Labor Pains

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
Can any of the ladies that have had children (or that are doctors/nurses/midwives) match up what happens in labor to the prophetic signs and/or judgments in Revelation, etc.? Maybe with some sense of timing?

I asked this in the Bizarre Events thread, but thought maybe someone might be more comfortable answering here, where it's just us ladies :smile
 

KariH

Active Member
I've given birth 3 times and each one was different, so labors are hard to compare. What I will say that they had in common is the anxiety and anticipation, waiting for the contractions to do their job and get the dilation process completed so you can start pushing. It is anybody's guess where we are in the birth pain process according to scriptures, but the way it feels to me is that we are nearly ready to be given the go-ahead to push. ;)
 

fl2007rn

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Of course every birth is different but they all follow the same pattern medically. The birth process is in 4 phases in which the cervix will dilate to 10 cm and the mother will give birth.

Latent Phase 0-3cm (mild and irregular pains)
Active Labor 4 -7cm (contractions longer and stronger)
Transition 8-10cm (strong, intense, and overlapping contractions)
Delivery 10 cm Baby is born

My guess is that we are in the transition phase.It seems like there are multiple problems and issues going on every day. Look up because we are living in the last days. :fish
 
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athenasius

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I'd say transition, it's the stage where you can no longer stay on top of things and absorb what's happening even though it's intense, it's all happening too fast, too much at once, too chaotic and nothing seems right. It isn't time to push yet, but the contractions are all over the place, and it's a little like pushing, but they are telling you NOT YET.
 

Stormy

Member
I've been through labor 5 times and agree with the others saying this time feels like transition. Can't get a break to catch our breath before the next wave (contraction, horrible world event, whichever) comes and personally feel like I'm at the point in transition that happened every single time for me where I just wanted everything to stop and to go home.

But just like the midwife or doctor would always say at that point, just a little more and then we can rest. Of course, "a little more" is up to God's timing, not ours, so who knows how long that will be in the grand scheme of things? It sure doesn't feel like it can go on much longer though.
 

hopefilled

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I've been through labor 5 times and agree with the others saying this time feels like transition. Can't get a break to catch our breath before the next wave (contraction, horrible world event, whichever) comes and personally feel like I'm at the point in transition that happened every single time for me where I just wanted everything to stop and to go home.

But just like the midwife or doctor would always say at that point, just a little more and then we can rest. Of course, "a little more" is up to God's timing, not ours, so who knows how long that will be in the grand scheme of things? It sure doesn't feel like it can go on much longer though.
My thoughts in transition phases were more " let's just get this show on the road and get this baby out - so this can be done and dusted"
Pretty much how I feel about the current state of affairs across the globe too!
Bring it on - so we can get outa here!
 

athenasius

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I'm really scared of contractions, the transition and ring of fire. Any tips to alleviate the pain for a natural unmedicated birth?
Don't be. It's annoying but in the moment, you'll be pretty focused, and whether its' a hospital delivery or at home with a midwife, they know what stage you are at, and will coach you thru.

Lamaze or Natural Childbirth classes focus a lot on breathing-- mostly as a distraction I think (I've done it twice) and it gives you something to control, something to focus on. I think they are helpful in that you sort of know what is going on in each stage, and that keeps you from feeling like WHOOOAAAH what is happening here????

You kind of go WOAHHHHH those cramps are fierce, but then they ease up and you sort of rest or doze in the haze of relief in between. You have a half an idea what's happening. And hopefully you have good L&D nurses who keep you informed, or a midwife.

Most of the first part of labour is like really bad cramps. When it gets to the transition phase, it's pretty intense and you feel a bit crabby and like you want to change your mind, hop off the table and take a quick vacay from it all. You might say some crabby things and get mad at everyone around.

Generally midwives and L&D nurses know that means pushing will begin in the next few contractions. You'll want to push they tell you no, you get cranky, then you can push, the ring of fire feeling happens, but it's such a relief to finally push, that you muster up your best efforts and next thing you know there's happy sounds of baby getting all crabby and cranky and you get to take the FIRST GOOD BREATH you've had in MONTHS.

with my first, I tried to behave myself, as if these nurses were co workers. But I wanted to yell. Held it in.

with my second I yelled. It helped with the pain. Helped Me ---LOL NOT THEM so much!

My best advice is do what you feel like your body wants to do. My niece had her first in January and she felt like being on her hands and knees thru it all. So she did. And she didn't worry about the view the staff were getting from her bottoms up approach to childbirth. They'd seen it all before and some women and their bodies just want to do that.

If you have a midwife, she should be giving you lessons on what to expect. Nowadays my daughter (she's had 5, first was a C section, all the others were the natural way) says the first time mums are encouraged to write out a "birth plan" which gave her and me gusts of belly laughter.

Because nothing ever goes quite the way you expected and you might have planned a beautiful bonding moment, but end up with a baby in the NICU (my second-- she didn't care to breathe thank you very much-- spent an hour in the NICU being tested before they decided she was fine, just a tad stubborn and they kicked her out.)

With HER first, she had a stubborn little girl of HER OWN and Sarah got her head thoroughly stuck and wouldn't budge from her face first position. A C section happened, Sarah and my dd made it thru just fine, but blew thru every nice happy dappy little plan on the birth plan. The rest of them, she just planned to show up on time before the baby was crowning. With one, it was a squeaker.

Oh and the C section-- she healed up just fine, and no further problems.

HUGS and hope that helps.
Love
M
 

cheeky200386

Well-Known Member
Don't be. It's annoying but in the moment, you'll be pretty focused, and whether its' a hospital delivery or at home with a midwife, they know what stage you are at, and will coach you thru.

Lamaze or Natural Childbirth classes focus a lot on breathing-- mostly as a distraction I think (I've done it twice) and it gives you something to control, something to focus on. I think they are helpful in that you sort of know what is going on in each stage, and that keeps you from feeling like WHOOOAAAH what is happening here????

You kind of go WOAHHHHH those cramps are fierce, but then they ease up and you sort of rest or doze in the haze of relief in between. You have a half an idea what's happening. And hopefully you have good L&D nurses who keep you informed, or a midwife.

Most of the first part of labour is like really bad cramps. When it gets to the transition phase, it's pretty intense and you feel a bit crabby and like you want to change your mind, hop off the table and take a quick vacay from it all. You might say some crabby things and get mad at everyone around.

Generally midwives and L&D nurses know that means pushing will begin in the next few contractions. You'll want to push they tell you no, you get cranky, then you can push, the ring of fire feeling happens, but it's such a relief to finally push, that you muster up your best efforts and next thing you know there's happy sounds of baby getting all crabby and cranky and you get to take the FIRST GOOD BREATH you've had in MONTHS.

with my first, I tried to behave myself, as if these nurses were co workers. But I wanted to yell. Held it in.

with my second I yelled. It helped with the pain. Helped Me ---LOL NOT THEM so much!

My best advice is do what you feel like your body wants to do. My niece had her first in January and she felt like being on her hands and knees thru it all. So she did. And she didn't worry about the view the staff were getting from her bottoms up approach to childbirth. They'd seen it all before and some women and their bodies just want to do that.

If you have a midwife, she should be giving you lessons on what to expect. Nowadays my daughter (she's had 5, first was a C section, all the others were the natural way) says the first time mums are encouraged to write out a "birth plan" which gave her and me gusts of belly laughter.

Because nothing ever goes quite the way you expected and you might have planned a beautiful bonding moment, but end up with a baby in the NICU (my second-- she didn't care to breathe thank you very much-- spent an hour in the NICU being tested before they decided she was fine, just a tad stubborn and they kicked her out.)

With HER first, she had a stubborn little girl of HER OWN and Sarah got her head thoroughly stuck and wouldn't budge from her face first position. A C section happened, Sarah and my dd made it thru just fine, but blew thru every nice happy dappy little plan on the birth plan. The rest of them, she just planned to show up on time before the baby was crowning. With one, it was a squeaker.

Oh and the C section-- she healed up just fine, and no further problems.

HUGS and hope that helps.
Love
M

I love this so much especially about realizing birth plans usually change. I'm praying for God to bless me with healthy pregnancy, delivery and baby. I'm meeting with an OBGN next month and a midwife tomorrow. I'm leaning towards a home water birth. Due on March 19th 2020 so plenty of time to find a good provider.

The unfortunate part is so many midwifes in my area, MA, are into new age beliefs whereas medical doctors usually keep those things to themselves. It'll be interesting to see how the midwife reacts to my desire to not hear about reiki, yoga, or meditation.
 

athenasius

Well-Known Member
I love this so much especially about realizing birth plans usually change. I'm praying for God to bless me with healthy pregnancy, delivery and baby. I'm meeting with an OBGN next month and a midwife tomorrow. I'm leaning towards a home water birth. Due on March 19th 2020 so plenty of time to find a good provider.

The unfortunate part is so many midwifes in my area, MA, are into new age beliefs whereas medical doctors usually keep those things to themselves. It'll be interesting to see how the midwife reacts to my desire to not hear about reiki, yoga, or meditation.
You might find a Christian one. We can pray for that. A friend of mine back in the last city I was in, was trying to entice me into joining her practice (back when I still had my RN) and she did water births. They are very effective for managing the discomforts of labour. I attended one with her and it was an amazing and wonderful experience. (but I knew I wasn't called in that direction). She wasn't a Christian but she WAS very supportive of her clientele, many of whom were Christians and more than a few were also homeschoolers like she was and I was at that time.
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
You might find a Christian one. We can pray for that. A friend of mine back in the last city I was in, was trying to entice me into joining her practice (back when I still had my RN) and she did water births. They are very effective for managing the discomforts of labour. I attended one with her and it was an amazing and wonderful experience. (but I knew I wasn't called in that direction). She wasn't a Christian but she WAS very supportive of her clientele, many of whom were Christians and more than a few were also homeschoolers like she was and I was at that time.

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