Ordered a New Laptop

sawas

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It's probably a tv... but I use it as a monitor... I say probably because I'm not real familiar with what makes it a tv. The last place I lived in that had a tv where I could flip the channels was a black and white one with tubes in the back that we could replace when they fried.

One of the locals I provide IT support for runs a desktop with two screens that don't match. If I ran with two or three screens they would have to match and I'm not even OCD...
Yeah, poked at that this a bit before going to bed last night. Hard to see much of a difference in regard to resolution, which I expected based on long out-of-date experience. Now, of course, many (so-called) "Smart TV's" have a handful of streaming apps along with the tuner plus somewhat different or additional inputs, etc. Despite fewer features, I'm not seeing much advantage (if any) with monitors. The opposite seems to be true. I'd prefer (the idea at least) something stripped down for features, with UHD resolution, to use as a monitor (as you're doing).
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
I complained about my control and fn keys earlier... on my previous laptops the control key was where the fn key is on this one. Turns out that with Lenovo Vantage Software I can toggle a switch that will swap the two key's functions. I guess I'll just teach my fingers the different location for the control key since I can't physically switch the two keys themselves.
 

DanLMP

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I complained about my control and fn keys earlier... on my previous laptops the control key was where the fn key is on this one. Turns out that with Lenovo Vantage Software I can toggle a switch that will swap the two key's functions. I guess I'll just teach my fingers the different location for the control key since I can't physically switch the two keys themselves.

I bet if you do a search for physically moving the keys on your laptop model you will find a YT that shows you how.

If you break it it's your fault and not mine. ;)
 

3 Nails 4 Given

Sinner saved by the blood of Jesus
I complained about my control and fn keys earlier... on my previous laptops the control key was where the fn key is on this one. Turns out that with Lenovo Vantage Software I can toggle a switch that will swap the two key's functions. I guess I'll just teach my fingers the different location for the control key since I can't physically switch the two keys themselves.
Sure you can it’s only a little solder on a boardpcbash:electric
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
Sure you can it’s only a little solder on a boardpcbash:electric

I'd consider that, but the keys are a different size and they partially sit in an opening that is the appropriate size for each key. Maybe if I had one of those printers that prints pieces and parts I could design a new carbon fiber case and print it out. Of course, I'd probably damage some internal components and have to purchase another Thinkpad and start this thread all over again and I don't think folks would be happy with that. I need to give you all a rest for a few years before I drop a new laptop and specs onto the forum... :hehee
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
If you've read through this thread you know that a half a year ago or so I purchased a new laptop, a pretty nice one, but I wasn't happy with the amount ($$$) I paid for it. Starting a few minutes ago I've become quite pleased with what I paid for it and the fact that I have it. The next generation of said laptop is now available and when I customized it to have the best of everything offered as this one had for its generation, the price of the newly released gen 4 model came in around $25000, or many times what I paid for my current "budget" laptop. So, I'm finally satisfied with my purchase!
 

Batman

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TT, looking for a recommendation for a simple laptop for one-hour zoom meetings once or twice a week. Got any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
Would an iPad or Notebook be able to do that? I have a MacBook Air and it works great for Zoom and Skype, etc. and a few folks have told me it was overkill for such needs.......but my job hunting worked best to have it instead of an iPad.
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
TT, looking for a recommendation for a simple laptop for one-hour zoom meetings once or twice a week. Got any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

I don't have any knowledge with regards to the Apple universe if you lean in that position. On the Windows side, any inexpensive laptop would easily accomplish zoom meets. Lately I've found Costco to offer the most bang for the buck on laptops, when they have them on sale, and they always have some on sale.

Since COVID came to be, and prior to that tariffs on goods made in China, the laptop offerings have been changing quite a bit. They cost more now and have less inside them.

If you want to go Windows, tell me what size display you would prefer and I'll look and see what Costco is offering.
 

Belle of Grace

Longing for Home
If you want to go Windows, tell me what size display you would prefer and I'll look and see what Costco is offering.
Thanks, TT. I don't know the answer to your questions (size of display desired or whether I want Windows or Apple iOS. I appreciate your offer to check Costco sales, but I think I'm just going to need to spend some actual in person time with the laptops in general, since it's a first time purchase, and I don't know enough about what I really want yet. But thank you again.
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
On account of I decided I want the laptop I purchased back in March (the subject of this thread) to last for many years, I decided to get a small laptop just for traveling with enough hard drive space to be able to travel with potentially essential software apps and documents only installed.

I ended up with the HP ENVY 13.3" Touchscreen Intel Evo Platform Laptop.

intel core i7-1165G7 1080p
16 GB memory
1 TB NVMe SSD

It's got a fingerprint reader because I've gotten used to that for logging in. I'll say the fingerprint reader works a lot better than the lenovo fingerprint reader. The HP reader has no trouble at all recognizing my print. It's first time every time and I don't get a message that pops up telling me to clean the reader.

I like the size because I can put it in a sleeve and toss it into my usual carry on bag... so now I'm only carrying one bag and overall it's a lot lighter compared to carrying a laptop workstation around.

I really like the keyboard. The way it is designed they managed to make the keys large in a small space. Real easy to type on. The identification markings for each key is very light though so if I need to look for a key it can be difficult, and when it is lit up it doesn't help that much because of the shade of the white light... but that's not overly bothersome.

Overall I'm happy with it and it should be good during my travels, of which I foresee doing a lot of over the next couple of years, at least.

Having a backup laptop marks my divorce with desktop computers. I unplugged my desktop and put it aside for parts for the last couple of desktops that are still functional and in the house.
 

Carl

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Gee I never had a vacuum tube fry! Some would short between elements. But mostly they would eventually deplete the electrons on the cathode and stop working well.
 

Jonathan

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If you've read through this thread you know that a half a year ago or so I purchased a new laptop, a pretty nice one, but I wasn't happy with the amount ($$$) I paid for it. Starting a few minutes ago I've become quite pleased with what I paid for it and the fact that I have it. The next generation of said laptop is now available and when I customized it to have the best of everything offered as this one had for its generation, the price of the newly released gen 4 model came in around $25000, or many times what I paid for my current "budget" laptop. So, I'm finally satisfied with my purchase!$
$25,000?
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven

Oh yeah. Honest. I went back to the site and tried to price it again to see if there was a change and they're not offering anything with the amount of memory and storage I have now. I really don't understand it. I've never built a notebook, but if there are kits out there, the various components are easily available and you could pack a lot of memory, storage, and a good video card into a laptop without it being overly expensive... So I don't understand the crazy high prices on some of these.
 

Jonathan

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Oh yeah. Honest. I went back to the site and tried to price it again to see if there was a change and they're not offering anything with the amount of memory and storage I have now. I really don't understand it. I've never built a notebook, but if there are kits out there, the various components are easily available and you could pack a lot of memory, storage, and a good video card into a laptop without it being overly expensive... So I don't understand the crazy high prices on some of these.
For what it is worth Timbers, I have built several computers from the ground up. In fact, with the exception of an HP I needed for college and my first couple of Tandy's (remember Radio Shack?), every other normal PC I have ever had was the result research, then picking and choosing the best components - everything from the heat sink/fan to the RAM to the HD, Processor, motherboard, etc.

However, with that said, I can't imagine what it would be like to build a laptop from scratch. Don't get me wrong, I am sure it is doable, but normal (non-laptop) builds have the advantage of this; If you can build one, the rest are easy. Sure, there may be a few new things to consider, like artic-silver thermal paste for example, but it is doable once you know how.

In my experience, the greatest costs of a custom build are the processor and the graphics card. Even high-end RAM has become much more affordable and SSD drives are insanely affordable.

Luckily, I am quite content and thankful to God for my modest setup. I hate getting older, but one of the things I have noticed is my interest in gaming has declined. I am not sure if this is a good thing or not. Whatever it is, it has the added benefit of allowing me to feel good about buying a solid, mid-range PC and not needing a super expensive gaming rig.

In any case,

I would have NO idea how to do a laptop. But $25,000 is ridiculous. Even if I had infinite money, I wouldn't pay that based on principle.
 
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