Obama lets the cat out of the bag

Meg

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Obama lets the cat out of the bag - Right Turn - The Washington Post

So far, I have not been able to find the full text of the interview, but this editorial from the Washington Post is superb:

There is a moral case to be made here as well. Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), picking up where he left off in his interview with Jim Pethokoukis, took to Facebook. It’s worth reading in full, but here is the core of the argument:

The President recently suggested that a central government — not individuals — deserves the credit for building successful businesses. This sentiment makes for terrible economics, but also reveals a confused morality. In a free community, everyone co-operates by voluntarily offering unique gifts: some invent, some invest, others labor, or sell while customers reward the best producers and providers by buying their products and services. . . . A free economy and strong communities are the best means to reward effort with justice, to promote upward mobility, and to build solidarity among citizens. The President’s vision of a government-centered society — reflected in both his troubling rhetoric and his failed policies — belittles fair rewards for labor and enterprise.
There it is — the argument against Obama’s collectivism. Whether Ryan is on the ticket or not, he is already articulating the best message Romney can deliver, made possible by the president’s own words.

This is not an isolated Obama “gaffe,” of course. Obama’s philosophy has been spelled out again and again. Recall the “Life of Julia” Web site in which the Obama campaign tooted its own horn in the “make them wards of the state” department.

And he has repeatedly argued individual effort is swamped by collective action with government as the driving force. In his bore-a-thon in Cleveland he declared at one point during th 54-minute ordeal: “We constructed railroads and highways, the Hoover Dam and the Golden Gate Bridge. We did those things together. We sent my grandfather’s generation to college on the GI Bill — together. (Applause.) We instituted a minimum wage and rules that protected people’s bank deposits — together. (Applause.) Together, we touched the surface of the moon, unlocked the mystery of the atom, connected the world through our own science and imagination.”
Here is another good discussion of the Paul Ryan interview:

Paul Ryan Went On An Epic Rant Over Obama's Comment About Business
Paul Ryan's Epic Rant Over Obama's Comment About Business And Government - Business Insider

It was Rep. Paul Ryan’s wife, Janna, who first saw — via Twitter — President Obama’s recent comments about American entrepreneurs, that “if you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”
And the Wisconsin Republican — thought to be on Mitt Romney’s running-mate short list — couldn’t believe it. He thought someone must “have been putting words in the president’s mouth.”
But Obama said it all. And Ryan absolutely tore into the president in a chat I had with him earlier today. Among the highlights:

– “The idea that these entrepreneurs owe all their success to some government bureaucrat or some centralized planner just defies reality.”
– “Every now and then, President Obama pierces the veil. He’s usually pretty coy about his ideology, but he lets the veil slip from time to time.”
– “We believe in free communities and this is a statist attack on free communities.”
– “He’s deluded himself into thinking that his so-called enemies are these crazy individualists who believe in some dog-eat-dog society when what he’s really doing is basically attacking people like entrepreneurs and stacking up a list of scapegoats to blame for his failures.”
– “As all of his big government spending programs fail to restore jobs and growth, he seems to be retreating into a statist vision of government direction and control of a free society that looks backward to the failed ideologies of the 20th century.”
– “Those of us who are conservative believe in government, we just believe government has limits. We want government to do what it does well and respect its limits so civil society and families can flourish on their own and do well and achieve their potential.”
– “He wants to be as transformational as Reagan by undoing the entire Reagan revolution.”
Now here are some longer excerpts:
 

Obie

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:shocked Oh my! Meg, that practically says that Obama hung the moon. Perhaps we need to give the fellow a little more credit for his god-like talents.

Actually, I grieve for this country in these times. I feel like the prophet Jeremiah who wept for Jerusalem. A country so blessed by our Lord, now a country that openly shakes it's fist in His face.
 

Carl

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1 And it came to pass, when Samuel was old, that he made his sons judges over Israel.
2 Now the name of his firstborn was Joel; and the name of his second, Abiah: they were judges in Beersheba.
3 And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.
4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,
5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.
1 Sam 8:1-5 (KJV)

4 And the men of David said unto him, Behold the day of which the LORD said unto thee, Behold, I will deliver thine enemy into thine hand, that thou mayest do to him as it shall seem good unto thee. Then David arose, and cut off the skirt of Saul's robe privily.
5 And it came to pass afterward, that David's heart smote him, because he had cut off Saul's skirt.
6 And he said unto his men, The LORD forbid that I should do this thing unto my master, the LORD'S anointed, to stretch forth mine hand against him, seeing he is the anointed of the LORD.
7 So David stayed his servants with these words, and suffered them not to rise against Saul. But Saul rose up out of the cave, and went on his way.
1 Sam 24:4-7 (KJV)
 

Meg

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:shocked Oh my! Meg, that practically says that Obama hung the moon. Perhaps we need to give the fellow a little more credit for his god-like talents.

Actually, I grieve for this country in these times. I feel like the prophet Jeremiah who wept for Jerusalem. A country so blessed by our Lord, now a country that openly shakes it's fist in His face.
Um, Obie, I think you completely misunderstood the whole article. Obama is a Socialist, and Rep Ryan has done a superb job of explaining why that;s true and why Zero is dangerous.
 

forensics

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