Discussion in 'Gog / Magog' started by Almost Heaven, Nov 28, 2018.

  1. Almost Heaven

    Almost Heaven Well-Known Member

    In the wake of the Kerch Straits crises, where Russia detained three Ukrainian navy boats after claiming they entered Russian territorial waters, Moscow now may deploy the S-400 air defense system to Crimea. The S-400 could be operational in the tense area by the end of the year. The deployment is part of a larger Moscow strategy that sees the S-400, and its less advanced cousin the S-300, as a form of military-diplomacy to carve out a sphere of influence from Damascus to the Don.

    Navigation of the Kerch straits is controversial because Ukraine asserts that they have a right to sail into the Sea of Azov while Russia says it may stop and check ships entering its territorial waters. Russian jets buzzed the straits this week and Russia stopped the Ukrainian vessels in an unprecedented clash that has caused alarm at NATO, in the EU and at the UN. Ukraine declared martial law in provinces bordering Russia and Crimea. Ukraine and Russia are already at odds over two breakaway provinces in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas where low level fighting has taken place since 2014.

    Increasing Russian military presence in Crimea with the S-400 would be a message to Ukraine and the West. Russia already has its large Black Sea Fleet based at Savastopol in Crimea. Moscow’s Sputnik news claimed on Wednesday morning that a US “spy plane” was spotted off the coast of Crimea.

    The S-400 deployment should be seen as part of Russia’s military-diplomacy. Russia is selling the S-400 abroad and it has already signed contracts in Turkey, China and India, according to Russian media. It is also seeking to sell the system to Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Egypt, Vietnam, Iraq and Morocco. Some of these countries are US allies, so Moscow’s deeper message is that the S-400 is a symbol of Russian military power. The more places it can be sent to show off Russia’s power, the more countries will look to Moscow as a guarantor of their security. That is why Russia’s Sputnik runs glowing reports about this “unique” defense system.
  2. mattfivefour

    mattfivefour Administrator Staff Member

    Gog flexing his military and political muscles, preparing for the day. As Mao Zedong said, "Politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." Both are engaged in for the same purposes-- to extend influence and gain power. And the Bible makes clear Gog's aims.
  3. Tall Timbers

    Tall Timbers Imperfect but forgiven

    I don't ever expect Russia to cede the Crimea back to the Ukraine any time soon.
  4. athenasius

    athenasius Well-Known Member

    I think Russia is preparing to take back the Ukraine, like they took Crimea.
  5. Almost Heaven

    Almost Heaven Well-Known Member

    Russia blocks Ukrainian Azov Sea ports

    KIEV (Reuters) - Two Ukrainian Azov Sea ports, Berdyansk and Mariupol, are effectively under blockade by Russia as vessels are being barred from leaving and entering, Ukraine’s infrastructure minister, Volodymyr Omelyan, said on Thursday.

    Overall, 35 vessels have been prevented from carrying out normal operations and only vessels moving towards Russian ports on the Azov Sea are permitted entry, he said on Facebook.

    “The goal is simple - by placing a blockade on Ukrainian ports on the Azov Sea, Russia hopes to drive Ukraine out of our own territory - territory that is ours in accordance with all relevant international laws,” he said.

    Omelyan said 18 vessels were awaiting entry into the Azov Sea, including four to Berdyansk and 14 to Mariupol. There is also a line of nine vessels to leave the Azov Sea and eight other vessels are standing by near the port berths.
  6. Almost Heaven

    Almost Heaven Well-Known Member

    Nailed it athenasius...he is going to take Ukaraine...Gog is on the move again.
  7. Tall Timbers

    Tall Timbers Imperfect but forgiven

    And they'll get away with it... payback probly won't come to Russia until Eze 38-39.
  8. anath

    anath I Love the Lord

    I agree...he is going to take Ukraine and Gog is on the move
  9. John Romans

    John Romans Well-Known Member

    With Gog taking over Ukraine and NATO doing nothing but standing by and watching, could this lead to the nations to break away from NATO and align towards the eventual European army or allow the 10 nation military to finally form?
  10. athenasius

    athenasius Well-Known Member

    Yes I think that is a strong possibility because Macron of France and Merkel of Germany are in favour of setting up a standing army by and for the EU. The group right now consists of 10 nations that contribute to that army that hasn't formed yet, and one of the nations is Britain so Brexit is interesting to consider with that in mind. Meanwhile I don't think France or Germany want NATO around. They want to control their own army. The anti American bias of the EU will eventually lead to breaking up NATO, and reforming into their own army to protect themselves from invaders like Russia. The situation in the Ukraine will simply speed it along. And I wouldn't be surprised if the EU NATO partners drag their feet coming to the Ukraine's defense in part to make NATO fail, and to save themselves the trouble of defending anyone against Russia because Russia is for now anyway, the source of their heating oil.

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