Report: Rents Across U.S. Skyrocket — 98% of 1 Bedroom and 100% of 2 Bedroom climbed 20%+ in many markets

[cheeky200386]

Cheeky, we can sure understand Mike's thinking on this. I would feel the same way, if I were younger, too. Yesterday, I read an article by Britt Gillett, posted by Chris, and the truths that it contained helped me to see more clearly what really matters and what doesn't. Even today, I have quit fretting about a few things that I realize now are not really 'issues' so I'm letting them go. Yay! We're going Home very soon. Praying for others to come to know the Savior
https://www.raptureforums.com/forums/threads/are-we-on-the-verge-of-the-tribulation.190219/

Thank you for sharing the article too. I'll got take a look.

 

[fl2007rn]

The prices have increased for nearly everything and a landlord has no choice but to pass these costs to their renters. Besides, who would want to be a landlord these days when tenants did not have to pay rent during the pandemic? My husband and I used to have rental houses as investments and thankfully we sold our last house at the beginning of the pandemic. There is no incentive to be a landlord so people will not invest in rental properties in the near future.

 

[GotGrace]

Regardless of where I end up in this life, there is a perfect place in God's House that Jesus will have prepared especially for me

Amen

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

Part of the problem is people moving from blue states to red states, and people moving away from crime.

I'm in a blue state and people are moving getting relocated/settled here from all over the world

Refugee, immigration, humanitarian, and church agencies/organizations are very efficient and have settled/relocated thousands and thousands and thousands here, with more new arrivals as fast as the organizations can get them a place to live. The churches are busy busy busy sharing The Gospel. I think all of the Muslim families that moved into Dad's neighborhood, except for one, has become Christian The neighborhood's still working on them, plus a few houses just sold, so more people to share with

More and more churches are offering services in other-than-English-languages, many have multi-lingual Sunday School, and more are calling bi/multiligual Pastors and church staff.

Everything's getting expensiver and expensiver and expensiver

(yeah, I know, "expensiver" isn't grammatically correct)

 

[Jojo4124]

The guy who cuts our grass said that he was mowing 2 streets over from our street.

He saw 4 guys in suits walking around a house that was next to where he was mowing. They waved him over and wanted to hire him to mow the lawn at the house that they were looking at.

The men told our lawn guy that an immigrant family would be moving in there...they get a free house, car, and lawn mower...but they mow the lawn the first time for the immigrant families.

Now, I have no way to confirm our lawn guy's story (he is a middle-aged family man)...but I have no reason to not believe him either.

I've personally seen the favor given to ppl who remain illegal after they get here because their govt benefits is a gravy train.

I would hope that maybe churches would house homeless Christians, at least, if ppl just couldn't afford rent.

Homelessness is a scary concept, unless you live near lakes, forest, and have survival skills.

Maybe Christians could start moving in together...those with homes housing those who cant afford high rents or something. Yes, do background checks, etc. But arent we called to be hospitable...if we have this world's goods, and do not share with those in need, it is sin...? Not sure the verse...sorry.

I thank You Lord for the stable housing that I have right now. If it goes away, please grow my faith n trust in You...til I just Know that You'll take care of me. Amen...

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I would hope that maybe churches would house homeless Christians, at least, if ppl just couldn't afford rent.

Homelessness is a scary concept, unless you live near lakes, forest, and have survival skills.

Maybe Christians could start moving in together...those with homes housing those who cant afford high rents or something. Yes, do background checks, etc. But arent we called to be hospitable...if we have this world's goods, and do not share with those in need, it is sin...? Not sure the verse...sorry.

I thank You Lord for the stable housing that I have right now. If it goes away, please grow my faith n trust in You...til I just Know that You'll take care of me. Amen...

Even if all the church did was allow homeless members pitch tents on the lawn and limited use of restroom facilities (scheduled times a few times a day) and maybe allow use of an exterior electrical plug, that would be helpful. A safe, dry place to store a few belongings (small locker?) and use of kitchen facilities would be Heavenly.

The problems here are zoning, environmental impacts (especially water), NIMBY neighbors, extreme cold, and severe storms. The last two could be overcome by housing inside the church, even if only during storms, and doing a warming tent set-up when it's cold out. Warm-up tents in homeless encampments are sometimes euphemistically labeled and called First Aid. Overnight cars in the church parking lot, occupied or not, will eventually draw attention to people on-site. The only way to mask this at a church is to have services and Bible studies throughout the night. People living in the church would probably have to sleep during the day out of sight, so when the authorities investigated reports of people living at the church, they would be accounted for in the night-time services and Bible studies. The biggest issue would be any children present. Maybe the excuse that night-time baby sitters are expensive or unavailable would fly. Maybe not.

As the number of individuals and families needing to use the church's facilities grow, the more interpersonal problems, conflicts with other church functions, and more strain on resources, facilities, and infrastructure. Church members using facilities need to be held accountable for behavior, keeping quiet and secret, maintain areas and facilities they use and give something back that helps the church and other members. Might be participating in ministries to other members, say visiting shut-ins, mowing elderly members' yards, shoveling, providing care, babysitting, etc. The same conditions that cause homelessness likely hurting other members, as well.


NIMBY = Not In My BackYard
Same thing that happens when proposed community mental health facilities, half-way houses, sex offender group homes, "affordable" housing, landfills, fast food, convenience stores, etc. are proposed/scheduled for an area.

 

[Endangered]

A news story said rents in Orlando are up 30%. This refers to residential rental rates. So what is happening in the commercial market? Are they also up 30%?

 

[Jojo4124]

Even if all the church did was allow homeless members pitch tents on the lawn and limited use of restroom facilities (scheduled times a few times a day) and maybe allow use of an exterior electrical plug, that would be helpful. A safe, dry place to store a few belongings (small locker?) and use of kitchen facilities would be Heavenly.

The problems here are zoning, environmental impacts (especially water), NIMBY neighbors, extreme cold, and severe storms. The last two could be overcome by housing inside the church, even if only during storms, and doing a warming tent set-up when it's cold out. Warm-up tents in homeless encampments are sometimes euphemistically labeled and called First Aid. Overnight cars in the church parking lot, occupied or not, will eventually draw attention to people on-site. The only way to mask this at a church is to have services and Bible studies throughout the night. People living in the church would probably have to sleep during the day out of sight, so when the authorities investigated reports of people living at the church, they would be accounted for in the night-time services and Bible studies. The biggest issue would be any children present. Maybe the excuse that night-time baby sitters are expensive or unavailable would fly. Maybe not.

As the number of individuals and families needing to use the church's facilities grow, the more interpersonal problems, conflicts with other church functions, and more strain on resources, facilities, and infrastructure. Church members using facilities need to be held accountable for behavior, keeping quiet and secret, maintain areas and facilities they use and give something back that helps the church and other members. Might be participating in ministries to other members, say visiting shut-ins, mowing elderly members' yards, shoveling, providing care, babysitting, etc. The same conditions that cause homelessness likely hurting other members, as well.


NIMBY = Not In My BackYard
Same thing that happens when proposed community mental health facilities, half-way houses, sex offender group homes, "affordable" housing, landfills, fast food, convenience stores, etc. are proposed/scheduled for an area.

If the homeless church goers could pay something toward their bathroom n electricity use, that would help. I guess there'd have to be a limit on how many ppl the church could help.

I was talking about homeless ppl that go to work every day, pay their bills, etc., but cant afford the increasing rent.
Every Christian that would need shelter would still pay for their food, etc. They'd have more money to pay for child care so they could work a job. Just like they find child care now.

The housed could give back by being asked by the church that they give volunteer hours to fix the church, babysit, etc. The church would benefit.

Of course there'd have to be rules n things. But honestly, if hard working ppl only just need a shelter it could work...and benefit the church due to the required volunteerism.

Ppl who choose not to work wouldnt be welcome. Ppl who cant work due to illness may have to be referred elsewhere...perhaps God would lead someone to start a ministry to house the ill.

I know that when ppl think of homeless ppl, generally ppl think of dirty trash everywhere, etc. But if middle class ppl couldnt afford rent anymore, forming some kind of community...where everyone pitches in...well, that kinda sounds like the church mentioned in the NT. Yes, families were to care for their own. But lonely widows were taken care of by the church. Stephen was a distributor of food, I think. Ppl who dont work, dont eat. With all the equipped saints, everyone could operate in the ministries that God gave them. Kids would be taught...the teacher earns her housing. The property would be maintained as payment for shelter, etc. All while ppl still owned cars n paid their bills n worked their jobs.

I dont know. Maybe just pie in the sky wishes. Christians are supposed to help eachother...not enable laziness...but share what God provides with those believers (first) in need.

I honestly would like to study the Word more on this. Just throwing ideas out there. I hope that if I ever lose my housing, that I wont have to live in my car in a store parking lot (have done this n maintained my job n bills). If Christians think I am scum because I cant afford housing, I'd hope that they'd read Jesus' Words regarding the least of these. Any one of us could be homeless. How would you want Christians to respond to you in that situation?

Just sharing, not meaning to offend at all! Christians who judge others, and close their hand to those who struggle materially...Jesus has a problem with them. Not my words...

Xxoo

 

[cheeky200386]

If the homeless church goers could pay something toward their bathroom n electricity use, that would help. I guess there'd have to be a limit on how many ppl the church could help.

I was talking about homeless ppl that go to work every day, pay their bills, etc., but cant afford the increasing rent.
Every Christian that would need shelter would still pay for their food, etc. They'd have more money to pay for child care so they could work a job. Just like they find child care now.

The housed could give back by being asked by the church that they give volunteer hours to fix the church, babysit, etc. The church would benefit.

Of course there'd have to be rules n things. But honestly, if hard working ppl only just need a shelter it could work...and benefit the church due to the required volunteerism.

Ppl who choose not to work wouldnt be welcome. Ppl who cant work due to illness may have to be referred elsewhere...perhaps God would lead someone to start a ministry to house the ill.

I know that when ppl think of homeless ppl, generally ppl think of dirty trash everywhere, etc. But if middle class ppl couldnt afford rent anymore, forming some kind of community...where everyone pitches in...well, that kinda sounds like the church mentioned in the NT. Yes, families were to care for their own. But lonely widows were taken care of by the church. Stephen was a distributor of food, I think. Ppl who dont work, dont eat. With all the equipped saints, everyone could operate in the ministries that God gave them. Kids would be taught...the teacher earns her housing. The property would be maintained as payment for shelter, etc. All while ppl still owned cars n paid their bills n worked their jobs.

I dont know. Maybe just pie in the sky wishes. Christians are supposed to help eachother...not enable laziness...but share what God provides with those believers (first) in need.

I honestly would like to study the Word more on this. Just throwing ideas out there. I hope that if I ever lose my housing, that I wont have to live in my car in a store parking lot (have done this n maintained my job n bills). If Christians think I am scum because I cant afford housing, I'd hope that they'd read Jesus' Words regarding the least of these. Any one of us could be homeless. How would you want Christians to respond to you in that situation?

Just sharing, not meaning to offend at all! Christians who judge others, and close their hand to those who struggle materially...Jesus has a problem with them. Not my words...

Xxoo

I agree, housing costs are getting so high that unless one has family to live with, I can see folks becoming homeless. I'm grateful I have 3 siblings that if things got really bad we could all pool our resources together and live in one house. It sucks for adults with no siblings unless they have really good friends who can help them.

I do wonder if my church would come together to help one another out. Yet, I saw a lady have to move to Oklahoma last year because she couldn't afford MA rents anymore. The Pastor and other members were aware but she also didn't want roommates. At that point beggars can't be choosers. I would hope we would offer help.

 

[Jojo4124]

https://www.biblehub.com/1_john/3-17.htm

Wow the Bible says how can the love of God be in this type of Christian!

 

[Jojo4124]

I agree, housing costs are getting so high that unless one has family to live with, I can see folks becoming homeless. I'm grateful I have 3 siblings that if things got really bad we could all pool our resources together and live in one house. It sucks for adults with no siblings unless they have really good friends who can help them.

I do wonder if my church would come together to help one another out. Yet, I saw a lady have to move to Oklahoma last year because she couldn't afford MA rents anymore. The Pastor and other members were aware but she also didn't want roommates. At that point beggars can't be choosers. I would hope we would offer help.

Exactly, ppl who need housed would need to accept what's available, or just go live in their car maybe. I think we Americans are very spoiled, living in our spaces...we enjoy privacy, n nothing wrong with that. But in a crisis...sharing is what I think we are called to do.

When I lived in CO, immigrant families lived 5 families to a house. I think many countries are like this.

I hope I would obey the Lord and house, for ex, a widow in the church, who loves Jesus n shows it...who just cant pay her rent anymore. Even if I only rented an efficiency, n had to give her my bed.

If I just hand her a bag of food n tell her, "God bless you," n send her away...I hope that God would show me Jesus' Face on that woman as she turned to leave, and be convicted, and take care of her...

 

[cheeky200386]

Exactly, ppl who need housed would need to accept what's available, or just go live in their car maybe. I think we Americans are very spoiled, living in our spaces...we enjoy privacy, n nothing wrong with that. But in a crisis...sharing is what I think we are called to do.

When I lived in CO, immigrant families lived 5 families to a house. I think many countries are like this.

I hope I would obey the Lord and house, for ex, a widow in the church, who loves Jesus n shows it...who just cant pay her rent anymore. Even if I only rented an efficiency, n had to give her my bed.

If I just hand her a bag of food n tell her, "God bless you," n send her away...I hope that God would show me Jesus' Face on that woman as she turned to leave, and be convicted, and take care of her...

It's a hard one because I know I wouldn't feel comfortable living with others. There are even sisters at my Church whom I would not want to live with. Even my mom, husband and me drive each other nuts living in the same house currently. Everyone just has their own habits.

I have Christian friends who don't discipline their kids, who hoard, or who aren't clean. All of these things would drive me nuts. Those are the things I know about, I can't imagine the habits I don't see. Vise versa I'm sure I would drive them nuts too.

 

[Mama Bug]

It's a hard one because I know I wouldn't feel comfortable living with others. There are even sisters at my Church whom I would not want to live with. Even my mom, husband and me drive each other nuts living in the same house currently. Everyone just has their own habits.

I have Christian friends who don't discipline their kids, who hoard, or who aren't clean. All of these things would drive me nuts. Those are the things I know about, I can't imagine the habits I don't see. Vise versa I'm sure I would drive them nuts too.

I am an introvert big time. I have to have time and space to myself ever so often or I will go crazy. All the things you mentioned would make me snap. I need peace and quiet at least for part of the day.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

If the homeless church goers could pay something toward their bathroom n electricity use, that would help. I guess there'd have to be a limit on how many ppl the church could help.

I was talking about homeless ppl that go to work every day, pay their bills, etc., but cant afford the increasing rent.
Every Christian that would need shelter would still pay for their food, etc. They'd have more money to pay for child care so they could work a job. Just like they find child care now.

The housed could give back by being asked by the church that they give volunteer hours to fix the church, babysit, etc. The church would benefit.

Of course there'd have to be rules n things. But honestly, if hard working ppl only just need a shelter it could work...and benefit the church due to the required volunteerism.

Ppl who choose not to work wouldnt be welcome. Ppl who cant work due to illness may have to be referred elsewhere...perhaps God would lead someone to start a ministry to house the ill.

I know that when ppl think of homeless ppl, generally ppl think of dirty trash everywhere, etc. But if middle class ppl couldnt afford rent anymore, forming some kind of community...where everyone pitches in...well, that kinda sounds like the church mentioned in the NT. Yes, families were to care for their own. But lonely widows were taken care of by the church. Stephen was a distributor of food, I think. Ppl who dont work, dont eat. With all the equipped saints, everyone could operate in the ministries that God gave them. Kids would be taught...the teacher earns her housing. The property would be maintained as payment for shelter, etc. All while ppl still owned cars n paid their bills n worked their jobs.

I dont know. Maybe just pie in the sky wishes. Christians are supposed to help eachother...not enable laziness...but share what God provides with those believers (first) in need.

I honestly would like to study the Word more on this. Just throwing ideas out there. I hope that if I ever lose my housing, that I wont have to live in my car in a store parking lot (have done this n maintained my job n bills). If Christians think I am scum because I cant afford housing, I'd hope that they'd read Jesus' Words regarding the least of these. Any one of us could be homeless. How would you want Christians to respond to you in that situation?

Just sharing, not meaning to offend at all! Christians who judge others, and close their hand to those who struggle materially...Jesus has a problem with them. Not my words...

Xxoo

I think it would be important to limit "residency" to members. By default, there is accountability and church discipline if necessary, plus the members are known to church leadership, so issues could be headed off/prevented, and if people have to be clustered/share facilities, better groupings could be made.
I agree that contribution, monetary or otherwise, based on the member's means and ability are important. Not just to the church, but also the members being helped.