SpaceX declares independence: Elon Musk's firm says they will not recognize Earth laws in planned Mars colony

antitox

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SpaceX declares independence: Elon Musk's firm says they will not recognize Earth laws in planned Mars colony and says 'free planet' will adopt 'self-governing principles'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...recognize-Earth-laws-planned-Mars-colony.html

* SpaceX feels Mars is a free planet and it will not recognize Earth-based laws
* The claims were recently spotted in Starlink's beta consumer service terms
* SpaceX will abide by international laws while operating on Earth and the moon
* However, on Mars it will follow self-governing principles based on good faith
* The news comes a week after Musk said SpaceX aims to build a self-sufficient city on Mars that does not rely on help from Earth to survive

Elon Musk's SpaceX has declared Mars a 'free planet' and claims their planned colony on the red planet will not recognize Earth-based laws.

The claims were spotted buried in Starlink's beta consumer service terms that was recently sent to customers ahead of the internet rollout.

Dubbed 'Governing Laws,' the section states SpaceX will not abide by international laws beyond Earth and the moon, but instead adopt self-governing principles 'established on good faith.'

The terms of service was shared on Twitter and Reddit, but also comes a week after the company revealed plans to build a mega constellation of satellites around Mars and a self-sustaining city that does not rely of Earth for survival.

Twitter users 'Whole Mars Catalog,' seems to be the first to share the ninth clause in Starlink's beta consumer service terms.

The section states Starlink's service on Earth and the moon will abide by laws set by the state of California, but on Mars or other colonization spacecraft, it will not recognize any Earth-based government's authority or sovereignty.

On Mars, and the firm's Starship rockets travelling there, 'disputes will be settled through self-governing principles, established in good faith, at the time of Martian settlement,' the clause reads.

The section falls in line with the latest plans revealed by Musk, which entails building a sustainable city on Mars that will not rely on Earth for survival.

Musk shared details of this vision last week during the Mars Society's annual conference, saying settlers on the Red Planet will need to be self-sufficient in the event 'ships from Earth stop coming for any reason.'

'This really might come down to: Are we going to create a self-sustaining city on Mars before or after World War 3,' said the CEO.

'And I think the probability of it being created after World War 3 – hopefully there's never a World War 3 – but the probability of after is low, so we should try and make the city self-sustaining before any possible World War 3.'

Three days following, SpaceX president and COO Gwynee Shotwell spoke with TIMEmagazine about SpaceX's mission to bring Starlink internet to Mars.

'Once we take people to Mars, they are going to need a capability to communicate,' she said.

'In fact, I think it will be even more critical to have a constellation like Starlink around Mars.'

And a key player in turning these ideas into a reality is the massive Starship rocket, which Musk recently announced is eyeing 2024 for its first trip to Mars.

The craft is the firm's 'top priority' and over the past few months, SpaceX employees have been asked to accelerate progress 'dramatically and immediately' with the hopes of hitting the timeline.

The goal is to eventually send on million people to live on Mars, which Musk says will require three flights a day - or 1,000 flights a year - with 100 people on each one.

Although Musk has great plans to build a new civilization on Mars, he has emphasized the mission will be 'difficult' and there will be a number of dangers settlers may face while developing the new galactic world.

Speaking during an interview last month, the billionaire said: 'I want to emphasize, this is a very hard and dangerous and difficult thing,' Musk said.

'Not for the faint of heart. Good chance you'll die. And it's going to be tough, tough going, but it'll be pretty glorious if it works out.'

The BFR (Big F***ing Rocket), now known as Starship, will complete all missions and is smaller than the ones Musk announced in 2016.

The SpaceX CEO said the rocket would take its first trip to the red planet in 2022, carrying only cargo, followed by a manned mission in 2024 and claimed other SpaceX's products would be 'cannibalised' to pay for it.

The rocket would be partially reusable and capable of flight directly from Earth to Mars.

Once built, Musk believes the rocket could be used for travel on Earth - saying that passengers would be able to get anywhere in under an hour.
 

Batfan7

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While I think Jesus will be back before this ever gets implemented, in principle, I kind of agree with the idea that any self-sufficient colony on Mars should be self-governed. It's simply too far away for Earth based systems to be effective. Granted, like all other human-centric governing systems, this one is likely to face corruption, tyranny, injustice, etc. Especially since the initial leadership is likely anti-god.

So, I don't think anything will come of this (it's like a modern Tower of Babel), but if it does, it'll just be more of the same flawed humanity doing sinful things in a different location.
 

Endangered

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My guess is Elon wants to be emperor of Mars. Something like Erdo in Turkey. Texas sized ego and the greed of George Soros.
My guess is it ain't gonna happen on Mars because of the Rapture and the AC.
 

Lepter

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Make sure you don't take any of the earth's natural resources or conveniences created by your fellow men that you despise and go "create" your own paradise.
You should find a way to get there without burning our fuel resources but just go.
He relies on earth people buying electric cars and using his hyperlink. We should just keep spending while he sets up an independent planet at our expense.

Of course he's living in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks he can get a million people to Mars. Just another fantasist who dreams of a godless utopia.
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
Once there, the Martian slaves won't be able to leave/escape without the owner's permission :eek

:hmmm


Wonder if Bibles and hymnals will be banned :eek

Who's going to search the luggage, on which planet :eek
 
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Umbrella Girl

Now we see through a glass, darkly; (1 Cor 13:12)
While I think Jesus will be back before this ever gets implemented, in principle, I kind of agree with the idea that any self-sufficient colony on Mars should be self-governed. It's simply too far away for Earth based systems to be effective. Granted, like all other human-centric governing systems, this one is likely to face corruption, tyranny, injustice, etc. Especially since the initial leadership is likely anti-god.

So, I don't think anything will come of this (it's like a modern Tower of Babel), but if it does, it'll just be more of the same flawed humanity doing sinful things in a different location.
EXACTLY! Musk truly has a God complex, and this foolish Mars endeavor is a modern day Tower of Babel...

Can’t wait for Papa to “flick” away this little yet arrogant thing, as the mere “flea” that it is, compared to Him...
 

Batfan7

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EXACTLY! Musk truly has a God complex, and this foolish Mars endeavor is a modern day Tower of Babel...

Can’t wait for Papa to “flick” away this little yet arrogant thing, as the mere “flea” that it is, compared to Him...
Musk really does, doesn't he? He thinks this project will "save" humanity from extinction (in the same way the Tower of Babel was supposed to save humanity from extinction from another Flood), but it's just as doomed to failure.

Don't get me wrong, I think we'll get to explore outter space in the Millennium, but it will not be in an effort to avoid extremely action like Musk is planning now.

Personally, I think this is just one more sign of the End approaching.
 

railfan727

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I want to get away from this world so badly I can't stand it anymore! But I want to be in a place where freedom (true, God given freedom and not the warped liberal version), truth, justice, and righteousness reign. In other words, the Kingdom of Christ!

It's impossible for man to improve on what God has already promised. Any attempt to do so ends in misery. These people could have all they ever wanted, and more... for real! If only they would humble themselves before our Lord and admit that they're sinners who have no hope of saving themselves and believe on His finished work at the Cross.
 

kathymendel

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I'm not sure, but isn't a large part of his plans funded by U.S. taxes.......... even if through NASA, etc.???
It seems to me that if the US government is paying for this in any way, they will have a say in how things
will be run "up there".......... even if by stopping supplies to them.
 

hopefilled

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It's all such insanity...
We can't get life on this planet right...what an incredible waste of money and resources.
Looking up at least several times per hour these days...Maranatha!
 

antitox

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Well, I am sure that Mars isn't going to have any vacation-like attraction to it. Unless someone thinks that barren landscape is of any interest.

Life there will be boring, difficult, and hard to manage.

There will probably be health problems due to some level of radiation that gets through, lack of gravity, and not a whole lot of leisure for the sake of emotional stability.

And, Musk did admit that some would die there.
 
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