Andiamo
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I’m getting the feeling we will see the digital currency. It’s upsetting to think about in my flesh so I must keep looking at that through the Holy Spirit lens.
Silicon Valley Bank Crash today
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I want to add a little to the “wokester agenda” recognized in this post and emphasize how much of this slimy bank’s money was donated directly to the wackjob left. $73 million of the bank’s cash was given to BLM. This organization has already been revealed as a total scam as it pertains to the promises made to those who lost homes and businesses during the 2020 riots. The money went to mansions for a few BLM executives and their in-laws. But there is another element to this bank scam that is spiritual as Athenasius has pointed out. In addition to sleazy donations, these banks spent millions on gender issues, pronouns, race, and the rest of the LGTBQ agenda by organizing vast amounts of related staff training. This huge focus has nothing to do with banking or investments. It is merely a critical component of the Woke global electronic cashless system everyone has been discussing.
athenasius
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It IS upsetting. We may. But if we do see that digital currency, there is a certain amount of "normal" that will still apply.
I actually think just like 2008 and other crisis times that the WEF and their puppets have engineered, that the bubble won't fully burst till we are gone and out of here. If it does burst, it does so in a temporary limited fashion. Just as 2020 hasn't killed us all as many feared and the world leaders seem to have hoped, I think there might be unpleasantness but not total collapse.
God has His timing for all things and He is our refuge and our strength. The Holy Spirit acts as a Restrainer until God's time is right.
2 Thess 2:7 7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.
The way I read things, there is relative expectations of peace and safety which covers the economy not just world politics just before the Rapture. Not perfect but "normal" for the times we live in, just as "normal" applied to Noah's day and Lot's day.
Paul's comment in 1 Thess 5: 2-4
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Goes along with the Days of Noah and Lot in Mt 24 and Luke 17
Call me crazy but I actually think that things will correct themselves to a degree that makes the world sigh in relief and get back to business, buying and selling and looking to the future. Talk of peace and safety. Sounds like a world that just dodged another bullet if you ask me. Or a series of bullets because uncertainty will continue till the Rapture. For whatever reason right at the point of the Rapture there is an expectation of Peace and Safety, the exact opposite of which happens after we go.
That might mean we see a digital currency to help things limp along till we are out of here or we could have a limited correction or a series of corrections.
The fact that God hasn't allowed the WEF to implode the world economy yet suggests He has a special time frame for their engineered world wide economic collapse/reset. I suspect that is the 3rd seal judgment moment. When Klaus Schwab and his buddies get what they've worked so hard for.
I look for Jesus at a point when people are saying Peace and Safety and NOT expecting Sudden Destruction which lines up with what Jesus said about the days of Noah and Lot.
Luke 17, 21 and Matthew 24. Jesus was speaking to the Jews and these passages apply to national Israel (the fig tree). He is giving Jews at the end time keys to understand where they are in prophecy and what to do about it. But we can look in and see what time of day it is from those prophecies.
In Luke 21 Jesus warns of the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD. In Luke 17 he describes how it will be before the judgment falls on the earth. Matthew has aspects of both, but includes a warning about fleeing Jerusalem. Matthew is NOT in 70 AD like Luke 21 is, Matthew is midway in the Tribulation at the Abomination of Desolation. Those passages go back and forth in time a lot. Hard to grasp. We need to look close to see where and when each picture Jesus gives apply.
The passages that deal with the situation just before judgment falls, include a description of normal life in Noah's day and the time of Lot.
They don't apply at the END of the Tribulation, but they sure do at the BEGINNING.
Inside the Tribulation Rev 6:5-6 -the 3rd Seal, suggests at that point there is a world wide famine and shortage, but the trade in luxuries (oil and wine) lasts until Rev 18 when Babylon is destroyed along with her commerce. At the midpoint Rev 13 the mark of the beast system is in place. That kind of suggests that the really massive world wide melt down and loss for most people will happen around the 3rd Seal. The WEF will finally get their reset. Things keep going from bad to worse- the tiny minority of rich leaders get richer (Babylon), and the population has to take the mark just to survive. That sounds like what the WEF wants, and what God has been stopping from happening.
Inside the tribulation people are hiding in caves begging the rocks to fall on them and hide them from the Wrath of the Lamb. They KNOW shortly after the Tribulation begins, that they are in the Day of the Lord, of His judgment. All thru the Tribulation they know this.
The only time they are unaware of judgment is right at the beginning, just after we leave, when the Restrainer is removed, and they think the good times are ahead.
Back to Jesus' description though-- Normal for Sodom, Normal for people of Noah's day included feasting---NOT FAMINE! The economy is good enough for parties, weddings, buying & selling of land, planting for the future. All keys of a goodish economy. Not perfect but good enough.
They aren't expecting judgment at that very moment. Paul is speaking of the moment before the Rapture, they are talking about Peace and Safety. Safety would include a safe economy, not just freedom from war.
Jesus points out that when judgment falls the moment before --- everything was "NORMAL". Nobody expects it, except for those that listen to Jesus.
The great destruction fell AFTER God took his righteous servant Noah and Noah's wife and family into the place of safety. After Lot and his wife and their 2 daughters were hustled out of Sodom.
This time frame only fits the beginnings of the Tribulation period, in the time after the Rapture takes us up and out of the way. God cannot deal with this world until His own are removed and the Holy Spirit ceases His operations as the Restrainer.
Another key point. There were 7 whole days between the time Noah entered the Ark, and the beginning of the flood. With Lot it was immediate as soon as he got a safe distance away. A few hours after he left.
There may be a little time after we leave, before the Tribulation begins in earnest with the signing of the covenant. During that time plenty of things can happen or there may be little to no time at all.
That will affect how much we see in preparations for the Tribulation period.
At the time we leave, just until judgment starts falling things are good. Like always, areas of the world see famine and hurt but the overall economy is going along good enough if the picture of Noah and Lot holds.
Then it really gets nasty.
Mt 24
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Luke 17:
26 “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.
28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.
Genesis 7:1-10
1 The Lord then said to Noah, “Go into the ark, you and your whole family, because I have found you righteous in this generation. 2 Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3 and also seven pairs of every kind of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive throughout the earth. 4 Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living creature I have made.”
5 And Noah did all that the Lord commanded him.
6 Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters came on the earth. 7 And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons’ wives entered the ark to escape the waters of the flood. 8 Pairs of clean and unclean animals, of birds and of all creatures that move along the ground, 9 male and female, came to Noah and entered the ark, as God had commanded Noah. 10 And after the seven days the floodwaters came on the earth.
If you made it to the end, I hope this is an encouragement. Keep looking up, our redemption draws near.
Ghoti Ichthus
Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
This is why they have to get rid of the FDIC. Thinking about it, I think the FDIC is the only real check and safeguard against the Federal Reserve and the few powerful individuals that control it. The FR is unelected and not part of the government, but it already has control over the money supply, interest rates, and currency and coin design, production, distribution, recall, and destruction. Handing over FDIC functions to Federal Reserve hands over control of the banks and entire banking system to those few powerful individuals running the Federal Reserve and eliminates the existing safeguards. It also paves the way for massive corruption of the Federal Reserve Board by banks, and singling out of specific banks and branches for extremely favorable or unfavorable treatment.
Wonder what they'll call the social credit rating office in the Federal Reserve
The function is already in place. From the Federal Reserve website:
"About the Federal Reserve System
The Federal Reserve System is the central bank of the United States.It performs five general functions to promote the effective operation of the U.S. economy and, more generally, the public interest. The Federal Reserve" . . .
"promotes consumer protection and community development through consumer-focused supervision and examination, research and analysis of emerging consumer issues and trends, community economic development activities, and the administration of consumer laws and regulations."
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https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/structure-federal-reserve-system.htm
Jan51
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I don't see the talk of peace and safety as describing the time before the tribulation, but after. The context of I Thes. has the rapture at the end of chapter 4, then 5 starts with the day of the Lord.
5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
The day of the Lord begins with the tribulation and takes us through the millenium. It begins sometime after the rapture, when the AC signs the covenant. Then people shall say, "Peace and safety!!" He assures the world that the chaos is now controlled. They don't realize at that point that sudden destruction awaits them, not peace and safety. The seals are opened and all hell breaks loose.
Another reason is because people have always called for peace and safety--I don't see how that can be a sign of the end. I have seen Christians claiming for decades that we know the rapture is imminent because the news has calls for peace and safety.
greg64
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In thinking about all this, I keep going back to Revelation 6 and the order of the riders. We may see hints of how that will be now, but only hints. The Church will be removed. The agreement will be made or made stronger. Then Jesus will allow things to progress by breaking the seals. On peace and safety, I think the answer may be both. We may cling to a dwindling sense of normalcy provided by the Restrainer for now, but at some point that will be removed. Then the first rider is let loose, probably with promises and false peace galore. Quickly after that follow the rest. While all this continues to set up, it may be worth making both Psalm 2 and the last part of Matthew 6 daily reads.
Wally
Say something Righteous and Wholesome...
Just remember whose images are on currency.
We trust God, and we know His Name.
Not Cesar or some other world image.
The coin backers who print the lie [in god they trust] do it to give a false hope or add it as a CYA gimmick just in case God really is out there.
We trust God, and we know His Name.
Not Cesar or some other world image.
The coin backers who print the lie [in god they trust] do it to give a false hope or add it as a CYA gimmick just in case God really is out there.
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Spartan Sprinter 1
Formerly known as Shaun
I hear that Credit Suisse is now on the brink of collapse, it's starting to get a little shaky here !!
Spartan Sprinter 1
Formerly known as Shaun
Shares in major investment bank Credit Suisse plunged by nearly 30 per cent overnight as the financial institution teeters on the brink.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/mar...g/news-story/0a67a5d6f0e55fb43f87390aeb2b7336
https://www.news.com.au/finance/mar...g/news-story/0a67a5d6f0e55fb43f87390aeb2b7336
Ghoti Ichthus
Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
"On July 30, 1956, two years after pushing to have the phrase “under God” inserted into the pledge of allegiance, President Dwight D. Eisenhower signs a law officially declaring “In God We Trust” to be the nation’s official motto. The law, P.L. 84-140, also mandated that the phrase be printed on all American paper currency. The phrase had been placed on U.S. coins since the Civil War when, according to the historical association of the United States Treasury, religious sentiment reached a peak. Eisenhower’s treasury secretary, George Humphrey, had suggested adding the phrase to paper currency as well."
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https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/president-eisenhower-signs-in-god-we-trust-into-law
athenasius
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I don't mean that the peace and safety talk is a sign (I agree, over used because people always crave Peace and Safety) -- but I do expect it just before the Rapture in some enhanced form.
The Day of the Lord is the whole period of the Tribulation beginning with the signing of the covenant, which cannot happen till we are out of the way, and with us, the action of the Holy Spirit as Restrainer, a function He does during the Church Age. The Rapture comes before that, right away or with a possible gap of time.
The theorized gap is not ruled out by the prophecies nor is an immediate change into the Tribulation if the signing occurs on our way up so to speak. Either way. I think I'm in agreement with you on that, although we might differ on how fast after the Rapture the Trib starts up.
I think there will be a period of turmoil right after the Rapture, and I think that might be the time for a lot of trouble to break loose. Things could go in rapid succession after that, from the revealing of the AC and the signing of the covenant to the other Seals breaking in quick succession.
The 2 places where the Peace and Safety talk become important are just before the Rapture when everything is going normally with plans for a peace deal or some such thing that everyone pins their hopes on, OR at the First Seal when the AC rides in and that covenant starts the Tribulation.
The desire for Peace and Safety is a very different thing from the anticipation of expected Peace and Safety. One is simply a desire that is with us forever, it's part of the human need for safety and security.
But it's the expectation of Peace and Safety as a new part of normal life that I'm looking to see at some point. We've had moments in history where that has happened, usually with the founding of things like the League of Nations or the UN where people start to talk about peace in our time being just around the corner after this next big signing of the next big treaty.
Of course these treaties and organizations come and go, broken and burning on the ash heaps of history. Forerunners of the real deal as put forward by the AC.
I look closely when the desire for Peace and Safety becomes an EXPECTATION of peace and safety. That is the period where sudden destruction can fall as the total opposite as Paul seems to imply. Totally unexpected destruction.
That lines up with the way Jesus also contrasts "normal" life in Noah's day and Lot's day with their removal and the sudden unexpected destruction that falls on them.
If I were to hazard a guess it would be a climate where we are emerging from the chaos of a limited nuke strike in the Ukraine, where Russia "wins" and everyone sighs with relief and hopes to get back to "normal" and there's some new type of brokered deal (not the AC) that has everyone's hope up that finally we can achieve "peace in our time" to quote poor Chamberlain in 1939. Similar in fact to Chamberlain's deal with Britain, France, Russia??? and Germany that gave Czechoslovakia to Germany so they would be satisfied and no more war.
That led into WW2 of course, and after that was over there was the hopes pinned on the UN and the cold war detente uneasy peace between the USSR and the West.
But I'm speculating here and with prophecy before it comes to pass, there is a lot of talk about how. Till it happens and all of us are surprised by how it all comes together.
Very few people were expecting Israel to become a nation in a day in 1948 after almost 2 millennia in diaspora. Till it happened. A few dispensationalists had been predicting it, but the general church was caught by surprise. I think the Rapture will catch most of the church by surprise, and the few of us predicting it, will be overjoyed.
I look forward to it as do we all here on RF.
Love
Margery
Ghoti Ichthus
Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
I think every Christian, even those, who have never heard of a Pre-Trib Rapture or who believe in a different timing of events, and who will be surprised, will know immediately what is going on (Jesus taking us to Heaven) and be overjoyed.
Spartan Sprinter 1
Formerly known as Shaun
I agree with Jan and Athenasius, i see a lotta bible teachers get excited and go "OOOOOOO RAPTURE"S VERY VERY CLOSE GUYS ANYTIME NOW" just because world leaders may ocassionally mention the golden words"Peace and safety"
Andiamo
"Let's go!"
I’m wondering if the world leaders were saying these words, “peace and security,” as frequently prior to the founding of the United Nations?
It seems like they say it almost constantly now.
It seems like they say it almost constantly now.
Spartan Sprinter 1
Formerly known as Shaun
More food for thought :
https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...k/news-story/f9ea3269912ad23563900f547a918203
Move to cover US bank deposits criticised following collapse of Silicon Valley Bank
Experts are warning that, although protecting depositors may have prevented an immediate crisis, it could wreak havoc for the future.https://www.news.com.au/finance/bus...k/news-story/f9ea3269912ad23563900f547a918203
ItIsFinished!
Blood bought child of the King of kings.
Where are these preachers getting this from?
Why do they apply that terminology towards the Rapture?
Which by the way would be a sign.
The Rapture is a signless event .
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Spartan Sprinter 1
Formerly known as Shaun
I know, i cringe everytime i hear it especially from the Hawaian shirt pastor who i use to follow before he lost the plot.
The only signs we can see are the signs of how close the tribulation may be and that's it, the rapture is literally a lottery as to when it can happen LOL.
JoyJoyJoy
I Shall Not Be Moved
My reply is off topic, but since you brought it up...
I see Christians saying the Rapture must be very close because...gas prices go up, food prices go up, Russia may use a nuke, Iran may get a nuke, Biden is president, bugs are sold as food, banks fail, paper money may become obsolete,
etc etc ad nausem....
All we can see is possible foreshadowing of the trib...and I do think we are seeing that. I do *think* the Rapture is close. In truth, we have no idea what God has planned for the future.
It seems like the more life gets uncomfortable for us, or there is a prediction that we don't like, the more *imminent* the Rapture becomes.
I dont think the Rapture is scheduled for the comfort or convenience of the US or western world. Maybe the harder life gets, the more people will come to Him???
That may come across as harsh but it's not meant to be. God's timing is perfect. I am looking forward to being caught up in the air!!!
soundingthealarm
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I've been watching/praying/wanting Jesus to come back it seems like my whole life. I'm 55 Years Old and when I was like 8 or 9 years old ..my small town Baptist Church showed the movie a Thief in the Night for Sunday Night Service and from that night until today I have been eagerly anticipating Jesus calling us home, even today I feel like a little kid in the back of a car asking "are we almost there yet?"
I have always thought it better to be a proclaimer that Jesus is coming soon than to be a scoffer of the message!
I live near a tourist area (Branson Missouri) and the closer you get to Branson ...the bigger and more frequent the signs advertising your arrival become.
Been to four different Bible Schools and at each school I chose the study of eschatology each time. My favorite Pastor/Professor who I learned the most from... wrote a book on Daniel and Revelation that has been used as a study guide literally across the world and twice I got to meet with him one on one and took the opportunity to once ask "Dr. Westlake, as a layman, what are like two main things we can look to know we ALMOST THERE?" lol
He said "those who are alive at that time will NOT see the Anti Christ, but they will see his stage. The two issues he will seem to solve that will cause the whole world to WORSHIP Him will be bringing a false sense of peace at a time of world chaos and He will be bring a false prosperity to the whole world, so when you see Israel surrounded and when the world economy is on the brink of total collapse, you will be witness to HIS stage and you can know the end of the age is near.
Global economies are all in dire straights..."the debtor is enslaved to the lender" People in positions of power have used debt to sell the masses into slavery of the NWO that is coming, there is nowhere to run or hide, I don't care how great your credit score is or how big your bank account, their is a global crash coming and YET there will be someone who will be able to sell it to the world that EVERYTHING WILL BE OK, just trust me as you follow me into this new way of buying and selling.
And Israel is becoming more and more vulnerable and prepped for Jacob's Trouble.
Then throw in that so many who are in positions of DARK leadership are touting their GREAT RESET and letting us know their time frame to implement their evil plan/scheme
We can see a stage being put in place right before our eyes.
So I do believe we are really almost there!!
I have always thought it better to be a proclaimer that Jesus is coming soon than to be a scoffer of the message!
I live near a tourist area (Branson Missouri) and the closer you get to Branson ...the bigger and more frequent the signs advertising your arrival become.
Been to four different Bible Schools and at each school I chose the study of eschatology each time. My favorite Pastor/Professor who I learned the most from... wrote a book on Daniel and Revelation that has been used as a study guide literally across the world and twice I got to meet with him one on one and took the opportunity to once ask "Dr. Westlake, as a layman, what are like two main things we can look to know we ALMOST THERE?" lol
He said "those who are alive at that time will NOT see the Anti Christ, but they will see his stage. The two issues he will seem to solve that will cause the whole world to WORSHIP Him will be bringing a false sense of peace at a time of world chaos and He will be bring a false prosperity to the whole world, so when you see Israel surrounded and when the world economy is on the brink of total collapse, you will be witness to HIS stage and you can know the end of the age is near.
Global economies are all in dire straights..."the debtor is enslaved to the lender" People in positions of power have used debt to sell the masses into slavery of the NWO that is coming, there is nowhere to run or hide, I don't care how great your credit score is or how big your bank account, their is a global crash coming and YET there will be someone who will be able to sell it to the world that EVERYTHING WILL BE OK, just trust me as you follow me into this new way of buying and selling.
And Israel is becoming more and more vulnerable and prepped for Jacob's Trouble.
Then throw in that so many who are in positions of DARK leadership are touting their GREAT RESET and letting us know their time frame to implement their evil plan/scheme
We can see a stage being put in place right before our eyes.
So I do believe we are really almost there!!
SarahRose
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