Possibility of WWIII

soundingthealarm

Fleethewrath2come
The TIME we are living in is set apart for Gentile Nations (Gospel Outreach) and THAT time is winding down, and the TIME of Jacob's Trouble seems to be near at hand, so we know that national sovereignties will decrease as the NWO (10 nations united under one agenda) increase. Israel reborn, the economic system GLOBALLY crashing prepping for the economy of Revelation 13 to be implemented, the Ezekiel 38 scenario taking shape, the church age winding down with apostasy a world wide plague and the tentacles of big brother expanding at warp speed, I think we can SEE the Day of the Lord Approaching. There is a global lust for someone to please SHUT OFF THE LIGHT and God will at some point in time give this place up to its reprobate mind and I think its growing close. Its like world leaders are united in throwing a chaotic tantrum right now and feverishly trying to rid the planet of the old world order that God Himself instituted at the tower of Babel. What Lot was feeling in Sodom we ALL are feeling world wide!!!

Russia roaring at the same time the former super power is now a house divided and whimpering seems to just only alert us to the time at hand.

Looking UP!!!
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
The Bible says nothing about our world wars, since I'm not sure about WW1 I'll just mention WW2, the end of that war brought about The State Of Israel, so at least with that war God used it to further his plan, so, I wouldn't rule at least one more and/or many more before the rapture..

WWI also brought about the League of Nations which morphed into the United Nations following WWII. A WWIII could lead to a global govmint but I think Eze 38 might need to occur before the global govmint is formalized. A post Eze 38 world would be easier for a global govmint to step into, I think. The defeated nations wouldn't have much choice but to go along with it as they would likely need much aid just to feed themselves after God wallops them.
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
1: Russia as Ezek describes, needs to become SO powerful that NONE of the nations OR the UN-- other than the above handful say or do ANYTHING to Russia. And the handful that do, only manage to squeak out a carefully worded question "have you come for spoil?"

2: Tarshish and cubs need to become SO WEAK that they can barely manage a question, let alone a protest.

Nuclear weapons make a great restrainer, especially when you have thousands of them. Russia is a ruined country but they are militarily very strong because of all those nukes. Tarshsish and Cubs could be many times more militarily capable than Russia but not have the will to end up in a nuclear conflagration in their own countries. In fact, as Russia realizes that the west will stand aside for them it will embolden Russia. If Russia does invade The Ukraine and the west merely cries and sanctions, Russia will be emboldened and likely won't stop with Crimea and the Ukraine. Power hungry tyrants rarely stop themselves but have to be stopped by another. In that sense an invasion of the Ukraine could help lead Russia to turn its eyes upon Israel as a prize worth having.
 

Work4Peanuts

I like being just a Well-Known Member
Nuclear weapons make a great restrainer, especially when you have thousands of them. Russia is a ruined country but they are militarily very strong because of all those nukes. Tarshsish and Cubs could be many times more militarily capable than Russia but not have the will to end up in a nuclear conflagration in their own countries. In fact, as Russia realizes that the west will stand aside for them it will embolden Russia. If Russia does invade The Ukraine and the west merely cries and sanctions, Russia will be emboldened and likely won't stop with Crimea and the Ukraine. Power hungry tyrants rarely stop themselves but have to be stopped by another. In that sense an invasion of the Ukraine could help lead Russia to turn its eyes upon Israel as a prize worth having.
Thank you. You put into words what I've been feeling must happen.
Wars and rumors of wars, indeed! Look up brothers and sisters!
 

Dave_97

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Power hungry tyrants rarely stop themselves but have to be stopped by another. In that sense an invasion of the Ukraine could help lead Russia to turn its eyes upon Israel as a prize worth having.
In my personal analysis, it looks like that’s were this might go. Perhaps Russia will take over Ukraine, and continue to bully other close nations. Increase its presence in the Middle East and Northen Africa as it’s already doing. Eventually they will feel unstoppable, and when they see Israel flourishing they will make the fatal mistake of going all out to attack them with their new alliances (Ez 38).

I don’t see Ez 38 happening before the rapture though (my personal opinion). I think the rapture will destabilize the US than any other nation due to believers present in almost very sector of the nation. Believers in the Government, Army, Education, high class to low class. In other nations believers aren’t that spread out. All that said, if Russia continues to expand and the USA continues to get weaker (especially after the rapture). It’s very easy to see how Ez 38 can take place in the future.
 

Dragontiger777

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The most major influence to me in my young life in terms of coming to faith in Jesus was my great grandparents. Your grandkids see you living out your faith and loving God and them. For me, seeing that in my own grandparents mixed with liberal doses of teaching about God stuck with me and has been an inestimable help to me to this day. Just so you know that God can really use grandparents too in a mighty way.
Yes; I understand you feel about the Grandchildren...

My wife and I become first time Grandparent (very soon this May 2022) Since I pray and asking God whatever the Rapture or not.

We want to see our first Granddaughter plus same time If God wants take us to home I am very happy. Either way God command I will accept. smile
 

Dave_97

Well-Known Member
I agree. The US may or may not be weakened, but it is not required for that scenario.
That’s true. I just personally think the USA is doomed to get weak. I don’t want to sound pessimistic. But the simple consequences of sin will eventually catch up to this nation. One does not simply kill their own children in the millions (abortion), sexualize their culture and children by pornography, LGBTQ etc. Promote ungodly polices, and expect to flourish as a powerful nation. God doesn’t actually have to judge America in my opinion, it can simply self destruct due to the consequences of sin. If our younger generation and even our current leaders can’t tell what is the difference between a man and a women that should say a lot. I’m no innocent bystander, but by the grace of God he saved me and showed me sin and that it has a day of reckoning.

Yes other nations like Russia and China are ungodly. Difference is those nations have always been like that. The USA was founded on Judeo Christians values, and it seems when you know God and rebel against him, you seem to take the pendulum too far. Even Putin and the leader of China know the difference between a man and a women, not so with our leadership in America. I think even ungodly leaders in China and Russia know to be wise not to destroy the family structure. No nation survives that.

The only solution to our problem is repentance honestly. Perhaps we can get some leaders in high places of government saved so they push back on some polices. Otherwise, the future is bleak for this nation. But for believers the future is never bleak since we have a the blessed hope. Our main focus remains, to reach the unbelieving world.
 

Andiamo

"Let's go!"
Maybe we are all thinking of different definitions of "weak." I certainly feel that we are already weak right now. I wouldn't call us strong anymore. Any country that doesn't have the guts to stand up for what is right, is weak. Not only are our leaders not standing up for what is right, they don't even know what is truly right. They are too busy pretending to care about the alphabet soup crowd and social justice, as they destroy our country and take us on the fast track to fascism. We are also becoming more and more weak economically, which does factor in to security. But some here may be thinking of weak in terms of militarily.
 

Andiamo

"Let's go!"
Now I'm rethinking what I said and wondering how many times this nation has actually stood up for what is right. We have gotten involved in wars that we shouldn't have, meanwhile leaving others to be butchered in other places.
I agree with @Dave_97.... I think without the strength of the Lord and standing on His principles we are nothing.
 

TrustinHim

Well-Known Member
Nuclear weapons make a great restrainer, especially when you have thousands of them. Russia is a ruined country but they are militarily very strong because of all those nukes. Tarshsish and Cubs could be many times more militarily capable than Russia but not have the will to end up in a nuclear conflagration in their own countries. In fact, as Russia realizes that the west will stand aside for them it will embolden Russia. If Russia does invade The Ukraine and the west merely cries and sanctions, Russia will be emboldened and likely won't stop with Crimea and the Ukraine. Power hungry tyrants rarely stop themselves but have to be stopped by another. In that sense an invasion of the Ukraine could help lead Russia to turn its eyes upon Israel as a prize worth having.
If Russia truly has hypersonic nukes and makes very real threats to use them if the US should interfere. Our government may find itself in checkmate, a choice of intervention and nukes taking out multiple cities or stand down and complain as the current regime is sure to do
 

alisani

Well-Known Member
Maybe we are all thinking of different definitions of "weak." I certainly feel that we are already weak right now. I wouldn't call us strong anymore. Any country that doesn't have the guts to stand up for what is right, is weak. Not only are our leaders not standing up for what is right, they don't even know what is truly right. They are too busy pretending to care about the alphabet soup crowd and social justice, as they destroy our country and take us on the fast track to fascism. We are also becoming more and more weak economically, which does factor in to security. But some here may be thinking of weak in terms of militarily.
I feel the same. It's not just heartbreaking to see this country falter, but the why and the how truly break my heart. I mourn for my American home, but I understand God's plan and my future home with Him is priceless to me. That hope makes it possible for me to put all of this in perspective and maintain peace. It was not always that way and I can relate to @Umbrella Girl Back in 2012ish I was burnt out with watching, rapture fatigue, combined with so much stress and heartache in my personal life. My disappointment and fear were overwhelming. And I certainly lacked the wherewithal to tackle the world, my life and my perspective on it. God's grace and pruning have made peace possible for me. @Umbrella Girl, we will lift your name to God in prayer and I have no doubt that He will lift you up in spirit, body and mind. May we all be refreshed while we wait for that command to meet Jesus in the air. I know soon to us and soon to God can mean vastly different things, but I truly believe that He is soon coming, with soon being our human understanding of the word. :hug
 

Lovin Jesus

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I look at it as if it was a giant chess board with unseen hands moving the pieces into place. We see things and hear things that worry us, about financial collapse or nuclear wars but one thing I've noticed since I started paying attention to prophecy many years back, and has gotten more and more obvious to me is the Hand of The Restrainer. The Holy Spirit acting as The Restrainer.

Lately, the last decade it's become even more obvious.

Satan and fallen humanity plan their plans, and work so hard but God stops them until just that time that He says NOW and the enemy surges ahead to disaster because all it accomplishes is that prophecy gets more and more lined up and become clearer as we get closer.

When God allows the "big stuff" to happen around us, it's for a reason.

WW1 prepared the land of Israel, the trickle of Jews that began in the late 1800s increased, and the BALFOUR declaration plus the fall of the Ottoman Empire meant that Israel would form again. Most of the church didn't believe it, and scoffed at the dispensational preachers who stuck to the truth of the Word of God and said Israel would come to life again, and they thought it would be soon.

God prepared the land for the people who would soon come. Ezekiel 36 and 37 speaks to the land to get ready for the people coming home out of the nations, but it's an overview. They come home in unbelief, and then in a way only God can do, they are brought to faith in God again (this is the purpose of the Tribulation) and these chapters speak of the Millennial Reign, showing the Lord ruling over them.

WW2 started to send more Jews to Israel just before it hit, then afterwards the survivors came back to the land

The dry bones came together with a loud sound (WW2) and the nation stood on it's feet.

We are in the middle of that process right now.

When we leave as Paul says, they will have breath of faith from God breathing life into the nation. Not all will believe, but by the end of the Tribulation, all the survivors will petition Christ to come again, and He will.


Romans 11: 25-27
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
A couple of years ago I read a book that was referencing to Israel and how it was before the the Jews went back to the land of Israel. The book gave a detailed description of the land which at the time of the one who wrote about the description of Israel, but it was called Palestine at the time since the Jews had not yet returned for the rebirth of Israel in 1948. The person was Mark Twain of all people. I am quoting a little from the Jerusalem Post who wrote an article about the visit Mark Twain made to Israel. I've bolded a few lines to highlight the condition he saw Israel in st the time. I thought to post this to point out that the rebirth of Israel in 1948 had to be a Divine event and Only by the Divine hand of God could s desolate Israel be transformed as it was and as quickly as it was. As you pointed out how God prepared the land for the Jews to return to their Homeland. Only God could have restored it from desolation to a plentiful beautiful land. The story of Mark Twain and his visit to Israel is amazing to compare to how it was when the "valley of the dry bones," came to life" Ezekiel 37
34 "The desolate land will be cultivated instead of lying desolate in the sight of all who pass through it. 35 They will say, “This land that was laid waste has become like the garden of Eden; the cities that were lying in ruins, desolate and destroyed, are now fortified and inhabited.” 36 Then the nations around you that remain will know that I the Lord have rebuilt what was destroyed and have replanted what was desolate. I the Lord have spoken, and I will do it.’
Ezekiel 36:34-36

Here's the article:

Riding on horseback through the Jezreel Valley, Twain observed, “There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent – not for 30 miles in either direction. There are two or three small clusters of Bedouin tents, but not a single permanent habitation. One may ride 10 miles, hereabouts, and not see 10 human beings.”
He continues, “Of all the lands there are for dismal scenery, I think Palestine must be the prince... Can the curse of the Deity beautify a land? “Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies.”
Twain was not alone in his poor impression of the land of milk and honey. Historians and travelers alike made similarly dreary observations over the centuries.

Six hundred years before Twain’s visit, another famous visitor with a nom de plume was struck by Jerusalem’s desolation. Rabbi Moses ben Nachman, known as Nachmanides (1194-1270), fled Christian Spain for the Land of Israel. After a long and perilous journey, Nachmanides arrived at the Port of Acre before traveling to Jerusalem in 1267, where he couldn’t even find nine other Jews to pray with. He wrote to his son, “Many are Israel’s forsaken places, and great is the desecration. The more sacred the place, the greater the devastation it has suffered. Jerusalem is the most desolate place of all.”

For complete article:
https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Unto-the-nations-505760

There not a shadow of doubt that the restoration of the land of Israel was by the hand of God and fulfilled the prophecy of the valley of dry bones and that had to be the rebirth of Israel that I believe is also fulfilment of the fig tree prophecy.
 

Xenosjeff

Well-Known Member
Dr. Fruchtenbaum does a good job on giving perspective on the world wars being in prophecy. He also ties Israel and it's reestablishing to the wars aftermath.

As far as Ezekiel's war requiring a weak West,....How did we do in our recent adventure in Afghanistan? The mightiest nation in history running away with our tails tucked even before the enemy was in place.

That is an example of very bright, highly educated, morally vacuous idiots trying to run anything. They might have all the forms filled out correctly but it still a moronic plan from the inception.
Frankly, I really don't see a revival of morality within America as a trending possibility. Too much dope, hate, selfish pride and ignorance. We're just living in the shadow of a once great society. People who know the Lord are going to feel more and more like they are in the twilight zone. Our map has only one arrow on it that points us to a safe harbor, up.


Jeff
 
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