Perhaps the white horse isn't the antichrist?

newtofaith

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Could the first horse in Revelation be the New World Order or WEF/globalists/build back better/EU/ten nations gang? They are the Kings of the world at present (unfortunately).
Wearing a crown (corona); conquering without firing a shot (which is exactly what the elite globalists said they would do to take over the world); also I think I read that 'bow' means poison in Greek.
Why does it have to be the antichrist? What biblical evidence is there that proves that it is?
Anyone shine a light on this for me please.
 

mattfivefour

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I submit that all four horsemen are the Antichrist: first he appears as a powerful savior, then a conqueror, which then brings famine and then economic chaos.

Using multiple pictures to represent the different aspects of one person or event is a typical scriptural technique. For example, God instituted four blood sacrifices in the Old Testament but all picture Jesus Christ ... just different aspects of his sacrifice for us. Two examples: the sin offering pictured Christ as taking our sin, whereas the whole burnt offering pictured Christ giving us His righteousness. So, as I read it, I see the four horsemen being progressive pictures of the Antichrist.

The entire book of Revelation uses vivid symbolism to represent supernatural realities that are difficult for us to understand. For example, in Revelation 4:6-8 the four creatures before the throne picture Christ in all four aspects of His being: King, Man, Sacrifice, and God. (Oh, I wish I had time here to go into the beautiful picture of Christ and His Majesty shown in this chapter!)

In any case, since the entire book of Revelation is about spiritual truths and events, I think we should keep our interpretations in the spiritual/supernatural realm: that is to say, I do not think we should use human explanations to interpret the imagery. God may use humans to accomplish his purposes, but it is always spiritual forces (whether of God or of Satan) that are at work behind the scenes. And in Revelation I think we see those spiritual beings move from the background to the foreground. For that reason, I have little doubt that what is described in the Bible's final book should be interpreted as God and Antichrist appearing and acting in the sight of mankind.

Therefore the rider on the white horse would logically be Antichrist, not some human effort of governments.

I pray this helps.
 

newtofaith

Well-Known Member
Thank you so much for the reply. Very interesting indeed.
Humour me with this, I did suddenly think that perhaps the white horse represents the rapture of the victorious church. The horse wears a stephanos crown which is the same as the elders and saints; it conquers: which is Jesus' love for us and our salvation (victory for the church); the rider carries a bow which could show that there is a battle but no death (for the church in the rapture); and the horse is white which is what all the other horses associated with the saints and Jesus are in colour (and the clothes we wear).
Could the white horse signify the rapture of the church? We have conquered death through Jesus.
I realise that you are probably shaking your head in mirth over this idea. I have some wacky thoughts ;)
 

Work4Peanuts

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I don't think so. In context, the opening of the seals is by Jesus who is taking full ownership of earth. As the seals are opened it brings God's wrath upon the earth. The church is not any part of God's wrath, neither the focus of it, nor the instruments. The Bible says that vengeance is completely claimed by God. We are merely witnesses.

The faithful in the church are given crowns not victor's wreaths.
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
Humour me with this, I did suddenly think that perhaps the white horse represents the rapture of the victorious church.
The Rapture occurs before Tribulation begins, not near the beginning of Tribulation. Are you exposed to a source from which you are deriving these thoughts? Some of them are pretty out there, that's why I ask. If so, you might want to distance yourself from that source of false eschatology.
 

usoutpost31

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Could the first horse in Revelation be the New World Order or WEF/globalists/build back better/EU/ten nations gang? They are the Kings of the world at present (unfortunately).
Wearing a crown (corona); conquering without firing a shot (which is exactly what the elite globalists said they would do to take over the world); also I think I read that 'bow' means poison in Greek.
Why does it have to be the antichrist? What biblical evidence is there that proves that it is?
Anyone shine a light on this for me please.
It's more inferred than stated directly. However, there are good reasons to think this is the AC.

-the AC is an imitator(or imposter) of Christ. Riding a white horse here, as Jesus will in Revelation 19.
-Wearing a crown as a ruler is consistent with the Bible's description of him having dominion over all.
-Conquering, and to conquer, is consistent with his mentality as described in Daniel and Revelation.

It could not be the Rapture or the Church depicted here, though. Remember the scene is in Heaven looking down on earth. The four beasts, and the 24 elders are there, and all the angels, as is the Lamb, who opens the seals. We recognize the Lamb as Jesus himself, in the midst of the host of Heaven.

The scene at the Rapture is quite different. We are told that Jesus will descend from Heaven, along with the angels, and the saints, and the Resurrection takes place at this time. Rev 6:1-2 does not match 1 Thess 4:13-18 or the other Rapture passages.
 

Rocky R.

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I submit that all four horsemen are the Antichrist: first he appears as a powerful savior, then a conqueror, which then brings famine and then economic chaos.

Using multiple pictures to represent the different aspects of one person or event is a typical scriptural technique. For example, God instituted four blood sacrifices in the Old Testament but all picture Jesus Christ ... just different aspects of his sacrifice for us. Two examples: the sin offering pictured Christ as taking our sin, whereas the whole burnt offering pictured Christ giving us His righteousness. So, as I read it, I see the four horsemen being progressive pictures of the Antichrist.
That's interesting! I have never thought of it that way, but I still regard the seal judgments being the progressive consequences of a worldwide Communist government. I guess interpreted from the standpoint of Antichrist being represented by all four horsemen, the pale horse would be indicative of massive anti-Christian persecution, especially after becoming possessed by Satan (and Hell followed with him).
 

newtofaith

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All very interesting thank you. On balance I do think the rider on the white horse is the antichrist but I will always try and look at things from every angle as I feel that this cements my most considered interpretation.
I do find it very interesting how in Matthew Jesus talks of not being deceived, war and rumours of war, famine, pestilence and earthquakes which is the same order as the seals. Jesus specifies that these are the beginning of sorrows (I believe). Could the beginning of sorrows come under the tribulation? Maybe the sorrows are within the tribulation timeframe (notably the beginning of the tribulation)?
If that was the case it would then make it clear that the first horse (before wars and rumours of wars) is the antichrist. It seems strange to me that the beginning of sorrows has the same events, in the same order, as the first five seals. Was Jesus trying to tell us that the first horseman is someone trying to deceive people aka the antichrist?
Perhaps the time of sorrows is just another name for the first few years of the tribulation?
 

Chris

Administrator
Staff member
Could the first horse in Revelation be the New World Order or WEF/globalists/build back better/EU/ten nations gang? They are the Kings of the world at present (unfortunately).
Wearing a crown (corona); conquering without firing a shot (which is exactly what the elite globalists said they would do to take over the world); also I think I read that 'bow' means poison in Greek.
Why does it have to be the antichrist? What biblical evidence is there that proves that it is?
Anyone shine a light on this for me please.
The use of "personal pronouns" indicates that the rider on the white horse is a person, not a thing. We don't refer to the British government, UN, NATO etc. as a "He" or anything similar. Personal pronouns are for people, not things.

The rider on the white horse carries a bow, but no arrows which indicates that he comes forth conquering by peace not war.
 

Chris

Administrator
Staff member
Thank you so much for the reply. Very interesting indeed.
Humour me with this, I did suddenly think that perhaps the white horse represents the rapture of the victorious church. The horse wears a stephanos crown which is the same as the elders and saints; it conquers: which is Jesus' love for us and our salvation (victory for the church); the rider carries a bow which could show that there is a battle but no death (for the church in the rapture); and the horse is white which is what all the other horses associated with the saints and Jesus are in colour (and the clothes we wear).
Could the white horse signify the rapture of the church? We have conquered death through Jesus.
I realise that you are probably shaking your head in mirth over this idea. I have some wacky thoughts ;)
I don't think the horses have any crowns on their heads. The rider on the white horse has a crown though.

Have you been on the main site to read the articles on there? Did you know that there are currently over 12,500 articles on the main site?

For example, a search on the term "antichrist" can be found here:

https://www.raptureforums.com/?s=antichrist

If you spend some time on the main site you will come across a large wealth of articles featuring sound and conservative views and interpretations on Bible prophecy.

God bless.
 

GHoe

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All very interesting thank you. On balance I do think the rider on the white horse is the antichrist but I will always try and look at things from every angle as I feel that this cements my most considered interpretation.

Can I ask besides your own understanding of the text, what leads you to feel so strongly that you are correct in your assessment ? Is there other information or a person who is backing your theory.
 

Spartan Sprinter 1

Formerly known as Shaun
All very interesting thank you. On balance I do think the rider on the white horse is the antichrist but I will always try and look at things from every angle as I feel that this cements my most considered interpretation.
I do find it very interesting how in Matthew Jesus talks of not being deceived, war and rumours of war, famine, pestilence and earthquakes which is the same order as the seals. Jesus specifies that these are the beginning of sorrows (I believe). Could the beginning of sorrows come under the tribulation? Maybe the sorrows are within the tribulation timeframe (notably the beginning of the tribulation)?
If that was the case it would then make it clear that the first horse (before wars and rumours of wars) is the antichrist. It seems strange to me that the beginning of sorrows has the same events, in the same order, as the first five seals. Was Jesus trying to tell us that the first horseman is someone trying to deceive people aka the antichrist?
Perhaps the time of sorrows is just another name for the first few years of the tribulation?

As many bible teachers have mentioned, we should be looking towards Jesus Christ and not the antichrist
 

Jan51

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Dan. 9:27 tells us that the event that starts the tribulation is the signing of a seven-year covenant by the Antichrist. So with Revelation showing the first event as the rider on the white horse (impersonating Christ), we can safely say the rider must be the Antichrist.
 

newtofaith

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GHoe, most people I have read do back up the theory that the first horse is the antichirst. Chuck Misler, Larkin, Andy Woods etc. Lots of fascinating articles written by people on here and elsewhere. That is why I do believe the rider is the antichrist: makes the most sense to me. I just like to consider other opinions as I believe it helps me to come to the best conclusion.
Thank you Chris, what you have written makes sense to me.
 
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