Revelation 7
9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” 11 All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying:

“Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom,
Thanksgiving and honor and power and might,
Be to our God forever and ever.
Amen.”
13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?”

14 And I said to him, ”Sir, you know.”

So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

Matthew 25
31 “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdomprepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in;36 I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’

Yep, I agree there will be a big harvest and I’m greatly thankful. However, anyone on this side or the other side of the rapture who continues to reject Jesus going into the Great Tribulation is taking a big gamble which is the point. According to the scripture I quoted, why do they believe the lie? Verse 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, Verse 10 indicates that they have been presented the truth, but continue to reject it. If one won‘t accept Him now, what guarantee is there that one will in the midst of such deception and lying wonders during the Great Tribulation? So get saved now! This is the point I was trying to make, but by your response I made the point obviously very poorly.

 

[Stevelw]

I have heard that also....that if you had heard and rejected the Gospel pre Rapture that you can't be saved during the trib.

I see your point and @Andy C 's point.
I hope Andy is right on this one.. I have so many lost loved ones and some have heard the true Gospel. Others are Catholic.
I pray all our family members are saved pre Rapture♡♡♡

I personally don’t believe that they can’t be saved. I think Andy and I are both right, I’m just pointing out that those who continue to reject Jesus are playing with Fire. There is no guarantee that they will not be one of the ones that God sends a strong delusion to during the Great Tribulation and there will be many, just as there will be many saved like Andy mentioned in his post. All we can do is pray for the ones we love who continue to reject the Lord, that they will yield to the Lord and get saved!

Edited to add: Right now on this side of the Tribulation, there’s only one way that one can’t be saved and that’s going to the grave having rejected Jesus. During the Tribulation there will be two ways that one can’t be saved. Going to the grave rejecting Jesus and take the mark of the beast. So there’s always hope for our loved ones as long as they draw breath, and if they do enter the Great Tribulation, I pray that they don’t take the mark,

 

[GotGrace]

those who continue to reject Jesus are playing with Fire. There is no guarantee that they will not be one of the ones that God sends a strong delusion to

Y E S they are playing with fire. They have no idea how dangerous a game they are playing with their eternal soul.

 

[Andy C]

We read in Matthew 24:14, “this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.” The Church is nearing the completion of this monumental task. This suggests that we are nearing the end of the age. But the Church doesn’t have to finish the job before the rapture. The Tribulation saints will take up the torch after the Rapture of the Church, and they will finish the job. Every tongue, tribe, and nation will hear the Gospel in the language of their heart.

Truly amazing grace that even those who rejected the truth pre rapture, still have another chance to believe as the gospel is spread around the world by the new trib saints.

 

[JoyJoyJoy]

I’m just pointing out that those who continue to reject Jesus are playing with Fire.

Agree 100%!!
In my opinion, there will probably be a lot of people killed immediately following the Rapture...all unsaved folks.

Today is the day of salvation.

 

[Reason & Hope]

So, here's a question to ponder:
1. We go up. We're gone.
2. So-called aliens arrive at the UN, the European Parliament, the White House, etc. announcing that they are the gods of old who have returned to set things right.

Think of how people you know will respond to seeing actual "aliens" -- not in grainy footage or blurry images. There's no believing or not believing; these beings clearly exist. What do they do with that? How many Christians-in-name-only will re-adjust their view to believe that aliens seeded our planet? What about all the secularists? "It's just like the Marvel movies!" they'll say, or maybe some will think back to some old Twilight Zone episodes.

How many, seeing that we've gone and seeing these new aliens, will realize that they are fallen beings and that we should not worship them?

 

[MyhopeisinHim]

Praise God!
I know this is true and hold out hope for my lost loved ones even after the Rapture.

It's amazing to me that there will be so many killed in the judgements yet so many saved!! I guess saved Trib folks could be killed in the judgements during the first half of the Trib??

Those are the many who have chosen to not to listen to the Word of God and to the many believers who have tried to explain to them the Gospel of Jesus Christ! Now their suffering will be so great and their hope so diminished they will take heed in what was once revealed to them by God and family members. Praying!!!

 

[DMac]

Spiritual Signs of the Last Days
By Dr. Nathan E. Jones

(Note: Our guest contributor, Lee Brainard, is a self-taught expert in ancient Greek and Hebrew texts. Lee demonstrates that treasures can be unearthed through study and hard work and through a driving passion for the Word of God.)

I recently discovered Lee Brainard. He seems to have some insightful teachings.

 

[FindingJoy]

So, here's a question to ponder:
1. We go up. We're gone.
2. So-called aliens arrive at the UN, the European Parliament, the White House, etc. announcing that they are the gods of old who have returned to set things right.

Think of how people you know will respond to seeing actual "aliens" -- not in grainy footage or blurry images. There's no believing or not believing; these beings clearly exist. What do they do with that? How many Christians-in-name-only will re-adjust their view to believe that aliens seeded our planet? What about all the secularists? "It's just like the Marvel movies!" they'll say, or maybe some will think back to some old Twilight Zone episodes.

How many, seeing that we've gone and seeing these new aliens, will realize that they are fallen beings and that we should not worship them?

Yep, and I can see so many around me falling for it. I'm hoping they remember my endless obsession with the rapture, and realize the truth.

I even leave a computer with this forum, RR, and GraceThruFaith open, bible's strewn around my house, etc.
My dad will be the one to look for me, and I need him to come back to Christ and hopefully drag his new family with him (they are the idiots who will fall for aliens ).

I'm sure many of you are in the same emotional boat *hugs*

 

[Reason & Hope]

I recently discovered Lee Brainard. He seems to have some insightful teachings.

He spoke at the Pre-Trib Study Group in 2021 on finding references to the pretrib rapture in the writings of Ephraim the Syrian.

 

[Umbrella Girl]

we are on the final lap

I believe it, too. My strength is failing, but believing this is the final lap gives me the ability to carry on for yet another day…

 

[Umbrella Girl]

I see more and more *respectable* teachers/preachers saying this. I, too, believe we are the generation!!! It gives me strength to keep going. It's truly Our Blessed Hope.♡♡♡♡♡♡

Amen, how could it possibly go much longer?

From a sexual standpoint, it has all become so wicked, so insane, so vile. And that’s just for starters.

There are so many other aspects of the current conditions of our world that are exactly the way Jesus described how it would be at His return.

 

[JoyJoyJoy]

From a sexual standpoint, it has all become so wicked, so insane, so vile. And that’s just for starters.

Agree.
I have read of the way it was in ancient Rome with the feasts...people would gorge themselves then vomit and eat more.
They practiced homosexuality, pedophilia, orgies, sexual *religious* orgies, beastiality, etc.., as well as adultery and fornication. I think the OT pagans did the same.

Solomon said there is nothing new under the sun...maybe we are more aware of the evil because of the internet. And the population of the earth has grown so more people practice these things.

So thankful I am saved and have a home in Glory!! And can realize this sinful world is not my home.