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[Musician 4 Jesus]

You’re welcome!

Agreed on the camera shy/public internet thingy!

My videos will be just my hands on the keyboard, in fact the keyboard’s the star not me.

I have a real challenge not to mix up my personal persona and my commercial one on-line too!

Don’t mind the company name being known, but not my own nor my face in these untrustworthy times. Don’t blame you at all for not wishing to appear in your videos and songs.

Soon as I have something completed I will post in here how to find it

Ya know what I just may end up doing covers as well after all!!!! You have me a idea I didn't even think about just cutting my head off and just showing the instruments!!! I think I may just do we covers on the TY channel after all hey @alisani ya here that?.


Then it would be safer that way I like that idea!. And like you said the instrument is the star not the person. And I agree I don't mine music being known but not face


I can't wait to see and hear y'alls music. It will be awesome I'm sure!!

 

[Musician 4 Jesus]

I downloaded a Steel Guitar Simulator yesterday, not making anything beautiful though.

I want to be a musician, would love to play the piano and Steel Guitar, but finance’s, age and future living conditions is dimming the vision.

Your never to old to learn a instrument that's how I ended up getting into music is downloading a piano on my phone them poof I ended up wanting to play real instruments lol
If you want any help finding some instruments in your price range let me know.id be happy to help out

 

[Musician 4 Jesus]

Has anyone here used the app. music maker jam. To piece samples together to make a song?

 

[sawas]

Has anyone here used the app. music maker jam. To piece samples together to make a song?

Not familiar with that one. I've been using Presonus Studio One for a long time now and it's enough that I (try to, at least) keep my skills up with it...I seem to keep forgetting things I learned last year (or last week), LOL. FWIW, it's got some great sampling capabilities.

ETA: More on S1 sampling capabilities: These are pretty powerful tools, often needed/desired depending on what kind of sampling you wish to employ. Built into the basic interface (timeline), any audio track can be analyzed and altered in regards to time and pitch. Via a simplified version of Melodyne (included) single notes can also be changed. (Expensive upgrades to Melodyne can expand this analysis/editing quite a bit.) The analysis process also detects transients (with adjustable sensitivity), which allows you to "bend" the timing of individual events in the track and/or slice the track into smaller samples. These can be copied directly to other tracks (as audio) or as samples to be triggered by other instruments. So, as an example, I could slice & dice a bass line into individual notes and install each note on a midi-driven internal or external pad or keyboard.

What sort of sampling do you envision wanting to do?

 

[Musician 4 Jesus]

Not familiar with that one. I've been using Presonus Studio One for a long time now and it's enough that I (try to, at least) keep my skills up with it...I seem to keep forgetting things I learned last year (or last week), LOL. FWIW, it's got some great sampling capabilities.

ETA: More on S1 sampling capabilities: These are pretty powerful tools, often needed/desired depending on what kind of sampling you wish to employ. Built into the basic interface (timeline), any audio track can be analyzed and altered in regards to time and pitch. Via a simplified version of Melodyne (included) single notes can also be changed. (Expensive upgrades to Melodyne can expand this analysis/editing quite a bit.) The analysis process also detects transients (with adjustable sensitivity), which allows you to "bend" the timing of individual events in the track and/or slice the track into smaller samples. These can be copied directly to other tracks (as audio) or as samples to be triggered by other instruments. So, as an example, I could slice & dice a bass line into individual notes and install each note on a midi-driven internal or external pad or keyboard.

What sort of sampling do you envision wanting to do?

Thank you!! I appreciate all the info Im looking into all of this now.

Is this what you were talking about I'm wanting to use it on a laptop.

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Well what I'm wanting to do or trying to anyways is. Let's say I recorded just the guitar parts and then I record the bass parts and add them together. Except I would do that with everything recording the vocals guitar bass keyboard and drums then put them all together and make it one song hope that makes since that's the only way I can think to say it

 

[Musician 4 Jesus]

Not familiar with that one. I've been using Presonus Studio One for a long time now and it's enough that I (try to, at least) keep my skills up with it...I seem to keep forgetting things I learned last year (or last week), LOL. FWIW, it's got some great sampling capabilities.

ETA: More on S1 sampling capabilities: These are pretty powerful tools, often needed/desired depending on what kind of sampling you wish to employ. Built into the basic interface (timeline), any audio track can be analyzed and altered in regards to time and pitch. Via a simplified version of Melodyne (included) single notes can also be changed. (Expensive upgrades to Melodyne can expand this analysis/editing quite a bit.) The analysis process also detects transients (with adjustable sensitivity), which allows you to "bend" the timing of individual events in the track and/or slice the track into smaller samples. These can be copied directly to other tracks (as audio) or as samples to be triggered by other instruments. So, as an example, I could slice & dice a bass line into individual notes and install each note on a midi-driven internal or external pad or keyboard.

What sort of sampling do you envision wanting to do?

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There is this one to.

 

[Musician 4 Jesus]

@mattfivefour is links blocked? The links I posted isn't coming up.

 

[sawas]

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Well, I should back up a step or two and say that there's always more than one way to create music today. In the (not so long ago) 'good old days', LOL, "sampling" was the act of taking small snippets of other songs and using them in a composition. As I described above, this can include something as small as individual notes or, somewhat more traditionally, a whole measure. Today, there's wide availability of whole phrases...which I'm inclined to call "loops". Some are audio phrases that you can purchase are license free for use...though always of variable quality. There's also a bunch of midi "tracks" available, both free and for purchase, that you can use with your software.

So, a zillion ways to do this...all above and beyond the "really old school" process of recording individual tracks yourself...like I used to do with a simple four-track cassette recorder.

Just reviewed a quick tutorial on Music Maker Jam and would imagine that it would be a fun way to quickly put a bunch of samples/loops together...many/most of which I'd imagine you'd have to buy. I don't know enough about it's functionality to know how well or easy it would be to add your own guitar or vocal tracks.

I do know that recording audio (like guitar and vocal) has certain minimum requirements....both hardware and software. At the very least, you need an audio interface as well as software to capture and process it. So, assuming you wish to add those components, don't lose sight of that. The rest - adding drums, bass, keys, effects, etc. - will be handled in some kind of "digital audio workstation" (or DAW). The free app you're considering may or may not be a useful tool for those particular functions. You'll quickly find, I think, that creating a good mix requires access to all kinds of audio tools like compressors, limiters, equalizers, etc. In my opinion, these are best handled in a full-fledged DAW, most of which provide a selection of those basic tools and many of which will provide a good selection of loops and sample built in. As they say, pay once cry once.

But, before jumping in whole hog, many have free trials so you can get a taste of things to come. Also, there are a number of cheap or free ones out there worth considering. I'd suggest reading some articles like this one or this one to get oriented. In the mean time, I'll try to answer any questions you have as you go along.

 

[Musician 4 Jesus]

Well, I should back up a step or two and say that there's always more than one way to create music today. In the (not so long ago) 'good old days', LOL, "sampling" was the act of taking small snippets of other songs and using them in a composition. As I described above, this can include something as small as individual notes or, somewhat more traditionally, a whole measure. Today, there's wide availability of whole phrases...which I'm inclined to call "loops". Some are audio phrases that you can purchase are license free for use...though always of variable quality. There's also a bunch of midi "tracks" available, both free and for purchase, that you can use with your software.

So, a zillion ways to do this...all above and beyond the "really old school" process of recording individual tracks yourself...like I used to do with a simple four-track cassette recorder.

Just reviewed a quick tutorial on Music Maker Jam and would imagine that it would be a fun way to quickly put a bunch of samples/loops together...many/most of which I'd imagine you'd have to buy. I don't know enough about it's functionality to know how well or easy it would be to add your own guitar or vocal tracks.

I do know that recording audio (like guitar and vocal) has certain minimum requirements....both hardware and software. At the very least, you need an audio interface as well as software to capture and process it. So, assuming you wish to add those components, don't lose sight of that. The rest - adding drums, bass, keys, effects, etc. - will be handled in some kind of "digital audio workstation" (or DAW). The free app you're considering may or may not be a useful tool for those particular functions. You'll quickly find, I think, that creating a good mix requires access to all kinds of audio tools like compressors, limiters, equalizers, etc. In my opinion, these are best handled in a full-fledged DAW, most of which provide a selection of those basic tools and many of which will provide a good selection of loops and sample built in. As they say, pay once cry once.

But, before jumping in whole hog, many have free trials so you can get a taste of things to come. Also, there are a number of cheap or free ones out there worth considering. I'd suggest reading some articles like this one or this one to get oriented. In the mean time, I'll try to answer any questions you have as you go along.

I would like to thank you for your help. I'm saveing all this info back. I rather actually talk to someone and ask questions then trying to find things on the net that won't give a straight answer the most anoying thing ever hahah. I'm also saving back the links you at posting here as well. Me really I have no idea at all what so ever what I'm doing or how all this works I'm just wanting to learn how to put music together really. I'm looking at interfaces at the moment and programs and doing research. And I'm getting ready to read the article you posted for me as well.

Haha I actually wanted to do it the old school way because I thought it would be fun buuuuuuut the old way you need a whole room just for that because the stuff you would need fro back is huge such as mixers and sythsizers etc etc.

Actually have a cassette player and cassettes so I'm going to start making playlist with them it's kinda fun to do.


I'm looking into all this stuff right now it's a whole block in my brain but Im sure once I study it more and do more research it will become more clear. I guess it's like learning amp settings and guitar affects. Again thanks for all your help I appreciate it and saveing all the info back.

I'll definitely be asking more questions if I don't bug you to death with so many of them

 

[TheRedeemed]

I would like to thank you for your help. I'm saveing all this info back. I rather actually talk to someone and ask questions then trying to find things on the net that won't give a straight answer the most anoying thing ever hahah. I'm also saving back the links you at posting here as well. Me really I have no idea at all what so ever what I'm doing or how all this works I'm just wanting to learn how to put music together really. I'm looking at interfaces at the moment and programs and doing research. And I'm getting ready to read the article you posted for me as well.

Haha I actually wanted to do it the old school way because I thought it would be fun buuuuuuut the old way you need a whole room just for that because the stuff you would need fro back is huge such as mixers and sythsizers etc etc.

Actually have a cassette player and cassettes so I'm going to start making playlist with them it's kinda fun to do.


I'm looking into all this stuff right now it's a whole block in my brain but Im sure once I study it more and do more research it will become more clear. I guess it's like learning amp settings and guitar affects. Again thanks for all your help I appreciate it and saveing all the info back.

I'll definitely be asking more questions if I don't bug you to death with so many of them

I have learned so much about these issues in the last few weeks too.

Getting an interface/mixer that pre-processes the sound directly into an iPhone in stereo which wasn't happening on my tests without it.

Hopefully my device will arrive soon and hopefully it will work too, cost £100, expensive mistake to make if it doesn't!

All being well I can start recoding my plays

 

[Musician 4 Jesus]

I have learned so much about these issues in the last few weeks too.

Getting an interface/mixer that pre-processes the sound directly into an iPhone in stereo which wasn't happening on my tests without it.

Hopefully my device will arrive soon and hopefully it will work too, cost £100, expensive mistake to make if it doesn't!

All being well I can start recoding my plays

I've been learning a lot fro y'all lately. Me I prefer to use a laptop instead. I don't use tablets that much haha. Mostly either my phone or laptop.

For the music and recording stuff I prefer to use my laptop so everything is there.

I'm looking at interfaces and stuff that sawas was telling me about.

Let me know when you get yours. It's always exciting when us Musicians get new musial things in the mail.


Hey @sawas I found this one.

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Preson...s26Nc8we6RgYHEUxLJbc3DUuwWXUO2IxoCaF0QAvD_BwE

I believe it's like the one you said you had? Just this one is used for the laptop instead of ipad.

Still reading the articles you posted.


Wanted to thank you both for letting me bug y'all and asking questions.

 

[sawas]

I've been learning a lot fro y'all lately. Me I prefer to use a laptop instead. I don't use tablets that much haha. Mostly either my phone or laptop.

For the music and recording stuff I prefer to use my laptop so everything is there.

I'm looking at interfaces and stuff that sawas was telling me about.

Let me know when you get yours. It's always exciting when us Musicians get new musial things in the mail.


Hey @sawas I found this one.

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Preson...s26Nc8we6RgYHEUxLJbc3DUuwWXUO2IxoCaF0QAvD_BwE

I believe it's like the one you said you had? Just this one is used for the laptop instead of ipad.

Still reading the articles you posted.


Wanted to thank you both for letting me bug y'all and asking questions.

That would be a useful "starter kit", assuming you need the included extras (monitors, mic, headphones). Those are all items on the usual checklists. Don't forget cables, btw.

One advantage of going with a Presonus interface is that it will come with a stripped down version of their DAW (Studio One), assuming you wish to use it. Watch for seasonal upgrades for that, which I think can be very good value.

I'm currently using a Focusrite interface, but did own a Presonus some years ago. They should work with either Windows or Mac...but do check just to be sure.

 

[Musician 4 Jesus]

That would be a useful "starter kit", assuming you need the included extras (monitors, mic, headphones). Those are all items on the usual checklists. Don't forget cables, btw.

One advantage of going with a Presonus interface is that it will come with a stripped down version of their DAW (Studio One), assuming you wish to use it. Watch for seasonal upgrades for that, which I think can be very good value.

I'm currently using a Focusrite interface, but did own a Presonus some years ago. They should work with either Windows or Mac...but do check just to be sure.

Nope the monitors, mic, headphones come with the interfaces and the program to. For a good price to only 300$. And it comes with cables as well but will order extras just in case.

I have windows so I'll have to do some checking to see if it works on windows just got the new windows and and a new laptop a few weeks ago so will have to check and make sure it's compatible.

I'm going to write down some stuff from the ones you posted for me to look at and the one I posted here and put up some comparison of different ones and see which ones would be better for what I'm useing the for. I'll look into the Focusrite as well.

Yup I'll be useing the DAW
I'm looking into everything about them and see what they do etc etc.

And watching videos to that helps a lot.

 

[Musician 4 Jesus]

@JSTyler how are you doing after your surgery?

 

[JSTyler]

@JSTyler how are you doing after your surgery?

Doing great! Thanks for asking. I'm actually healthy for the first time in decades and I didn't know that I wasn't until I was or am. I have practically no hearing at all on one side, but that may change with time. And it seems that worst case is I will have to resort to external bone conduction for my future...not there yet. Lot's of healing, recovery and process to go yet.

I've been reluctant to mess with music, it's really tough dealing with half the sound world gone missing. When I stop feeling sorry for myself I'll get back to it. Side note: I'm really-really busy with two jobs right now anyway.

 

[Musician 4 Jesus]

Doing great! Thanks for asking. I'm actually healthy for the first time in decades and I didn't know that I wasn't until I was or am. I have practically no hearing at all on one side, but that may change with time. And it seems that worst case is I will have to resort to external bone conduction for my future...not there yet. Lot's of healing, recovery and process to go yet.

I've been reluctant to mess with music, it's really tough dealing with half the sound world gone missing. When I stop feeling sorry for myself I'll get back to it. Side note: I'm really-really busy with two jobs right now anyway.

praying for you brother and praying your hearing becomes back to normal and you'll need no more surgeries.

im glad to hear you've been keeping your self busy. in the meantime music write some lyrics if you like writing i do. whenever i dont have time to play music ill try and write some lyrics

 

[Musician 4 Jesus]

isnt this beauty beautiful

 

[Musician 4 Jesus]

so dose any of you tech savvy musicians here make backing tracks for guitar or know if anyone that dose?

 

[TheRedeemed]

so dose any of you tech savvy musicians here make backing tracks for guitar or know if anyone that dose?

My friend and colleague uses a thing called ‘Guitar Rig’ I’m not entirely sure what it is, but I know it’s software he runs on his laptop and plugs his guitar into.

Maybe do a Google look up for it. I can also ask him about it too and any backing tracks he uses/purchases.

An update to my own progress now. I have successfully recorded 5 or so videos and should have them on YouTube soon, when I do I will let you all know the channel name or post the search code here and if you like you can search me out and have a watch/listen.

My colleague mentioned above also made a YouTube video of himself playing his guitar at the weekend and, being a designer/videographer/sound engineer, his is very good. I may somehow let you see that video too, it’s not my scene, heavy metal rock!

That apart, he’s very good and is part of a fairly successful band. I have done some ‘middle of the road’ gigs with him too, but I don’t think he enjoys playing happy birthday, my way, the last waltz and such like, as you do when you gig parties for birthday’s, anniversaries, retirement parties etc.

To that end my videos are of those types of tunes, but normally I am accompanist and someone either sings or plays the lead instrument, so I have had to improvise and try to play the whole bands parts and of course the lead too!

Maybe by the weekend I will have them processed and uploaded

 

[sawas]

@TheRedeemed Nice to hear someone's making progress. I'll be interested in anything you care to share.

@Musician for Jesus Nice guit. I saw your Q about backing tracks and have some thoughts, but no time right now. I'll try to be back soon on that.