Question for Protestants

[Eli1]

Good evening.

As we all know Catholics are lost and there is no hope for them with all their rituals and worshipping icons.
But how do you Protestants respond to their statements when they say ”You’re all worshipping a book”?

Thank you.

 

[Chris]

Nobody here worships a book. We worship the One true God through Jesus Christ.

I'd worship God than the fallen men in Rome.

 

[Eli1]

Amen to that.

 

[Tall Timbers]

I've never had a catholic tell me I'm worshipping a book. Additionally, I personally hold out hope that not all who identify as catholic are lost.

 

[Eli1]

I've never had a catholic tell me I'm worshipping a book. Additionally, I personally hold out hope that not all who identify as catholic are lost.

You’re correct on this because this is something that is usually said by Italians in Italy not Americans in USA.
Italians or Greeks say ”Eh, those American Protestants are lost worshipping a book”,

 

[SkyRider]

Maybe lost Catholics just need a GPS: God's Personal Savior in Jesus Christ.

 

[Tall Timbers]

You’re correct on this because this is something that is usually said by Italians in Italy not Americans in USA.
Italians or Greeks say ”Eh, those American Protestants are lost worshipping a book”,

I've spent lots of time in both Greece and Italy and have never heard that. In Greece I mostly came across Greek Orthodox. Never came across catholics there except for on a US Air Force base where there was a gifted catholic priest who I could listen to preach all day long. I hope he was saved. I suspect he was. In Italy, even in The Vatican, I've never heard that.

 

[SkyRider]

I've spent lot of time in both Greece and Italy and have never heard that. In Greece I mostly came across Greek Orthodox. Never came across catholics there except for on a US Air Force base where there was a gifted catholic priest who I could listen to preach all day long. I hope he was saved. I suspect he was. In Italy, even in The Vatican, I've never heard that.

I suspect that that was just an attempt at humor or derision or both. I know though that the “book” - which is inspired by God, the Holy Spirit, points us exclusively to Jesus Christ for salvation. Whereas, the teachings from Rome - inspired by another source - point their followers away from Christ exclusively, and have them instead looking towards wafers, their version of Mary, statues, popes, the “Holy Mother church”, relics, bones, anything and everything, in a diabolical plot to discredit or diminish Jesus and keep one’s focus off of Him. Only the devil would want this mindset in his attempts to beguile, deceive and keep people lost and unsaved. May the good Lord open the eyes of those trusting in a religious system versus putting one,s complete faith and trust in the only means of salvation.

 

[Eli1]

I've spent lot of time in both Greece and Italy and have never heard that. In Greece I mostly came across Greek Orthodox. Never came across catholics there except for on a US Air Force base where there was a gifted catholic priest who I could listen to preach all day long. I hope he was saved. I suspect he was. In Italy, even in The Vatican, I've never heard that.

That’s interesting because I hear it all the time but it sounds like the majority here doesn’t worship a book.
Personally I think everyone is correct despite differences because Jesus is the unifying figure despite thousands of denominations in the world.

Thanks.

 

[mphsmom]

As we all know Catholics are lost and there is no hope for them with all their rituals and worshipping icons.

This is not true. I was raised Catholic and God called me out of it and I came to Jesus for Salvation. I admit I know a lot of Catholics that think the RCC is the one true church, but I share the Gospel with them whenever I can and leave it to God to grow the seeds that have been planted.

 

[fretslide]

It depends if the catholic in question has believed on The Lord Jesus Christ or not. If they are a "good catholic" they are trusting in mary as the co-redemptrix and the roman church as part of their salvation

 

[SkyRider]

This is not true. I was raised Catholic and God called me out of it and I came to Jesus for Salvation. I admit I know a lot of Catholics that think the RCC is the one true church, but I share the Gospel with them whenever I can and leave it to God to grow the seeds that have been planted.

In the infamous words of those of us who used to listen to Rush Limbaugh to voice their approval of what he would spout during his three hours of “Advanced Conservative Studies” - “ Ditto!”

Saved out of Catholicism - a graduated Catholic - and want to see them get the blinders removed and to trust in Christ solely for redemption. Deception is so insidious in their system - through indoctrination from early on, by going to the Mass, CCD classes, and the supposed authority of a false “Holy Father”. Imagine falling for the ruse of a wafer turning into Jesus Christ or praying before statues - usually of “Mary” - as if they were/are real and capable of hearing our prayers?? Once you get saved and the Holy Spirit gives you discernment, you realize how pagan these practices are and how was I ever so blind to go along with it?? It is mind boggling to see how Satan can deceive one from the simple truth of the free gift of salvation offered ONLY thru Jesus Christ. Thank you Lord for freeing me from such blatant lies and a false hope! Please free more Catholics from this mass deception of a false “plan” of redemption.

 

[GotGrace]

Good evening.

As we all know Catholics are lost and there is no hope for them with all their rituals and worshipping icons.
But how do you Protestants respond to their statements when they say ”You’re all worshipping a book”?

Thank you.

Hello there BAAston. (I’m trying to resemble the Boston dialect and doing a poor job).
How ya’all doin up in Boston? I haven’t noticed you on here before so .

Speaking for myself I don’t worship the book, but it is a guidebook to instruct a person on how to live in a way pleasing to Holy God. It is also history to see where and how people and nations failed in the past to prevent us from making the same mistake.

The Word clearly teaches that no matter how hard we try to be perfect, it is God’s grace that saves us. In other words we are all sinners and though we want to be good we still fail at times.

As far as the Catholic faith goes Holy God will examine each of their hearts just like he will examine the heart of every Protestant to see how they responded to his Son Jesus Christ.

 

[Psalm37v4]

If the Catholics said I’m worshiping a book, I would tell them that whether they know it or not, they’re guilty of something much worse by worshiping man. Calling the Pope their father, praying to and worshiping Mary… Praying to Saints… and (possibly?) Worshiping their own book, the apocrypha. Remember, the Catholics don’t understand the true meaning of worship. They will vehemently deny they worship anybody other than the Lord, by saying they “venerate” Mary. Anybody who knows their dictionary will tell you that venerate basically means to praise and honor… A.k.a. worship.

 

[Chris]

That’s interesting because I hear it all the time but it sounds like the majority here doesn’t worship a book.
Personally I think everyone is correct despite differences because Jesus is the unifying figure despite thousands of denominations in the world.

Thanks.

Catholics are not right. Their religious system built out of Rome is a works based salvation plan that is not based on grace through faith. I have put together a very handy chart that you can use to show Catholics the errors of their belief system. Here is the link:

https://www.raptureforums.com/roman-catholicism/the-roman-catholic-salvation-plan/

As you can see the RCC makes people jump through many hoops and leave the grace of Jesus Christ for the worked based salvation plan for the Cult of Rome. This is wrong.

However, there will be some Catholics that do not follow the works based salvation plan of the Cult of Rome and will instead follow the grace through faith plan of Jesus Christ. they will be saved because they placed their faith solely in Jesus Christ.

 

[Eli1]

Catholics are not right. Their religious system built out of Rome is a works based salvation plan that is not based on grace through faith. I have put together a very handy chart that you can use to show Catholics the errors of their belief system. Here is the link:

https://www.raptureforums.com/roman-catholicism/the-roman-catholic-salvation-plan/

As you can see the RCC makes people jump through many hoops and leave the grace of Jesus Christ for the worked based salvation plan for the Cult of Rome. This is wrong.

However, there will be some Catholics that do not follow the works based salvation plan of the Cult of Rome and will instead follow the grace through faith plan of Jesus Christ. they will be saved because they placed their faith solely in Jesus Christ.

Chris do you think that by saying “I’m right and you’re all wrong and going to hell” is an edifying way to change people’s minds, atheists included?
Why not just say “as long as you believe in God and especially Jesus Christ, you’re all on a good spiritual path”?
Probably because Salvation is a dear topic to most Protestants right?

 

[Eli1]

Hello there BAAston. (I’m trying to resemble the Boston dialect and doing a poor job).
How ya’all doin up in Boston? I haven’t noticed you on here before so .

Speaking for myself I don’t worship the book, but it is a guidebook to instruct a person on how to live in a way pleasing to Holy God. It is also history to see where and how people and nations failed in the past to prevent us from making the same mistake.

The Word clearly teaches that no matter how hard we try to be perfect, it is God’s grace that saves us. In other words we are all sinners and though we want to be good we still fail at times.

As far as the Catholic faith goes Holy God will examine each of their hearts just like he will examine the heart of every Protestant to see how they responded to his Son Jesus Christ.

Hey there, howyadoin?
I came here from Christian chat forums (another site) where some of the members here migrated because this site was down.
So I thought, let me stop by another Protestant site and see what’s going on here.

Cheers!

 

[Chris]

Chris do you think that by saying “I’m right and you’re all wrong and going to hell” is an edifying way to change people’s minds, atheists included?
Why not just say “as long as you believe in God and especially Jesus Christ, you’re all on a good spiritual path”?
Probably because Salvation is a dear topic to most Protestants right?

Belief in God does not save. What saves is genuine faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Without it one is going to Hell. Period.

I'm sorry if that is not politically correct or whatever. But the TRUTH is what it is brother.

Read the Lord's words himself - "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

That's pretty clear cut to me. I have family members that believe Jesus was a "good guy, good teacher, BUT was not God in the flesh".

They do not see any need to believe in the need to repent and trust in Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection for their payment of the sin debt. All of that is required for salvation.

There is only ONE name under Heaven in which to be saved. Period.

We are called to take the Gospel to the whole world and warn people of the eternal consequences of rejecting God's path to Salvation through Jesus Christ. People need to make that decision today!!! Tomorrow could be TOO LATE!!!!

Today is the DAY OF SALVATION!!!

 

[Chris]

Chris do you think that by saying “I’m right and you’re all wrong and going to hell” is an edifying way to change people’s minds, atheists included?
Why not just say “as long as you believe in God and especially Jesus Christ, you’re all on a good spiritual path”?
Probably because Salvation is a dear topic to most Protestants right?

I'm going to clarify here, but when I FIRST meet people I don't say "Hey, do you believe in Jesus? If not, you're going to Hell!!!"

I tell people about Jesus and all that He has done for us and explain the need for a Savior. God wants none to perish, but to come to everlasting life through the Lord Jesus Christ. That is what I want, too. that's what all of us here on this forums wants.

But brother, I won't sugar coat the Gospel or the truth for anyone. If people think there are many ways to Heaven, they need to be corrected and told the truth. Their eternal destiny is at stake and we will not play with that. Salvation is not a game. It is a matter of life and death.

As we all know, how you talk with someone about salvation depends on what you think is the best way to reach them. Some need a wake up call, some need to be reasoned with, but they need to be told the hard truth. We are not doing them any favors by compromising the Word of God. That is what the devil wants you to do because it ends up making you ineffective for the Lord. Don't play into his hands.

 

[lightofmylife]

This is not true. I was raised Catholic and God called me out of it and I came to Jesus for Salvation. I admit I know a lot of Catholics that think the RCC is the one true church, but I share the Gospel with them whenever I can and leave it to God to grow the seeds that have been planted.

So true denominations and good works do not save. Faith and trust in Jesus is the only way. If I was a Catholic got saved by Jesus the way, the truth, and the life, I would leave the RCC behind as in run don't look back and don't go back to that false church. Thank God for all the past RCC members on RF that has come to the real truth of the gospel.