Nashville Christian school shooting

[Círeth]

So very sad..this really hit home for me as my wife is a teacher @ a Christian preschool. They literally Just had an active shooter drill last week (their code name for it is "Rabbit in the hole" which is an adorable term for hiding in a locked room.)

I see that CNN has chosen to inform their public that this is the 1238th (or 129th) mass shooting in the USA THIS YEAR. (They, in their journalistic integrity have two diff figures; 1 for the headline and the other when you click the article) Whatever the figure is, That's crazy. And needless to say, the liberals have wasted no time in pontificating about how the cause has to be the fact that our citizenry has access to firearms and not the fact that the mental illness and/or evil in this woman's heart was the cause of this tragedy.

Evil is accelerating w/o a doubt, maybe the enemy realizes his chance to directly harm Christians is going to be up soon.

Thing is if the mentally ill are armed they can do things like this. If they're not they can't.

We banned hanguns in the UK after the Dunblaine shootings and we haven't had an incident with handguns like it since.

 

[GHoe]

yesterday, and one of the women that was shown doing interviews with several different stations, was a “protégé of Pelosi (seen recently in a pic together). Apparently she was able to get through TOTALLY stopped traffic in the area and had a script she referred to when on camera. I wish I could find the report again, but this sounds weird, since it is said she doesn’t live here, nor has any connections.

Yeah I saw mention of her on Twitter as some conspiracy theory started to take root. Then I saw her antics unfold as she out of no where gave a perfectly scripted speech about gun control. She claimed to be from (or near) Highland Park Illinois where last year there was a mass shooting and just happened to be in that area of TN visiting family with her family (?something to that effect).. She also mentioned she had been lobbying Washington for more gun control and it did kind of seem weird that she just happened to be there to capitalize in free airtime and people talking about her.

 

[kathymendel]

It is interesting to me is that we are not hearing of these kinds of mass shootings happening in other countries on such a big scale,
as they are here in the U.S. Occasionally maybe, but nothing like here. We are not making this a priority...........not our politicians, our
police, our judicial system, our mental health system.............nothing. Parents are not raising their kids with moral values, and are even
leaving guns sitting around their houses. Kids have been being entitled for decades now, with no consequences for bad behavior, and
many of the tech games they are playing have desensitized them to death and destruction. Families don't sit around the table and talk
to each other anymore...........everyone is on their cellphones. Our American society has imploded, and it's so far gone, it's difficult for me
to evenbegin to see things changing for the better.

It amazes me that in Noah's day, things must have been similar................yet no one was willing to listen to Noah. No one was willing to cry
out to God for help. They didn't want things to change...........they were happy in their sacrilege. We seem to be the same. Please come Lord Jesus.

 

[mphsmom]

I read this morning that they are not going to release the manifesto. Doesn't surprise me at all.

 

[Jan51]

I think TPTB are hesitant to reveal the warlike component of the trans movement.

I have a good friend that recently went trans, came out on Facebook, and she then attacked me for hating her and for being in favor of legislation that would threaten her existence. I called her on that--that we have discussed many differences of opinion over the years and she never saw it as hate, and told her I have no idea what legislation she is referring to. I had the feeling that she now has talking points from her circle. It was kind of weird. But yes she had mental problems already--past suicide attempts, and years of drugs for bipolar, is rather dramatic, scattered, has grandiose ideas about her value and her abilities, unable to follow through on many of her plans, etc. I always pray for her, she has rejected the gospel.

 

[lightofmylife]

I read this morning that they are not going to release the manifesto. Doesn't surprise me at all.

I am not surprised either they don't want us to know the real motive.

 

[Wally]

The mentally ill find other weapons.

Each culture needs to look at its self and find the mechanism that works. Our country is so rife with crime that banning guns disarms only the law abiding populace.

And since much of the populace has zero or less trust in law enforcement and the political machines governing them, they will instantly become criminals when they hide their firearms.

Our nation is know for bureaucracy. Certification, licensing, and the ability to revoke are tools we can use right away.

Unfortunately politics and elitism invade any process, and just knowing the right people can bypass this system - good or bad.

Red flagging is another option, to be able to get someone help before they fly off, or at least intervene in the process can be a great way to stop these incidents.
However if you have been swatted, red-flags becomes a tactic that is easily abused.
Not only that, but like the scene in Hurt Locker where the local driver is drug forcibly from his car after almost ramming the EOD soldier:
"If he wasn't a jihadist before, he is now..." if the response to the flagged individual is cruel and unjust, you breed a shooting, instead of stopping one.

And lets say we make manufacturing and possession illegal, It doesnt' work. Just look at the drugs on our streets... and the illegal guns to cover distribution.

As I've seen what a black-powder musket can do to a washing machine, one almost thinks there is nothing that can be done in this country.

That is the curse of Congress. They try to solve it all at once and nothing get done. And then you have the Independent States.
Even the PA Commonwealth states in its constitution the right to keep and bear arms is without question.

So we need to take little steps. Maybe it starts with classification, anyone can have a bolt action .22, or a break action shotgun. Higher power rifles may require licensing,
Military types need a special certification, handguns need training and permit. Again that will only affect the law abiding.

For the others, mandatory prison sentence, and fines for violations.
A red flag process that does its best without abuse, and a quick return of arms and punishment of false flag callers.

Accountability of police to public and involving the public with the police to build trust and working ways to keep people safe.

And of course open discussion and treatment of mental illness. But then that takes sound training and effective methods based on Truth, experience, and less on conjecture and this illusion that man is basically good.

Well so much for the pipe dream. What we really need is each of us to take a trip to the woodshed with God.
To understand who we are and our accountability to Him.

Some of us have done that and now we rightly fear God. We also have seen His love for us and we can now call Him Father.

 

[GHoe]

I read this morning that they are not going to release the manifesto. Doesn't surprise me at all.

It's utterly shameful that in certain scenarios the 3 letter agencies dictate what the public knows so that it can create a political narrative that suits their agendas..

That said, (speaking for myself) I feel like I want to see the manifesto but I'm not sure it's fully for Christian reasons. I don't need the manifesto to know there are radical LGBTQ in this world that absolutely detest God, Jesus and Christians. I promise you, spend 30 minutes on Twitter and you'll find the equivalent of whatever the manifesto states. I don't need the manifesto to pray for the LGBTQ culture. If anything the desire to see it feels more like an itch that I'd like to scratch, similar to my pride and for what reason ? Ultimately.. probably to condemn to be honest.

Honestly, if you want to know what the manifesto says, I'm guessing it's bad, probably along the lines of "you pass these drag show laws to protect your children but you can't protect your children from us and this will show you, we're coming for your kids, Christians". It's probably really evil. I'm not sure confirming that will benefit many Christians. We already have eyes to see this world as it is, fallen. The manifesto isn't gonna change that.

 

[Carl]

I have a friend that rejected the Gospel because he didn't want anyone telling him what to do. He wanted to make his own choices. This was back in the mid 50s. At least he had a coherent reason for his decision.

 

[fl2007rn]

I have a good friend that recently went trans, came out on Facebook, and she then attacked me for hating her and for being in favor of legislation that would threaten her existence. I called her on that--that we have discussed many differences of opinion over the years and she never saw it as hate, and told her I have no idea what legislation she is referring to. I had the feeling that she now has talking points from her circle. It was kind of weird. But yes she had mental problems already--past suicide attempts, and years of drugs for bipolar, is rather dramatic, scattered, has grandiose ideas about her value and her abilities, unable to follow through on many of her plans, etc. I always pray for her, she has rejected the gospel.

Psych issues and rejection of the Gospel is a common theme of the trans community. I used to work with a trans person who had constant psychiatric problems, suicide attempt, and could never keep a job for very long. They detest the Bible because their life style is not acceptable to the Lord. I imagine that the shooter in Nashville was angry because her parents and the Church said that her trans life was a sin and that she needed to turn away from that. It must have enraged her and she listened to the demons telling her to shoot up that school.

 

[jayhawkbasketball]

The mentally ill find other weapons.

Each culture needs to look at its self and find the mechanism that works. Our country is so rife with crime that banning guns disarms only the law abiding populace.

And since much of the populace has zero or less trust in law enforcement and the political machines governing them, they will instantly become criminals when they hide their firearms.

Our nation is know for bureaucracy. Certification, licensing, and the ability to revoke are tools we can use right away.

Unfortunately politics and elitism invade any process, and just knowing the right people can bypass this system - good or bad.

Red flagging is another option, to be able to get someone help before they fly off, or at least intervene in the process can be a great way to stop these incidents.
However if you have been swatted, red-flags becomes a tactic that is easily abused.
Not only that, but like the scene in Hurt Locker where the local driver is drug forcibly from his car after almost ramming the EOD soldier:
"If he wasn't a jihadist before, he is now..." if the response to the flagged individual is cruel and unjust, you breed a shooting, instead of stopping one.

And lets say we make manufacturing and possession illegal, It doesnt' work. Just look at the drugs on our streets... and the illegal guns to cover distribution.

As I've seen what a black-powder musket can do to a washing machine, one almost thinks there is nothing that can be done in this country.

That is the curse of Congress. They try to solve it all at once and nothing get done. And then you have the Independent States.
Even the PA Commonwealth states in its constitution the right to keep and bear arms is without question.

So we need to take little steps. Maybe it starts with classification, anyone can have a bolt action .22, or a break action shotgun. Higher power rifles may require licensing,
Military types need a special certification, handguns need training and permit. Again that will only affect the law abiding.

For the others, mandatory prison sentence, and fines for violations.
A red flag process that does its best without abuse, and a quick return of arms and punishment of false flag callers.

Accountability of police to public and involving the public with the police to build trust and working ways to keep people safe.

And of course open discussion and treatment of mental illness. But then that takes sound training and effective methods based on Truth, experience, and less on conjecture and this illusion that man is basically good.

Well so much for the pipe dream. What we really need is each of us to take a trip to the woodshed with God.
To understand who we are and our accountability to Him.

Some of us have done that and now we rightly fear God. We also have seen His love for us and we can now call Him Father.

This community / forum is pro 2nd amendment…and all that legally and morally entails. Just a heads up.

 

[lightofmylife]

I have a friend that rejected the Gospel because he didn't want anyone telling him what to do. He wanted to make his own choices. This was back in the mid 50s. At least he had a coherent reason for his decision.

This is because they do what is right in their eyes, and don't want to be held accountable.

 

[lightofmylife]

Psych issues and rejection of the Gospel is a common theme of the trans community. I used to work with a trans person who had constant psychiatric problems, suicide attempt, and could never keep a job for very long. They detest the Bible because their life style is not acceptable to the Lord. I imagine that the shooter in Nashville was angry because her parents and the Church said that her trans life was a sin and that she needed to turn away from that. It must have enraged her and she listened to the demons telling her to shoot up that school.

I wonder what kept her from killing her parents. Sometimes that happens too. She lived with them so maybe she didn't feel like she could make it on her own.

 

[depserv]

Remember not long ago Hanoi Jane Fonda called for the murder of Christians. She issued that proclamation because of Christians trying to stop the mass murder of unborn babies, not because of their stand against transgenderism, but I think the kind of hate that inspires can spill over into other forms of devil worship. Imagine if a loyal American had said something that could be interpreted as meaning that patriots should kill liberals and then a patriot went into a liberal indoctrination center and killed six liberals, three of them children; how do you think the liberal cult would react to that?

I've seen a few comments suggesting that this trans person was a woman who had been given testosterone, and that women are not designed by God to have that much testosterone, and that this could be one of the reasons these trannies become violent like this. I don't know if this is true; I just thought I'd throw it out there.

It's no surprise that the criminal gang in Washington and its cronies in the liberal press ignore the motives of the killer (or pretend that the motives are justified, even though the murders are not), and demand more civilian disarmament. Most mass murders take place in places that have been sanitized for the protection of the killer by the gun free zone policy, but where that policy is not in effect these killers have been stopped by armed citizens. And our big brother protector wants to expand the gun free zone to include all of America.

So here is something very important to never forget: the biggest mass murders have all been committed by governments, against unarmed people. The hands of anti-gun bigots are filthy with blood.

Given the liberal response to this murder of Christians by a devil worshipper it would not surprise me if there is more of it coming. So guard your schools and churches well, and yourselves and families too.

 

[GHoe]

This verse just came to mind..
"Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places." (Jesus speaking of end times signs)

Everytime I've read or heard studies about Matthew 24:7 I feel like I've been taught that nation = ethnos and that it was races (specifically) fighting or being against each other in end times. After looking a little closer it seems to me that nation defined in the verse's context is more of a group with kinship, cultural similarities or shared traditions and not just race.

With that defintion, the LGBTQ are a "nation" (in the context of the verse) or group just as much as Christians are, thus our being against each other was prophesied. Sure there have been racial division against one another, but this seems to be another blatant version of "nation" against "nation" or "ethnos" against "ethnos".

I found the following regarding the word "ethnos" from a revised english version bible website :

“group will rise against group.” The Greek word translated as “group” is ethnos (#1484 ἔθνος), which has a large number of different meanings. These include the meaning that we feel fits the best in this context: a group of people united by kinship, culture, or traditions. The other meanings of ethnos include: a group or multitude (of people or animals) that is living together or closely associated; the whole human race (thus “people”); a race; a nation; a company, troop, or mass of people; a group of the same nature or ancestry; the unbelievers in contrast to God’s chosen people;

I only bring this up as a reminder that we are living in prophetic time for our departure is closer than it's ever been.

 

[lightofmylife]

It is like 2 teams the light Jesus team and the dark Satan's team I many get on the winning team on this earth and in eternity.

 

[GHoe]

Sadly our Secretary of Defense as well as General
Milley admitted to the House Investigation panel today that drag queen events are occurring on our military bases. $70 million of the requested defense budget is earmarked for diversity training, equity studies, etc. Originally they had denied that this type of event was happening.

I would think using DOD insignia on an event flyer for a military base function that was "not approved" would have some type legal ramifications from DOD or DOJ. If it was a right wing or Christian doing that there would be a price to pay.. Milley and Austin are both liars.

 

[MapleLeaf]

Now I am hearing that the FBI must first “evaluate” the manifesto before it’s released. When will that be - after Joker Joe is out of office, I presume?

After they doodle-edit it to say what they really want it to say.

 

[madcat]

After they doodle-edit it to say what they really want it to say.

The ”word” here in the Nashville area is that the real manifesto will never be released under the current administration, which is pro-left, and they will cater to the bullies on the block. Historically these groups have been allowed to wreak havoc on the citizens. Laying down in the middle of highways to protest etc., and other actions that would result in others being arrested. I assume this will be the same, as they will say the manifesto would be detrimental to the “safety” of the citizens.
City officials in even the more “conservative” suburbs around Nashville are caving in to the demands of the “trans world”. As we speak, in the town of Franklin, south of Nashville, the city alderman are considering giving the green light to a “trans and drag parade” to be held in the center of town. I’m sure there are some threats that may bear on their decision, but I predict in light of the murders this week, the trans faction will get their way.

 

[madcat]

Yeah I saw mention of her on Twitter as some conspiracy theory started to take root. Then I saw her antics unfold as she out of no where gave a perfectly scripted speech about gun control. She claimed to be from (or near) Highland Park Illinois where last year there was a mass shooting and just happened to be in that area of TN visiting family with her family (?something to that effect).. She also mentioned she had been lobbying Washington for more gun control and it did kind of seem weird that she just happened to be there to capitalize in free airtime and people talking about her.

And she apparently had/has “ties” with Rahm Emanuel, and other Obama radicals. What a coincidence to be in the right place, at the right time, to do impromptu interviews with all the media with the same script? There are folks who were on the scene that say she was “ushered” to the different TV news set-ups within 30 minutes of the shooting, so she wasn’t just a bystander.