Military whistleblower goes public with claims US has secret UFO retrieval program: ‘Terrestrial arms race’

[Andy C]

I was once a military whistleblower. I was leading my company in drills on the football field, blowing on the whistle as the sprinted between PT stations…..

Every time I hear the term whistleblower, I think of the fraud, the LtCol who testified against Trump over a telephone conversation he listened in on, of which he did not really understand. He was out of the service shortly afterwards.

 

[Umbrella Girl]

Nothing is stated in the Word of God that there are any forms of life anywhere else in the universe. I just leave it at that.

 

[DWB]

Above my pay grade, but people believe certain things for many reasons. This person may really believe what he is saying, that doesn't mean it's true.

 

[TruthOnly]

Nothing is stated in the Word of God that there are any forms of life anywhere else in the universe. I just leave it at that.

The bible is a thick but finite book. It tells us everything we need to know to be saved. The lack of information in the bible about a topic is not proof that it doesn't exist.

That said, I agree with the prevailing christian opinion that UFO's are likely demonic, not life from other planets. Some secret advanced military technology could also be used to create fear and manipulate the masses. Being wrong about this is no threat to my salvation however and wouldn't disprove the inspired word of God..

 

[Tall Timbers]

Yes, and also Nessie….

Umm, I've seen the documentary. Nessie is real!

 

[JoyJoyJoy]

I am still waiting for proof that Big Foot exists.

Oh he is real. I'm married to his brother.

 

[Umbrella Girl]

Umm, I've seen the documentary. Nessie is real!

Remember that TV show from the 1970’s, “In Search Of”? My father used to watch it, and the eerie opening theme music kind of freaked me out…

There was an episode about Nessie…

 

[Andy C]

Oh he is real. I'm married to his brother.

I understand, my late uncle looked like big foot, only not as well groomed.

 

[Umbrella Girl]

The bible is a thick but finite book. It tells us everything we need to know to be saved. The lack of information in the bible about a topic is not proof that it doesn't exist.

That said, I agree with the prevailing christian opinion that UFO's are likely demonic, not life from other planets. Some secret advanced military technology could also be used to create fear and manipulate the masses. Being wrong about this is no threat to my salvation however and wouldn't disprove the inspired word of God..

True, the Bible is finite…

But I find it hard to wrap my mind around the idea that God would keep it a secret from us. Why would He not tell us / warn us?

Of course, I cannot even begin to presume to understand the reasons that God does certain things / allows certain things…

 

[MapleLeaf]

Listen, either we believe the Bible when it said that ALL of creation fell (the ENTIRE universe) when Adam & Eve sinned or we do not and cover it with the sham "it's a finite book" because stories of aliens seem sensational and exciting. Physical, sentient beings made in the image of God paying for the sins of another species it outside of Christian theology as is another sentient class of physical beings remaining outside of the fall due to what the Scripture says, as mentioned. Jesus paid for ALL sin on the cross here on Earth.

There are no physical aliens. I like sci-fi stories but they're just that: stories. Space is impossibly huge and any species that figured out how to travel those vast, vast, vast, VAST distances would have wiped us out eons ago and stripped the planet of its resources. Maybe their elites would have their summer homes here.

 

[athenasius]

The Pentagon cleared whistleblower David Charles Grusch to go public with his claims about an alleged secret U.S. military UFO retrieval program.

That suggests that this is a delicately managed release of information that of course we can't verify. Managed by the Pentagon which means the Oval Office had to OK it. This "whistleblower" had permission first. Just like the one that came on Tucker Carlson back when he was still at Fox news.

I think it lines up with a carefully crafted (no pun intended) hoax that the enemy will use after we go in the Rapture to explain the disappearances. Getting ready for the Rapture. The enemy is busy deceiving the White House and it's occupants, the One World Govt types and anyone who isn't well grounded in the Bible.

Roswell-- the first alleged crash and recovery of alien bodies and spacecraft occurred just around the time Israel came roaring back to life after almost 2 thousand years in exile. Things like Fatima (pictures from that time include a UFO type object) which dated back to 1917 (around the time approaching the Balfour declaration giving Israel to the Jews) seemed to amp up after 1948.

That had to be a bad moment for Satan, realizing the time's almost up. Consequently his UFO lies went into high gear.

So did science fiction in films, books and magazines devoted to sci fi. In between the dystopian futures and the fun ones (Star Trek) the same message gets across. Aliens are supposedly all over the universe.

Except that there is a conspicuous silence from all these aliens.

With the exception of UFO's and their occupants which all preach the same message according to the contactees. The same stuff that Madam Blavatsky taught, and all her new age disciples teach today. Doctrines of demons.

They say the God of the Bible is the "bad guy" and the "aliens" are space brothers here to help us. They universally preach evolution and environmentalism as well as other New Age stuff (doctrines of demons) AND about a coming removal of the bad people who refuse to evolve. That would be us, the pesky Christians.

To the point about the Bible not mentioning these things. It does, you just have to look in the right places.

Everywhere the Nephilim are mentioned, we are looking at the hybrids created from the union of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men". It wasn't until about 400 AD or so that the church began to teach that it meant the sons of Seth, taking (non consensual implication in the text) the daughters of Cain. Before that time the Jews and the early church all taught this was fallen angels taking human form and the forbidden act of procreation with human women. That was against their design. The angels in heaven don't procreate. Humans do. God's design.

That sons of God/sons of Seth the godly line theory doesn't hold water.

The word for sons of God is the same as Adam, meaning a special creation of God, not derived from normal reproduction and this term that the ancient Jews always used for angels.

Humans with humans make humans. Unnatural offspring that have unusual strength and size don't usually happen from human reproduction. Not the norm. Sometimes but not like the Bible describes it in the preflood world (and also after that). There's a reason God told the Israelites to wipe out certain inhabitants of Canaan. They didn't complete the task, so Goliath and his brothers were around to bother David. Eventually they were wiped out or left the area but the reason they were there was likely to contaminate the pure human line of Christ. More on that later.

And if Seth's godly line was so good, why were they grabbing whomever they chose (the implication is that no consent was asked) among the daughters of Cain. And why were THESE children so different. The daughters of Cain were just as human as the sons of Seth.

Their offspring were evil. Named Nephilim, the plural of Nephal which means fallen. They had unusual strength and size.

Special emphasis is placed on Noah being "perfect" and the word used is the one for a perfect sacrifice. Perfect in his generations or genealogy.

While the Bible doesn't mention grey aliens, or spacecraft in the Last Days, it does mention a LOT of demonic activity during the Tribulation. The enemy can masquerade as an angel of light. The Bible also gives us rules to discern by

Instead of giving any "alien" the benefit of the doubt we need to apply the Biblical rules like 1 John 4:1-3 especially v 2

1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,

3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

These "spirits" whether in a false prophet or channelled by a New Ager or relayed to us by a UFO abductee UNIVERSALLY DENY CHRIST and the BIBLE. Not the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Granth Sahib or other "holy" books from other religions nor their founders. There is a peculiar emphasis on Christ, Christianity, Jews and the Bible when these "space brothers" get to chatting with humans.

Just on that verse alone (and many others) we are NOT to accept whatever someone says at face value without checking first if these things confess Christ or not. If they agree with the Bible.

Then there is the OTHER big elephant in the room regarding the Bible.

And that is what @MapleLeaf was getting at.

Salvation -- the reason we can be saved (and the Nephalim can't) is because Jesus became a real 100% man, virgin born (so he avoided the sin passed down by Adam). He was both 100 % God and 100% man, being fathered by God thru the Holy Spirit in the womb of a virgin.

He was the ONLY possible sin offering to pay the penalty for the sins of all humans from Adam down to the very last human in the flesh who trusts Christ at the very end of the Millennium before the new heavens and earth in eternity future.

He had to be both HUMAN but SINLESS and only God incarnate in human flesh could be that perfect sinless sacrifice for once and all time.

HE HAD TO BE 100% HUMAN to save other humans.

In order to save a fallen angel or a fallen hybrid (Nephalim) or even an "alien" Christ would have to be 100% one of those. NOT 100% Human and 100% God.

BUT

Salvation is done ONCE and once only. Scripture makes that clear. ONE sacrifice sufficient for all time. And that was for HUMANS ONLY. That sacrifice covers all humans. The only thing that keeps us out of Heaven is our freedom of choice. God allows us to choose Christ and live with Him forever or choose NOT to be saved by Christ.

Christ's sacrifice is not multiple times in multiple forms for multiple alien/fallen angel/nephalim.

Once for all time

1 Peter 3:18. New American Standard Bible​

18 For Christ also suffered for sins once for all time, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;​

 

[Kenny]

That suggests that this is a delicately managed release of information that of course we can't verify. Managed by the Pentagon which means the Oval Office had to OK it. This "whistleblower" had permission first. Just like the one that came on Tucker Carlson back when he was still at Fox news.

I think it lines up with a carefully crafted (no pun intended) hoax that the enemy will use after we go in the Rapture to explain the disappearances. Getting ready for the Rapture. The enemy is busy deceiving the White House and it's occupants, the One World Govt types and anyone who isn't well grounded in the Bible.

Roswell-- the first alleged crash and recovery of alien bodies and spacecraft occurred just around the time Israel came roaring back to life after almost 2 thousand years in exile. Things like Fatima (pictures from that time include a UFO type object) which dated back to 1917 (around the time approaching the Balfour declaration giving Israel to the Jews) seemed to amp up after 1948.

That had to be a bad moment for Satan, realizing the time's almost up. Consequently his UFO lies went into high gear.

So did science fiction in films, books and magazines devoted to sci fi. In between the dystopian futures and the fun ones (Star Trek) the same message gets across. Aliens are supposedly all over the universe.

Except that there is a conspicuous silence from all these aliens.

With the exception of UFO's and their occupants which all preach the same message according to the contactees. The same stuff that Madam Blavatsky taught, and all her new age disciples teach today. Doctrines of demons.

They say the God of the Bible is the "bad guy" and the "aliens" are space brothers here to help us. They universally preach evolution and environmentalism as well as other New Age stuff (doctrines of demons) AND about a coming removal of the bad people who refuse to evolve. That would be us, the pesky Christians.


2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,

3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

These "spirits" whether in a false prophet or channelled by a New Ager or relayed to us by a UFO abductee UNIVERSALLY DENY CHRIST and the BIBLE. Not the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Granth Sahib or other "holy" books from other religions nor their founders. There is a peculiar emphasis on Christ, Christianity, Jews and the Bible when these "space brothers" get to chatting with humans.

Just on that verse alone (and many others) we are NOT to accept whatever someone says at face value without checking first if these things confess Christ or not. If they agree with the Bible.

Then there is the OTHER big elephant in the room regarding the Bible.

And that is what @MapleLeaf was getting at.

Salvation -- the reason we can be saved (and the Nephalim can't) is because Jesus became a real 100% man, virgin born (so he avoided the sin passed down by Adam). He was both 100 % God and 100% man, being fathered by God thru the Holy Spirit in the womb of a virgin.

He was the ONLY possible sin offering to pay the penalty for the sins of all humans from Adam down to the very last human in the flesh who trusts Christ at the very end of the Millennium before the new heavens and earth in eternity future.

He had to be both HUMAN but SINLESS and only God incarnate in human flesh could be that perfect sinless sacrifice for once and all time.

HE HAD TO BE 100% HUMAN to save other humans.

In order to save a fallen angel or a fallen hybrid (Nephalim) or even an "alien" Christ would have to be 100% one of those. NOT 100% Human and 100% God.

BUT

Salvation is done ONCE and once only. Scripture makes that clear. ONE sacrifice sufficient for all time. And that was for HUMANS ONLY. That sacrifice covers all humans. The only thing that keeps us out of Heaven is our freedom of choice. God allows us to choose Christ and live with Him forever or choose NOT to be saved by Christ.

Christ's sacrifice is not multiple times in multiple forms for multiple alien/fallen angel/nephalim.

Once for all time

1 Peter 3:18. New American Standard Bible​

18 For Christ also suffered for sins once for all time, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;​

That suggests that this is a delicately managed release of information that of course we can't verify. Managed by the Pentagon which means the Oval Office had to OK it. This "whistleblower" had permission first. Just like the one that came on Tucker Carlson back when he was still at Fox news.

I think it lines up with a carefully crafted (no pun intended) hoax that the enemy will use after we go in the Rapture to explain the disappearances. Getting ready for the Rapture. The enemy is busy deceiving the White House and it's occupants, the One World Govt types and anyone who isn't well grounded in the Bible.

Roswell-- the first alleged crash and recovery of alien bodies and spacecraft occurred just around the time Israel came roaring back to life after almost 2 thousand years in exile. Things like Fatima (pictures from that time include a UFO type object) which dated back to 1917 (around the time approaching the Balfour declaration giving Israel to the Jews) seemed to amp up after 1948.

That had to be a bad moment for Satan, realizing the time's almost up. Consequently his UFO lies went into high gear.

So did science fiction in films, books and magazines devoted to sci fi. In between the dystopian futures and the fun ones (Star Trek) the same message gets across. Aliens are supposedly all over the universe.

Except that there is a conspicuous silence from all these aliens.

With the exception of UFO's and their occupants which all preach the same message according to the contactees. The same stuff that Madam Blavatsky taught, and all her new age disciples teach today. Doctrines of demons.

They say the God of the Bible is the "bad guy" and the "aliens" are space brothers here to help us. They universally preach evolution and environmentalism as well as other New Age stuff (doctrines of demons) AND about a coming removal of the bad people who refuse to evolve. That would be us, the pesky Christians.

To the point about the Bible not mentioning these things. It does, you just have to look in the right places.

Everywhere the Nephilim are mentioned, we are looking at the hybrids created from the union of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men". It wasn't until about 400 AD or so that the church began to teach that it meant the sons of Seth, taking (non consensual implication in the text) the daughters of Cain. Before that time the Jews and the early church all taught this was fallen angels taking human form and the forbidden act of procreation with human women. That was against their design. The angels in heaven don't procreate. Humans do. God's design.

That sons of God/sons of Seth the godly line theory doesn't hold water.

The word for sons of God is the same as Adam, meaning a special creation of God, not derived from normal reproduction and this term that the ancient Jews always used for angels.

Humans with humans make humans. Unnatural offspring that have unusual strength and size don't usually happen from human reproduction. Not the norm. Sometimes but not like the Bible describes it in the preflood world (and also after that). There's a reason God told the Israelites to wipe out certain inhabitants of Canaan. They didn't complete the task, so Goliath and his brothers were around to bother David. Eventually they were wiped out or left the area but the reason they were there was likely to contaminate the pure human line of Christ. More on that later.

And if Seth's godly line was so good, why were they grabbing whomever they chose (the implication is that no consent was asked) among the daughters of Cain. And why were THESE children so different. The daughters of Cain were just as human as the sons of Seth.

Their offspring were evil. Named Nephilim, the plural of Nephal which means fallen. They had unusual strength and size.

Special emphasis is placed on Noah being "perfect" and the word used is the one for a perfect sacrifice. Perfect in his generations or genealogy.

While the Bible doesn't mention grey aliens, or spacecraft in the Last Days, it does mention a LOT of demonic activity during the Tribulation. The enemy can masquerade as an angel of light. The Bible also gives us rules to discern by

Instead of giving any "alien" the benefit of the doubt we need to apply the Biblical rules like 1 John 4:1-3 especially v 2

1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,

3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

These "spirits" whether in a false prophet or channelled by a New Ager or relayed to us by a UFO abductee UNIVERSALLY DENY CHRIST and the BIBLE. Not the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Granth Sahib or other "holy" books from other religions nor their founders. There is a peculiar emphasis on Christ, Christianity, Jews and the Bible when these "space brothers" get to chatting with humans.

Just on that verse alone (and many others) we are NOT to accept whatever someone says at face value without checking first if these things confess Christ or not. If they agree with the Bible.

Then there is the OTHER big elephant in the room regarding the Bible.

And that is what @MapleLeaf was getting at.

Salvation -- the reason we can be saved (and the Nephalim can't) is because Jesus became a real 100% man, virgin born (so he avoided the sin passed down by Adam). He was both 100 % God and 100% man, being fathered by God thru the Holy Spirit in the womb of a virgin.

He was the ONLY possible sin offering to pay the penalty for the sins of all humans from Adam down to the very last human in the flesh who trusts Christ at the very end of the Millennium before the new heavens and earth in eternity future.

He had to be both HUMAN but SINLESS and only God incarnate in human flesh could be that perfect sinless sacrifice for once and all time.

HE HAD TO BE 100% HUMAN to save other humans.

In order to save a fallen angel or a fallen hybrid (Nephalim) or even an "alien" Christ would have to be 100% one of those. NOT 100% Human and 100% God.

BUT

Salvation is done ONCE and once only. Scripture makes that clear. ONE sacrifice sufficient for all time. And that was for HUMANS ONLY. That sacrifice covers all humans. The only thing that keeps us out of Heaven is our freedom of choice. God allows us to choose Christ and live with Him forever or choose NOT to be saved by Christ.

Christ's sacrifice is not multiple times in multiple forms for multiple alien/fallen angel/nephalim.

Once for all time

1 Peter 3:18. New American Standard Bible​

18 For Christ also suffered for sins once for all time, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;​

I agree with your post up to the point "That would be us pesky Christians". After that not so much. I know I'm in the minority on this, but there are some of us that do believe the "line of Seth" theory, and not the "fallen Angel" theory for the "Sons of God" reading in Genesis 6.

 

[Dave_97]

After that not so much. I know I'm in the minority on this, but there are some of us that do believe the "line of Seth" theory, and not the "fallen Angel" theory for the "Sons of God" reading in Genesis 6.

We can all agree to disagree, I recommend you do a deeper study on this. I’ve looked into the Seth line theory and compared it with the Nephilim interpretation of Genesis.

To be honest, the Nephilim view is clearly the view that holds the most water here. It’s even backed by scripture from the New Testament (Jude).

“And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”
‭‭Jude‬ ‭1‬:‭6‬-‭7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

There is just now way to explain this verse other than what was described in Genesis 6. These angles “left their own habitation” and gave themselves to “fornication” and going after strange “flesh” - which is described as a sin similar to “sodom and Gomorrah in like manner” (sexual immorality in nature).

It’s mind boggling and hard for some of us to grasp, but it’s simply what the text says.

I think we are heading into a time of history that is about to shake the world to their core. This is not directed just to you but all Christians, although this is a side issue and Christian’s can take the Seth view if they want. We are headed straight into the end times and the closer we get to the rapture, the weirder things get, and we need to figure out what is the correct view for these side things to better be equipped to answer people.

As Christians here in the west we have been fed and programmed to believe the supernatural world is all fiction, and some most science fiction stuff stays in the movies.

The reality is the supernatural world is alive and among us -not just in horror movies like “paranormal”. Demon possession and whitchcraft is real, just go to Africa (I grew up there).

When it comes to science fiction, the enemy has been trying to tinker with human DNA for thousands of years now, but wants us to think this is just “sci fi” stuff and not real. Genesis 6 clearly reveals this. Although we don’t know exactly what the mark of the beast will be, some bible prophecy teachers have speculated it could be tampering with human DNA to the point of those taking it not being considered to be “100 percent” human, hence they are ineligible for salvation (this part is me speculating).

Point is some areas in scripture like Genesis 6 seem crazy, and the enemy doesn’t want us to believe it, but whether or not it sounds ridiculous, we need to make sure and believe what the text says.

 

[GotGrace]

I cannot believe that people on here don’t believe this whistleblower’s story lock, stock, and barrel.

I’m from the government and you can trust me!

 

[Dragontiger777]

Be Honest; I don't even believe 100 % liar/fake/cover up by the a/c plot. Therefore, there is none other planets have extraterrestrial. Hahahah!!!! That is full of comedy and laugh stock for sure. Otherwise, the people who will see and understand what behind is the satan plot.

In this the Bible spoke HIs word truth of life nothing can twist His words.

The Earth is Life Breathe Humans
Spirit realm is where we can't see here on the Earth is both the satans and Angels (forget which the Bible speak about the woman knew Angel spirit protect the woman while the Soldier can't see.

That is Spirit realm.

I am right!!!

 

[Dan the Elder]

Very interesting responses on here -- steel against steel - love the interaction! I believe we are seeing 24/7 demonic activity, showing itself in unprecedented evil behavior (stabbing babies in strollers, mass shootings, public debauchery, satan worship, hatred and increasing persecution). It will increasingly become even worse as we inch toward the Great Tribulation. The spiritual battle is raging and we have to put on the full armor of God (Eph. 6:11), and persevere until He calls us! Rev_2:26 "And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:!" Amen - God Bless, Dan

 

[JoyJoyJoy]

think it lines up with a carefully crafted (no pun intended) hoax that the enemy will use after we go in the Rapture to explain the disappearances. Getting ready for the Rapture. The enemy is busy deceiving the White House and it's occupants, the One World Govt types and anyone who isn't well grounded in the Bible.

Interesting thought. I had never really considered that POTUS and other world leaders may actually believe in UFOs / aliens/abductions. I assumed it was mostly low information types that believed.
We do know there will be a great delusion.

 

[twerpv]

We can all agree to disagree, I recommend you do a deeper study on this. I’ve looked into the Seth line theory and compared it with the Nephilim interpretation of Genesis.

To be honest, the Nephilim view is clearly the view that holds the most water here. It’s even backed by scripture from the New Testament (Jude).

“And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”
‭‭Jude‬ ‭1‬:‭6‬-‭7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

There is just now way to explain this verse other than what was described in Genesis 6. These angles “left their own habitation” and gave themselves to “fornication” and going after strange “flesh” - which is described as a sin similar to “sodom and Gomorrah in like manner” (sexual immorality in nature).

It’s mind boggling and hard for some of us to grasp, but it’s simply what the text says.

I think we are heading into a time of history that is about to shake the world to their core. This is not directed just to you but all Christians, although this is a side issue and Christian’s can take the Seth view if they want. We are headed straight into the end times and the closer we get to the rapture, the weirder things get, and we need to figure out what is the correct view for these side things to better be equipped to answer people.

As Christians here in the west we have been fed and programmed to believe the supernatural world is all fiction, and some most science fiction stuff stays in the movies.

The reality is the supernatural world is alive and among us -not just in horror movies like “paranormal”. Demon possession and whitchcraft is real, just go to Africa (I grew up there).

When it comes to science fiction, the enemy has been trying to tinker with human DNA for thousands of years now, but wants us to think this is just “sci fi” stuff and not real. Genesis 6 clearly reveals this. Although we don’t know exactly what the mark of the beast will be, some bible prophecy teachers have speculated it could be tampering with human DNA to the point of those taking it not being considered to be “100 percent” human, hence they are ineligible for salvation (this part is me speculating).

Point is some areas in scripture like Genesis 6 seem crazy, and the enemy doesn’t want us to believe it, but whether or not it sounds ridiculous, we need to make sure and believe what the text says.

Agreed. And the stranger and ‘abnormal’ we see things the more we need to cling to Gods Word. He’s not worried.

 

[Reunionroundthecorner]

Just gearing up to deceive the world (which isn't hard to do in this day and time) about where millions of people went during the rapture. I saw a commercial showing people being lifted up into a craft with arms open and thought, "So that's how you're going to explain it, huh?!"

We need to understand that when the rapture happens, if it's "found out" that a rapture actually happened, then the world would have to admit "those Christians" were right all along. The powers that be can't let that happen. Imo...................

 

[Kenny]

We can all agree to disagree, I recommend you do a deeper study on this. I’ve looked into the Seth line theory and compared it with the Nephilim interpretation of Genesis.

To be honest, the Nephilim view is clearly the view that holds the most water here. It’s even backed by scripture from the New Testament (Jude).

“And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”
‭‭Jude‬ ‭1‬:‭6‬-‭7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

There is just now way to explain this verse other than what was described in Genesis 6. These angles “left their own habitation” and gave themselves to “fornication” and going after strange “flesh” - which is described as a sin similar to “sodom and Gomorrah in like manner” (sexual immorality in nature).

It’s mind boggling and hard for some of us to grasp, but it’s simply what the text says.

I think we are heading into a time of history that is about to shake the world to their core. This is not directed just to you but all Christians, although this is a side issue and Christian’s can take the Seth view if they want. We are headed straight into the end times and the closer we get to the rapture, the weirder things get, and we need to figure out what is the correct view for these side things to better be equipped to answer people.

As Christians here in the west we have been fed and programmed to believe the supernatural world is all fiction, and some most science fiction stuff stays in the movies.

The reality is the supernatural world is alive and among us -not just in horror movies like “paranormal”. Demon possession and whitchcraft is real, just go to Africa (I grew up there).

When it comes to science fiction, the enemy has been trying to tinker with human DNA for thousands of years now, but wants us to think this is just “sci fi” stuff and not real. Genesis 6 clearly reveals this. Although we don’t know exactly what the mark of the beast will be, some bible prophecy teachers have speculated it could be tampering with human DNA to the point of those taking it not being considered to be “100 percent” human, hence they are ineligible for salvation (this part is me speculating).

Point is some areas in scripture like Genesis 6 seem crazy, and the enemy doesn’t want us to believe it, but whether or not it sounds ridiculous, we need to make sure and believe what the text says.

OK, thanks for your reply, although there are many things here that I can refute from my deeper study on this subject, I won't on this thread or it will be shut down. Have a blessed day.