Navy Warships Could Head into the Black Sea as Russia-Ukraine Tensions Escalate

Lovin Jesus

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The U.S. Navy is reportedly considering moving two ships into the Black Sea after Russia announced it was sending 10 vessels there amid a buildup of forces near Ukraine.

Navy ships could be headed to the Black Sea in the next few weeks, CNN reported Thursday. The move is meant to show support for Ukraine as Russian troops assemble near the country's eastern border, an unnamed defense official told the outlet.
The Navy maintains a regular presence in the Black Sea, said Lt. Cmdr. Matthew Comer, a spokesman for U.S. 6th Fleet, though he declined to respond to questions about whether any ships are heading there now.

"As a matter of policy, we do not discuss future operations or ship schedules," Comer said.
The Navy abides by the Montreux Convention, he added, which requires that Turkey be given 14 days' notice of plans to transit straits into the sea. The Middle East Eye, a London-based outlet that covers the region, reported Friday that the U.S. notified Turkey more than two weeks ago of plans to send two warships to the Black Sea. The ships, according to the outlet, will remain there until May 5.

"One US warship will arrive on 14 April, and another on 15 April to the Black Sea. And they will leave on 4 May and 5 May, respectively," an unnamed Turkish Foreign Ministry source told the Middle East Eye.
Russia's defense ministry announced Thursday that 10 vessels, including landing and artillery boats, from the Caspian Flotilla would be moving into the Black Sea. The ministry said the vessels will be there for a training exercise.

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said Thursday that the U.S. is "increasingly concerned by recent escalating Russian aggressions in eastern Ukraine, including Russian troop movements on Ukraine's border."
"Russia now has more troops on the border with Ukraine than at any time since 2014," Psaki said. "Five Ukrainian soldiers have been killed this week alone. These are all deeply concerning signs."
Russia in 2014 carried out an annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula, which President Joe Biden slammed in February on the seventh anniversary of the invasion as a violation of international law and sovereignty.

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Footsteps

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We can all take comfort in having a decisive, level-headed Commander-in-Chief who has already demonstrated his acumen relative to border security. He simply instructs his staff that a border is "closed" and it's a done deal.
I can imagine Vlad in his conference room laughing with his generals: "Hey Ivan - better tell your pilots not to buzz any American ships! JoJo the Pinhead Boy keeps his nuclear football under his bed next to his high school catcher's mitt and Maalox! BWAHAHAHA!!!!"
 

athenasius

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My bet is that Russia is testing Biden's resolve. I also think that the naming of the tribes and people groups involved in the Gog Magog invasion (really like the Nathan Jones series that Chris posted-- been reading those offline) have the potential to include the Ukraine.

It would also make troop movements easier, coming and going down thru the sea ports along the Ukraine as those give access via sea thru the Dardenelles into the Med and from there to Syria (and ISRAEL later).

So while this is downright nasty for the Ukrainians who looked to NATO and the US to help them navigate a path to freedom, it's doubtful especially under Biden that they will survive Russia's takeover.

Like the early days of WW2 where Hitler rolled into various countries and annexed them without any reaction from other countries. I'm thinking of "peace in our time" as Chamberlain put it while Germany took over one country after another.

Biden will buy peace (and time) at the expense of others who rely on him to come to their aid.
 

DWB

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I wonder if anyone has asked the Russians why they are near the border? It may be war games similar to what we do with So. Korea that the No. Koreans get so upset about. I would like to see the U.S. have a better relationship with Russia, we should have more in common than we have differences. Just think if Russia was our friend instead of our so called enemy what could be accomplished in regards to world stability.

Then again I'm just a grease monkey/farmer who knows nothing about such weighty matters.
 

Wings Like Eagles

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Supposedly, the Crimeans consider themselves to be Russians, as they are ethnically Russian and speak Russian, not Ukrainian. There was a referendum in the Crimea (organized by Moscow) that ended up at around 95% of Crimeans voting to join the Russian Federation. Reportedly, Ukraine has, for many years, been considered to be one of the most corrupt nations on the planet and the people of Crimea want no part in belonging to Ukraine. Without actually speaking to the average person in the street, it is not easy to know the truth about anything anymore--and even then, peoples' opinions are shaped by lies from the mass media. :idunno
 

athenasius

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Supposedly, the Crimeans consider themselves to be Russians, as they are ethnically Russian and speak Russian, not Ukrainian. There was a referendum in the Crimea (organized by Moscow) that ended up at around 95% of Crimeans voting to join the Russian Federation. Reportedly, Ukraine has, for many years, been considered to be one of the most corrupt nations on the planet and the people of Crimea want no part in belonging to Ukraine. Without actually speaking to the average person in the street, it is not easy to know the truth about anything anymore--and even then, peoples' opinions are shaped by lies from the mass media. :idunno
Well there is some back story to that too, and it involves a long time movement of ethnic Russians into the area. Much like the Germans did prior to annexation of various territories prior to WW2. Over the decades, slowly invaded. Then a campaign to beg "mother Russia" to come in and rescue them and restore order. Doesn't help that the Ukrainian govt has been crooked as a dogs hind leg for decades too.
 

Wings Like Eagles

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Well there is some back story to that too, and it involves a long time movement of ethnic Russians into the area. Much like the Germans did prior to annexation of various territories prior to WW2. Over the decades, slowly invaded. Then a campaign to beg "mother Russia" to come in and rescue them and restore order. Doesn't help that the Ukrainian govt has been crooked as a dogs hind leg for decades too.
England did the same kind of thing in Northern Ireland--with the same results. For three hundred years, the Irish have hated the English for lots of outrageous acts--but the one which harmed them the most is deliberately being starved by the English. Deliberately-caused famines are a favorite method of genocide for despotic rulers. The Irish potato famine was a result of the English shipping their potatoes abroad. The Irish had been subsisting on potatoes and dairy products for many centuries, but the potato famine forced them into indentured servitude (basically slavery for a set period of time) in the English colonies of America. The English did the same thing--only worse in India through the British East India Company. Millions upon millions of Indians died of starvation because their food was taken from them and shipped abroad. Stalin took a leaf out of that notebook and starved to death approximately 20 million Ukrainians. That is probably why the Ukrainians hate the Russians--more for that reason than for any other. You probably know this but the Ukrainians call it the Holodomor. They were mostly Christians who died.
 
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