It is extremely difficult to witness to Roman Catholics and to attempt to persuade them that most of Rome's teachings are unbiblical. It took me 10 years to finally break free of their bonds before I was finally convinced that they had deceived me for 35 years up until that point. The indoctrination and brainwashing, as you put it, is so pervasive in their system, that even after reading the Bible for a decade, it was still difficult to break free from their ranks. I knew that what I was reading in Scripture didn't line up to what they were duping their followers into believing, but still, all the "One True Church" business, the supposed "marian apparitions'. the "Mother of God" nonsense and everything else Roman Catholic made it hard to convince myself that they were not true biblical Christianity. The devil was very clever in devising this ruse of a false religious system. It wasn't until 1991 during a period of unemployment - the Lord used a couple of "timeout" periods of unemployment to get my attention [the first one got me into reading the Bible for the first time] - that I'm sitting in a Catholic mass and the priest tells the congregation 'that we are now going to sing songs of praise to the "Holy Mother", that I finally broke free of their clutches. I couldn't sit there and do that, and it was almost like the Holy Spirit yanking me out of my pew to get me out of there.SkyRider, excellent contrast of some Catholic beliefs to the Truth of the Scriptures. I spent some time last week with some old friends who are devout Roman Catholics and I tried my best to show them the errors in their belief system, but it is so hard to de-program decades of brainwashing by the RCC! I asked them if they believed that Jesus was Lord, crucified to pay the penalty for our sins and then raised from the dead and they agreed with me. At least they believe in the Gospel message, but I got tired of listening to stories of Marian apparitions and supposed divine revelations from Catholic saints. It was making my head spin. Next time I see them I will try a different approach. I forgot how stubborn they can be.