JPost reports that the alliance between Russia, Iran and Turkey is getting stronger

athenasius

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https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/S...te-growing-Russia-Iran-Turkey-alliance-602787

This JPost article from 7 hours ago reports on the growing alliance between the 3 major players in the coming Ezekiel 38 & 39 war on Israel. We've been seeing this growing alliance for some time, but as this article points out key differences are being smoothed out. Here are some excerpts:

"Initially, Russia and Iran were on one side of the Syrian civil war and Turkey on the other side, to the extent that in 2015, there were theories that they might come into conflict over Syria. But over time, things changed.

Turkey became closer to Russia – seeing a potential dealmaker that could be trusted, and finding a warm ear in Moscow when Turkey broached the subject of taking over parts of northern Syria, including Afrin. Moscow gave the green light over time, allowing Turkey to use Syria’s airspace and making sure the Syrian regime – a key ally of Russia – did not intervene. Turkey is now poised to seek to control a swath of Syria that could result in Turkish control of more than 30% of the country if Ankara gets everything it wants in eastern and northern Syria.

Meanwhile, Turkey and Iran grew closer economically, with Turkey seeking ways around US sanctions and seeking to boost trade to $30 billion from $10 billion in 2017. Turkey, Russia and Iran bond over Syria because they all oppose the US’s role. Turkey accuses the US of training terrorists in eastern Syria. Turkey, once opposed to Iran’s growing role in Iraq, has found accommodations with Tehran after an Iranian-backed Iraqi offensive into Kirkuk in the wake of the Kurdistan Regional Government referendum. Most importantly, Turkey is getting Russia’s S-400 – a deal that originated in 2017 and resulted in delivery of the system in the summer of 2019. It may go online in April 2020."


Here is another gem hidden in the article:
"Turkey and Russia also work closely on TurkStream, the pipeline under the Black Sea that is linked to more muscular Turkish policies in the Mediterranean." You can see the growing competition with Israel's pipeline and Israel's oil. And the growing sense of envy and greed.

As DanLMP and others here have long been concerned-- there are nukes in Incirlik, Turkey, stored there at a base operated by Americans, which briefly came under some kind of attack or lock down or kidnap attempt during Erdogan's crackdown on the attempted coup a couple of years back. Those nukes are still there-- because Turkey is still a NATO ally at least on paper. As a recent thread here noted, https://www.raptureforums.com/forum...free-for-all-or-banned.152633/#post-842864096 Erdogan is now demanding that he be given the go ahead to develop nukes of his own. As we have seen him work in the past, he never lets any of his promises or agreements get in the way of getting whatever he wants.

And here's what they are planning for the future:
"Of course, Moscow and Tehran have different motives. Tehran wants Turkey as a market amid sanctions. It wants to use southern Syria as part of its land-bridge strategy to threaten Israel, necessitating some abeyance from Turkey. Russia wants Turkey to also smooth the way for things in northern Syria. That means that it doesn’t mind if Turkey re-settles refugees in eastern Syria, where the US and mostly Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces are present.

This will kill two birds with one stone: it will weaken the SDF-US (
Margery here, that means THE KURDS) partnership while also moving the refugees away from Idlib. Russia’s goal is to break down the last extremist groups in Idlib. Turkey will be glad to see them go, because both Russia and Turkey want the last independent Syrian factions to evaporate, and that means defeating the SDF in the East and HTS in Idlib. It means neutralizing the last Syrian rebels by getting them to fight the SDF. Everyone gets something in this equation, except those Syrians who dared to join opposition groups."

I think at the same time as Israel is having election turmoil and uncertain leadership for the near future, her enemies are wasting no time in cementing their bonds and advancing their separate goals for carving up Syria.

And a BIG common goal is to eliminate the SDF also known as the Kurds that the USA is working with. Because EVERYONE wants the OIL Patch that the Kurds control. It is part of the Kurdish national homeland and the Turks want them GONE, as do the Iranians AND the Russians.
 

GotGrace

Well-Known Member
https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/S...te-growing-Russia-Iran-Turkey-alliance-602787

This JPost article from 7 hours ago reports on the growing alliance between the 3 major players in the coming Ezekiel 38 & 39 war on Israel. We've been seeing this growing alliance for some time, but as this article points out key differences are being smoothed out. Here are some excerpts:

"Initially, Russia and Iran were on one side of the Syrian civil war and Turkey on the other side, to the extent that in 2015, there were theories that they might come into conflict over Syria. But over time, things changed.

Turkey became closer to Russia – seeing a potential dealmaker that could be trusted, and finding a warm ear in Moscow when Turkey broached the subject of taking over parts of northern Syria, including Afrin. Moscow gave the green light over time, allowing Turkey to use Syria’s airspace and making sure the Syrian regime – a key ally of Russia – did not intervene. Turkey is now poised to seek to control a swath of Syria that could result in Turkish control of more than 30% of the country if Ankara gets everything it wants in eastern and northern Syria.

Meanwhile, Turkey and Iran grew closer economically, with Turkey seeking ways around US sanctions and seeking to boost trade to $30 billion from $10 billion in 2017. Turkey, Russia and Iran bond over Syria because they all oppose the US’s role. Turkey accuses the US of training terrorists in eastern Syria. Turkey, once opposed to Iran’s growing role in Iraq, has found accommodations with Tehran after an Iranian-backed Iraqi offensive into Kirkuk in the wake of the Kurdistan Regional Government referendum. Most importantly, Turkey is getting Russia’s S-400 – a deal that originated in 2017 and resulted in delivery of the system in the summer of 2019. It may go online in April 2020."


Here is another gem hidden in the article:
"Turkey and Russia also work closely on TurkStream, the pipeline under the Black Sea that is linked to more muscular Turkish policies in the Mediterranean." You can see the growing competition with Israel's pipeline and Israel's oil. And the growing sense of envy and greed.

As DanLMP and others here have long been concerned-- there are nukes in Incirlik, Turkey, stored there at a base operated by Americans, which briefly came under some kind of attack or lock down or kidnap attempt during Erdogan's crackdown on the attempted coup a couple of years back. Those nukes are still there-- because Turkey is still a NATO ally at least on paper. As a recent thread here noted, https://www.raptureforums.com/forum...free-for-all-or-banned.152633/#post-842864096 Erdogan is now demanding that he be given the go ahead to develop nukes of his own. As we have seen him work in the past, he never lets any of his promises or agreements get in the way of getting whatever he wants.

And here's what they are planning for the future:
"Of course, Moscow and Tehran have different motives. Tehran wants Turkey as a market amid sanctions. It wants to use southern Syria as part of its land-bridge strategy to threaten Israel, necessitating some abeyance from Turkey. Russia wants Turkey to also smooth the way for things in northern Syria. That means that it doesn’t mind if Turkey re-settles refugees in eastern Syria, where the US and mostly Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces are present.

This will kill two birds with one stone: it will weaken the SDF-US (
Margery here, that means THE KURDS) partnership while also moving the refugees away from Idlib. Russia’s goal is to break down the last extremist groups in Idlib. Turkey will be glad to see them go, because both Russia and Turkey want the last independent Syrian factions to evaporate, and that means defeating the SDF in the East and HTS in Idlib. It means neutralizing the last Syrian rebels by getting them to fight the SDF. Everyone gets something in this equation, except those Syrians who dared to join opposition groups."

I think at the same time as Israel is having election turmoil and uncertain leadership for the near future, her enemies are wasting no time in cementing their bonds and advancing their separate goals for carving up Syria.

And a BIG common goal is to eliminate the SDF also known as the Kurds that the USA is working with. Because EVERYONE wants the OIL Patch that the Kurds control. It is part of the Kurdish national homeland and the Turks want them GONE, as do the Iranians AND the Russians.
Thank you Athenasius for this information. You “splain” it so well. I don’t always capture the little gems when I’m reading an article. It’s probably old age!
 
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