Ordo Ab Chao

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Ordo Ab Chao
By Pete Garcia

And as He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one misleads you. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will mislead many people. And you will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pains.” – Matthew 24:3-8


There is an old maxim that says — truth is always the first casualty of war. If correct, then it seems to make sense of so much of the madness we’ve seen play out over the past 100+ years. Since 1913, America has been continuously fighting two kinds of warfare; the wars we could see, and the wars we couldn’t.

The enemies we saw standing against us and our American ideals, had governments, and armies wearing uniforms and held to recognizable political ideologies that were diametrically opposed to such things as capitalism and individual freedom. Enemies such as the Central Powers of World War 1 (WWI) and the Axis Powers of World War II (WWII) easily come to mind. You could generally pick a decade and simply look at the Hollywood movies and determine pretty quickly who the “bad guys” were. Although America was indomitable against the enemies she could see, the death toll for American servicemen was still always too high.

– World War I: 116,516
– World War II: 405,399
– Korean War: 36,516
– Vietnam War: 58,151

The reason these numbers are so high is because of another popular maxim which says — generals always want to fight the last war. What this means is that there is a tendency by military (and political) leaders to want to take the lessons learned from previous successes and apply them to current and future conflicts. The major problem with this is that technology is always changing, and the enemy is always adapting how they fight. This, unfortunately, causes us to keep making the same mistakes.

Author’s note: Granted, not all generals operated this way, because we’ve had some really great ones over the past century who achieved extraordinary victories. From the first major conflict of the 20th century (World War I) to the last (Desert Storm) generals and admirals like Pershing, D. MacArthur, Eisenhower, Bradly, Puller, Nimitz, Patton, D. MacArthur (yes-same guy), and Schwarzkopf led brilliant military campaigns. I imagine the death toll for Americans would be considerably higher had these men not been leading their formations.

Nevertheless, at the end of WWII, the world changed. Several new developments came about that hastened the rise of the United States as a global superpower, as well as transforming geopolitics for the second half of the 20th century.

The first is that we ended the Pacific Campaign by using a terrifying new weapon called the atomic bomb. We used two against the Japanese Empire at Nagasaki and Hiroshima and then demanded their unconditional surrender, for which they complied. Granted, this didn’t end warfare by any stretch, but it did change the context of war moving forward. For the first time in human history, mankind now had the ability to destroy the planet…forever.

The second development was a consequence of using the atom bomb, which, was the decades-long arms race that quickly ensued. This meant every other major nation-state wanted to attain the same atomic/nuclear capabilities we had, in order to level the playing field against us. The first was the Soviet Union in the 1950s. Soon after Britain and France had them. Then communist China attained them in the 1960s. Pretty soon, every major power either had nuclear bombs or had the ability to quickly produce them. At this late stage in 2022, we are now in the process now of trying to put all the worms back in the can by denying the last few rogue regimes from gaining this terrible power.

The third development after WWII that occurred as a result of the nuclear arms race was the Cold War. This “cold” war was actually a hot war, not waged directly between the US and the USSR, but indirectly through proxy wars (Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc.). The world realized that it couldn’t afford for two nuclear-armed nations to actually go to war with each other (MAD Doctrine). From this Cold War arose the necessity for the intelligence agencies (CIA, MI6, KGB, NSA, FBI, etc.) and the rapid development of spycraft, surveillance programs, and surveillance technologies.

The last major geopolitical development out of World War II was the rebirth of the nation of Israel in what used to be the old Ottoman Empire. This would factor “hugely” in the coming decades regarding the political unrest in the Middle East, and how the Arabs would come to leverage weaponized energy demands (oil and gas) against us. Most importantly, the return of Israel back to her ancient and historic homeland would signal the fulfillment of the prophetic super-sign signaling the last days.

The Devil You Don’t​

Thus far, we’ve discussed a brief overview of the last 100+ years with the rise and fall of world powers, the strategic outcomes, and the very serious consequences for 20th-century geopolitics. There was (and still is) an even more odious enemy lurking in the shadows and waging their own secret wars over this same period of time…the globalist.

The globalist wants nothing more than to bring about new world order. This means their agenda is to subvert and destroy the old world order (i.e., independent sovereign nation-states), and replace that with a singular, overarching global government. For them, this is the only way to rid the world of war, poverty, inequality, etc.

More shadowy than the intelligence services, the globalists often moved unhindered and unnoticed behind the scenes of the world’s most powerful corporations, financial markets, academia, and centers of government power. Like tares stealthily sowed amongst the wheat, these globalists use their positions of authority to always further some facet of their new world order agenda all the while masquerading as patriotic citizens.

With their public personas on full display, these men (and women) were often seen giving generously to charities and political causes. Because they did this, most Americans (speaking from an American POV) gave them the benefit of the doubt as decent human beings. However, the hidden persona of these globalists was always working to quietly and unassumingly consolidate their stranglehold over some facet of the media, the banks, establishment politicians, or bureaucratic entities, so when the time was right, they could bring them to heel.

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U. S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” – Pres. Woodrow Wilson’s 1913 book, The New Freedom

“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world – no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” – Pres. Wilson, 1919

“We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world.” — Professor Arnold Toynbee, 1931

“We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent.” — James Warburg, to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, February 17, 1950

“Talk of imminent threat to our national security through…external force is pure nonsense. Our threat is from the insidious forces working from within which have already so drastically altered the character of our free institutions – those institutions we proudly called the American way of life.” – General Douglas MacArthur, address to the Michigan Assembly in Lansing, 1952


“All of us will ultimately be judged on the effort we have contributed to building a New World Order.” — Robert Kennedy, former U.S. Attorney-General, 1967

“We are not going to achieve a New World Order without paying for it in blood, as well as in words and money.” — Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., the CFR Journal Foreign Affairs, August 1975


My intent is not to bludgeon you to tears with endless quotes from those who either championed for new world order, or feared its arrival, but simply to provide sampling to show you this is neither a conspiracy theory nor a new endeavor. This effort to bring about a global government is a century (or more) in the making.

Regardless of how ambitious these previous attempts to force a world government were in the past (i.e., League of Nations, United Nations, Club of Rome, etc.), or how grandiose their claims were in bringing about this new order, history would have it known their time was not yet. Something was always missing.

Granted, they had the advantage of working in the shadows, largely unseen. They had the power and influence to cast aside any aspersions of globalism as being conspiracy theories. They could count on the media and Hollywood (which they owned) to echo their agendas. They could count on the unrelenting human tendency to continue to make the same mistakes over and over. The one thing working against them though was/is their hubris. Many of them lacked the ability to keep their secrets to themselves. Like giddy school children, they couldn’t help but talk about how they were on board with a new world order…as if by saying the words out loud they could somehow force it to manifest in front of their eyes.

“We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order, a world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the U.N.’s founders.” – Pres. George H.W. Bush, Jan 16, 1991 (my emphasis)

Nevertheless, the work of these globalists (most of whom are long dead now) since at least 1913 was not all in vain. All of their efforts were instrumental in one degree or another, in both laying the foundation for world governance, as well as setting the precedence for the need for one. In financing revolutions, provoking wars (Iraq, Ukraine?), and enabling global political and economic instability (Arab Spring, 2020 race riots, COVID lockdowns), these globalists were in effect, attempting to create the requisite antithesis (disorder) so mankind would come running to them for the pre-planned synthesis (global order), which is what they wanted from the beginning.

As it turned out, global war-crafting wasn’t enough to tip the scales toward total global governance. Ironically, the creation of the atomic bomb that delayed global governance because it created a détente amongst globalists within nuclear-armed nations. Simply put, globalists (secretly working within powerful governments) couldn’t simply force other nuclear-armed nations to do their bidding. Thus, the proliferation of nuclear-armed nations slowed this rush towards globalism down and forced them to change tactics. They needed something the whole of mankind could unite behind…i.e., an existential global crisis.

Enter the global weather crisis.

Climate Climate Climate​

This first came about in the 1970s in the form of global cooling. The threat throughout the 1970s was that the world was on the verge of freezing over. When nature didn’t cooperate (because the world was warming up), they switched the narrative to global warming. However, it wasn’t warming up fast enough, or evenly enough around the world. Neither were the icebergs melting fast enough, nor polar bears drowning dramatically enough for people to keep caring.

When that didn’t panic the masses, or the weather didn’t cooperate with their agenda, they changed it to the catch-all “climate change.” However, the climate change crisis narrative suicided itself, because, it didn’t matter if it was a hurricane, earthquake, meteor strike, systemic racism, LGBTQ inequalities, extremism, or tornados, everything that could be linked somehow to climate change, was. And just like the word “racist,” when everything is racist, nothing is racist. When everything is a climate crisis, nothing is a climate crisis.

Nevertheless, climate change is the framework in which they are determined to build their new world order around. This is why we’ve seen endless global cities hosting non-binding climate treaties attempting to perpetuate the climate hysteria for as long as they can. This is why the United Nations and World Economic Forum, are adamant about implementing their equally endless list of rebranded environmental programs, such as Agenda 2020/2030, the Great Reset, Strong Cities Network, Green New Deal, and so forth.

So strong is this conviction amongst this generation of globalists, that college students and millennials are holding grieving sessions for “mother earth.” Churches are allowing earth-baptisms (using dirt) to purge our violations against nature. Days are dedicated to it. Trillions of dollars are aimed at curbing naturally occurring carbon dioxide. And even amidst the ongoing Russia-Ukraine conflict, Biden’s climate czar John Kerry (Al Gore 2.0) seems more concerned about this war’s effects on the climate than the senseless loss of life and ongoing atrocities being committed —

“But it could have a profound negative impact on the climate obviously. You have a war and obviously, you’re going to have massive emissions consequences to the war. But equally importantly, you’re going to lose people’s focus, you’re going to lose certainly big country attention because they will be diverted and I think it could have a damaging impact,” he continued. “So, you know, I think hopefully President Putin would realize that in the northern part of his country, they used to live on 66% of the nation that was over frozen land.”

Either John Kerry’s naiveté is just that, a naïve, useful idiot, or he is putting on a façade regarding the globalists’ use of war (crisis) as a means to further their agenda. Likely, there are multiple agendas at play here, and climate change is just one of them. The other useful purposes globalists have for war are both regime change and economic reform. And by economic reform, I mean a complete overhaul.

Omelets​

The first half of the 20th century saw the decline of two major empires — the British and the Ottoman Empires. In the last half of the 20th-century, the world order was predominantly American. At the end of World War II, the US propositions of the Bretton Woods Agreement, the Marshall Plan, the United Nations, NATO, and a whole host of other agendas, prominently featured the United States as the “leader of the free world.” And leading America like a hook in the jaw, was the “almighty dollar.”

For the globalist, a United States-led global government would be fine, IF we abandoned all pretenses of:

– American Exceptionalism (i.e., not that we are exceptional, but that we are the exception)
– Nationalism (America First)
– Our Judeo-Christian heritage
– Our Constitution

But since we can’t (our constitution and separation of powers prevent this), and we won’t (too many “red-blooded American patriots”), then America must be fundamentally weakened and destroyed from within so they can pilfer and harvest what they need from us, and relocate said power elsewhere. As the old adage says, you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. They intend to promulgate as much chaos and violence as possible, to bring about their global order.

But just as Mr. Schlesinger stated earlier, we are not going to get this new world order without first paying for it with blood. Not their blood of course (i.e., the elites), but ours…the people…the common folk. In fact, the only exception to this trend throughout the last 100+ years was the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. The rest of the 20th century’s greatest moments of transformative change has come at the cost of much blood and destruction.

– Out of World War I (1914-18), we got a redefined Middle East (sans Ottoman Empire), a League of Nations, and the Versailles Treaty

– Out of the 1919 Versailles Treaty, we got the Third Reich and World War II

– Out of World War II, we got Bretton Woods Agreement, the United Nations, NATO, the European Common Market (i.e., the European Union’s progenitor), and the atomic bomb

And lots of blood spilled to get there.

Nevertheless, those starry-eyed, pipe-smoking, mustache-twirling globalists who thought they had arrived at global governance back when Woodrow Wilson was giving his “Thousand Points of Light” speech, must have realized shortly before WWII their time was not yet. Perhaps they knew that the political will was there, but the technology had not yet quite caught up. Perhaps they gleaned this notion from the ideas put forth by writers such as HG Wells, Aldous Huxley, Ayn Rand, and George Orwell who all foresaw a dystopic/utopic version of the future where government truly becomes the all-encompassing “Big Brother.”

Nevertheless, seeing the potential in future technology, they must have come to the realization that they weren’t there yet. At the very least, the globalists of the 20th century were not alone in envisioning what the world of the future might look like.

“A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.” – Aldous Huxley, Brave New World

Makes you wonder what Klaus Schwab is reading?

“You will own nothing and be happy” – Klaus Schwab

Conclusion​

When reading Jesus’ comments in the Olivet Discourse, particularly the opening remarks about wars, rumors of wars, the love of many growing cold, false christs, famines, pestilence, and global deception, one does not think of a stable, peaceful world. In fact, it states quite the opposite; a world in great turmoil. Luke’s account goes into even greater detail speaking of distress among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves.

Perhaps Jesus was speaking to the purposeful and calculated chaos wicked men (and their leader Lucifer) would intentionally bring about in order to set the stage for the final Luciferian kingdom? Granted, there are the natural phenomena that would be occurring (earthquakes, cosmological signs, etc.) as a result of the sin curse upon the earth, but the other signs are clearly the results of willful mismanagement, authoritarian governance, human greed, and great violence.

The 20th century has been the most violent century in human history. Even if we exclude the hundreds of millions (perhaps billions) of abortions, our earth has become so saturated with blood, that it must be screaming for redemption. Thankfully, we know that the machinations of evil men will end in their destruction (Psalm 2, Rev. 19), but in the interim, know that when the world gets to this point, something amazing is about to occur.

“For the eagerly awaiting creation waits for the revealing of the sons and daughters of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. And not only that, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons and daughters, the redemption of our body.” – Romans 8:19-23

God’s order will come out of this present chaos.

Even so, Maranatha!

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athenasius

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Lots of plans this last century from globalists, most of which are words by a select few.

They can have all the plans they want, but His plans are the only ones I focus on.
I look at their plans, and then watch and see what The Restrainer does. People get frantic about what the globalists are busy plotting, about how the WEF is bringing down currencies and a lot of other fears. Or what Putin will do.

When you actually track these fears and rumours over the decades, you begin to see an AMAZING pattern.

Is there inflation? Yes, and it may get bad, but it still hasn't managed to collapse the world economy in that Reset everyone keeps fussing and fuming about.

Have we been thru nuclear threats before? we sure have --from that Cuban Missile Crisis in the 60's on up to the little Dumpling of Doom in North Korea waving his toys around. Iran has had some setbacks at the hand of Israel, so did Iraq. The current crisis with Putin and his nukes are another example. The leaders can only do what God allows.

What will God allow on this side of the Rapture? We don't know but He is in full control, not the globalists or Putin etc. If God is allowing things to move into place for the Tribulation-- the Rapture is even closer.

As Pete points out in the above article:
Nevertheless, the work of these globalists (most of whom are long dead now) since at least 1913 was not all in vain. All of their efforts were instrumental in one degree or another, in both laying the foundation for world governance, as well as setting the precedence for the need for one. In financing revolutions, provoking wars (Iraq, Ukraine?), and enabling global political and economic instability (Arab Spring, 2020 race riots, COVID lockdowns), these globalists were in effect, attempting to create the requisite antithesis (disorder) so mankind would come running to them for the pre-planned synthesis (global order), which is what they wanted from the beginning.

A certain amount of stage setting, moving the global furniture around to be in place ready for the Church to be Raptured out of here.
 

Hidden

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I look at their plans, and then watch and see what The Restrainer does. People get frantic about what the globalists are busy plotting, about how the WEF is bringing down currencies and a lot of other fears. Or what Putin will do.

That's a level-headed way of seeing things. We should not panic, set dates, and be sensationalistic about events.

However, I've seen another extreme: Some would just completely ignore the headlines and even quash discussions about it, even in these forum sadly. I see it as an extreme because these geo-political shakeups are clearly early rumblings of the formation of the New World Order. They are in themselves signs of the tribulation.

It's true that the globalists can only go as far as the Restrainer will allow them, but the fact that a large segment of humanity is itching for a new global order is a big sign that we are approaching the end. The year 2020 was a seminal moment that changed things profoundly. It's like a big dam that broke that will pave the way for even bigger dams in the future to break.
 

Lastcall

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but the fact that a large segment of humanity is itching for a new global order is a big sign that we are approaching the end. The year 2020 was a seminal moment that changed things profoundly. It's like a big dam that broke that will pave the way for even bigger dams in the future to break.
I dont agree a large segment want a global government. Even in the USA, and amongst just liberals, those clamoring for a OWG are the minority of their party.

I still hold the view that some groups, rich in power, will continue to push for a OWG. However, only a small handful of countries would willingly give up their sovereignty. No, IMO, it will take a major world event to present the world with the need for a OWG - the rapture is at the top of my list as to what could cause such a need for a OWG. Until then, I like many others will continue to monitor what appears to be happening, but inside, I will be laughing at their futlie efforts to achieve a OWG before the church is gone.
 

JoyJoyJoy

I Shall Not Be Moved
dont agree a large segment want a global government. Even in the USA, and amongst just liberals, those clamoring for a OWG are the minority of their party.

I wonder how many people even understand the ramifications of OWG?

We, as prophecy *nuts* understand the end game.

People (some, not all) in America have been dumbed down and conditioned to rely on the govmint to 'do what's best'.. the unsaved do not have their eyes opened and probably can't understand what's going on....its a spiritual battle.

Oh I am thankful for my salvation and to know better times are coming for us.
 

Chris

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I dont agree a large segment want a global government. Even in the USA, and amongst just liberals, those clamoring for a OWG are the minority of their party.

I still hold the view that some groups, rich in power, will continue to push for a OWG. However, only a small handful of countries would willingly give up their sovereignty. No, IMO, it will take a major world event to present the world with the need for a OWG - the rapture is at the top of my list as to what could cause such a need for a OWG. Until then, I like many others will continue to monitor what appears to be happening, but inside, I will be laughing at their futlie efforts to achieve a OWG before the church is gone.

I agree with you Andy. I think most people in the USA and even the world, don't have any interest in a OWG. It's just mainly a small group of celebrities, elites, and politicians who want more and more control. These people have had a taste of "power" and like everything else that is addicting, it is never enough. They think they know better than the rest of us. :ohno

Satan has always wanted to be worshipped. This is his number 1 mission. When the world is broken down into many different regions and countries, it is hard to get the world to do that. So, bringing everyone in together under "one banner" seems to be his plan. First, he will do it politically like with the OWG to get everyone on board together in one direction. Then he will move to the religious front for his ultimate plan of being worshipped like God. I think this is why we see the AC mentioned first and then the FP is mentioned second. It seems to me to be all about being worshipped like God. I think it all goes back to Satan's words when he gave his five "I will..." statements that are found in the Bible. :sad
 

Hidden

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I dont agree a large segment want a global government. Even in the USA, and amongst just liberals, those clamoring for a OWG are the minority of their party.

I still hold the view that some groups, rich in power, will continue to push for a OWG. However, only a small handful of countries would willingly give up their sovereignty. No, IMO, it will take a major world event to present the world with the need for a OWG - the rapture is at the top of my list as to what could cause such a need for a OWG. Until then, I like many others will continue to monitor what appears to be happening, but inside, I will be laughing at their futlie efforts to achieve a OWG before the church is gone.

I guess it's to hard quantify but say 20 to 25% of the world's population leans towards the left, that is still fairly large and definitely makes a significant impact on culture and politics. There are varying degrees of leftism - some are full-on leftists, others are borderline but wouldn't mind going in that direction if it meant "progress".

Although they're smaller in size than centrists and conservatives, we've already seen how they can affect almost everyone on the planet. The only thing holding them back from completely making life miserable on earth is the restraining force of the Restrainer.

As a forum, we should monitor these things thoughtfully, with less sensationalism but with a firm grasp on the Bible and what it says about prophecy.
 
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