Is Marxism Poisoning America’s Evangelical Churches?

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
It's getting more and more difficult to find a good church. We're may be entering a season where small home church gatherings become the way to go if you want sound teaching and good fellowship. While I say that I know that there are some towns across the USA that still have more than one very good church to choose from... but more towns have none.
 

daygo

Well-Known Member
It's getting more and more difficult to find a good church. We're may be entering a season where small home church gatherings become the way to go if you want sound teaching and good fellowship. While I say that I know that there are some towns across the USA that still have more than one very good church to choose from... but more towns have none.
As far as I know there are no home churches in UK at the moment.
 

JamesSuth

Well-Known Member
It has certainly happened to the UK church. The mainstream churches (Church of England, Church of Scotland) have Twitter feeds that are parrot - style repeat of what the world is saying mixed with some religious language. Forget about speaking about salvation or Jesus, they seem to only have an interest in socialism and liberal politics. It is sad, the only bright side is that it seems to match the Laodicean church and some suggest that will be the state of the church at the Lord's return (the bright side being I take it as a sign that His return is not far off).
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
Critical race theory and marxism are even invading very conservative churches. Some Pastors got caught up in CRT after George Floyd :apostasy
When it happens, the Elders, Congregational President, and other Pastor(s) (if any) need to step in and get rid of the offending Pastor(s)
Parishioners need to complain immediately when they see or hear something that isn't right.

When the evil of political correctness of any kind is cast out of the church (the offending Pastor(s)) fired), the church is stronger, if for no other reason than the Parishioners, Congregational officers, Elders, Deacons, Deaconesses, and Pastor(s) collaborated to expel evil and remain/become stronger salt and light in the world. People learn the church must lead the world, not conform to it, and gain backbone to resist further attacks, evil, and eventual persecution.

Those churches, which fail to expel the evil, are doomed to continued slide into apostasy and their witness compromised. Those, which stand up to the evil get stronger and their members get persecuted, with a glorious witness.

This happened in Nazi Germany. The liberal (state-sanctioned) Lutheran Church didn't stand up to Hitler, kept on compromising, and ended up going along with and even supporting the evil. OTOH, the non-state-sanctioned conservative Lutheran Church stood up to Hitler the best that it could and the leaders and parishioners were persecuted and even killed for being salt and light/not kow-towing to evil. To this day, the liberal church is in favor with society and government, and the conservative church is looked as being traitorous because the zeitgeist there teaches that the government is right and the church is to do what the government says, instead of providing moral and spiritual leadership.

When a church"goes along to get along," the church's reputation is besmirched and it's witness is compromised. Often to the point of having lost all of its saltiness and light, and then there is no credible witness.

No different than churches and Pastors that stand up against homosexual and transgender agendas today. Those, who refuse to compromise what the Bible says, and stand fast, will be strengthened, blessed, and persecuted. Those, who compromise the faith will ultimately compromise so far that Bible-based doctrine of the church will be discarded, in favor of apostate doctrines, which deny the inerrancy of God's Word, and which support and bless sin/evil :apostasy


:pray :pray :amen :amen
 

Lovin Jesus

Well-Known Member
Critical race theory and marxism are even invading very conservative churches. Some Pastors got caught up in CRT after George Floyd :apostasy
When it happens, the Elders, Congregational President, and other Pastor(s) (if any) need to step in and get rid of the offending Pastor(s)
Parishioners need to complain immediately when they see or hear something that isn't right.

When the evil of political correctness of any kind is cast out of the church (the offending Pastor(s)) fired), the church is stronger, if for no other reason than the Parishioners, Congregational officers, Elders, Deacons, Deaconesses, and Pastor(s) collaborated to expel evil and remain/become stronger salt and light in the world. People learn the church must lead the world, not conform to it, and gain backbone to resist further attacks, evil, and eventual persecution.

Those churches, which fail to expel the evil, are doomed to continued slide into apostasy and their witness compromised. Those, which stand up to the evil get stronger and their members get persecuted, with a glorious witness.

This happened in Nazi Germany. The liberal (state-sanctioned) Lutheran Church didn't stand up to Hitler, kept on compromising, and ended up going along with and even supporting the evil. OTOH, the non-state-sanctioned conservative Lutheran Church stood up to Hitler the best that it could and the leaders and parishioners were persecuted and even killed for being salt and light/not kow-towing to evil. To this day, the liberal church is in favor with society and government, and the conservative church is looked as being traitorous because the zeitgeist there teaches that the government is right and the church is to do what the government says, instead of providing moral and spiritual leadership.

When a church"goes along to get along," the church's reputation is besmirched and it's witness is compromised. Often to the point of having lost all of its saltiness and light, and then there is no credible witness.

No different than churches and Pastors that stand up against homosexual and transgender agendas today. Those, who refuse to compromise what the Bible says, and stand fast, will be strengthened, blessed, and persecuted. Those, who compromise the faith will ultimately compromise so far that Bible-based doctrine of the church will be discarded, in favor of apostate doctrines, which deny the inerrancy of God's Word, and which support and bless sin/evil :apostasy


:pray :pray :amen :amen
The church I used to go to got into the social justice pretty heavy and the Pastor had given the pulpit to someone to address the church his frustration about the George Floyd verdict of the officer and expressed his disdain for police making a blanket statement that law enforcement in general are bad and racist. It got me uncomfortable hearing him talk that way from the pulpit. I felt that shouldn't have been talked about from the same pulpit God's word is preached from. He should have taken it outside of the sanctuary all together. Our assembly of ourselves as the church is to edify, build one another up, not to give speeches on social justice in and vilifying law enforcement..

"Not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near".
Hebrews 10:25
 

Carl

Well-Known Member
It's getting more and more difficult to find a good church. We're may be entering a season where small home church gatherings become the way to go if you want sound teaching and good fellowship. While I say that I know that there are some towns across the USA that still have more than one very good church to choose from... but more towns have none.
I don't know what you think of Johnathan Cahn, but the message he is giving is that the church has to go back to the way it was during the Book of Acts. Tireless and fearless!
 

twerpv

Well-Known Member
Critical race theory and marxism are even invading very conservative churches. Some Pastors got caught up in CRT after George Floyd :apostasy
When it happens, the Elders, Congregational President, and other Pastor(s) (if any) need to step in and get rid of the offending Pastor(s)
Parishioners need to complain immediately when they see or hear something that isn't right.

When the evil of political correctness of any kind is cast out of the church (the offending Pastor(s)) fired), the church is stronger, if for no other reason than the Parishioners, Congregational officers, Elders, Deacons, Deaconesses, and Pastor(s) collaborated to expel evil and remain/become stronger salt and light in the world. People learn the church must lead the world, not conform to it, and gain backbone to resist further attacks, evil, and eventual persecution.

Those churches, which fail to expel the evil, are doomed to continued slide into apostasy and their witness compromised. Those, which stand up to the evil get stronger and their members get persecuted, with a glorious witness.

This happened in Nazi Germany. The liberal (state-sanctioned) Lutheran Church didn't stand up to Hitler, kept on compromising, and ended up going along with and even supporting the evil. OTOH, the non-state-sanctioned conservative Lutheran Church stood up to Hitler the best that it could and the leaders and parishioners were persecuted and even killed for being salt and light/not kow-towing to evil. To this day, the liberal church is in favor with society and government, and the conservative church is looked as being traitorous because the zeitgeist there teaches that the government is right and the church is to do what the government says, instead of providing moral and spiritual leadership.

When a church"goes along to get along," the church's reputation is besmirched and it's witness is compromised. Often to the point of having lost all of its saltiness and light, and then there is no credible witness.

No different than churches and Pastors that stand up against homosexual and transgender agendas today. Those, who refuse to compromise what the Bible says, and stand fast, will be strengthened, blessed, and persecuted. Those, who compromise the faith will ultimately compromise so far that Bible-based doctrine of the church will be discarded, in favor of apostate doctrines, which deny the inerrancy of God's Word, and which support and bless sin/evil :apostasy


:pray :pray :amen :amen
Very well stated. The Elders are supposed to be guide rails for the church. For our church, we have Elders but we also have a group of us that look to hold them accountable as well. Not in a bad way but in a biblical way.
 

Jojo4124

Well-Known Member
The church I used to go to got into the social justice pretty heavy and the Pastor had given the pulpit to someone to address the church his frustration about the George Floyd verdict of the officer and expressed his disdain for police making a blanket statement that law enforcement in general are bad and racist. It got me uncomfortable hearing him talk that way from the pulpit. I felt that shouldn't have been talked about from the same pulpit God's word is preached from. He should have taken it outside of the sanctuary all together. Our assembly of ourselves as the church is to edify, build one another up, not to give speeches on social justice in and vilifying law enforcement..

"Not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near".
Hebrews 10:25
It only takes 2 to "gather"....where 2 or more come tohether in My Name...
 

Jojo4124

Well-Known Member
Have you heard about Clergy Response Teams? Pastors sign on, n get paid I think, to agree to push a verse in Romans regarding respecting the government...in the event that the govt wants ppl to do someting. Pastors are signing up to manipulate their congregations. Ask your pastor if he joined the clergy response team n if your church gets govt money for this. Started years ago. Beware.

Civil disobedience is ok if a pastor or govt do things that will hurt you. I just think of all the Jews who got on the trains in nazi days....they were lied to.
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
The church I used to go to got into the social justice pretty heavy and the Pastor had given the pulpit to someone to address the church his frustration about the George Floyd verdict of the officer and expressed his disdain for police making a blanket statement that law enforcement in general are bad and racist. It got me uncomfortable hearing him talk that way from the pulpit. I felt that shouldn't have been talked about from the same pulpit God's word is preached from. He should have taken it outside of the sanctuary all together. Our assembly of ourselves as the church is to edify, build one another up, not to give speeches on social justice in and vilifying law enforcement..

"Not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near".
Hebrews 10:25

I have been known to walk out of a church . . .

Clapping the dust off one's sandals and all that.
 
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