Is Jesus God In Human Form?

Chris

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Is Jesus God In Human Form?
A Bible Study by Jack Kelley

Recently my belief that Jesus is God in human form was challenged again. This has happened to me several times in the past and while I’ve laid out the Biblical basis for my belief in several articles I’ve never specifically addressed the common objections others have put forth. In this study, I’ll do just that.

But first I want to lay a brief theological foundation that in my opinion proves that Jesus has to be God in human form. In fact, I think it will demonstrate that if Jesus isn’t God then none of us is saved. It’s based on three points.

1. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23)
2. Without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sin (Hebrews 9:22)
3. A righteous man for an unrighteous mankind (1 Peter 3:18)

All Have Sinned​

Adam was created in the image of God. He had the freedom to choose right or wrong, the intellect with which to decide, and he was immortal. When he sinned he was exercising his right to choose, but one of the consequences of his choice was that he became mortal. Another was that all of his descendants would be born with a sin nature that would make it impossible for them to live a sin free life. That meant there was no way for them to live up to God’s standards and expect to spend eternity with Him. Without a means of redemption, they would all be hopelessly lost because since that time all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23).

No Blood, No Forgiveness​

From cover to cover the Bible consistently teaches that it takes the shedding of blood to reverse the consequences of sin. When Adam and Eve became conscious of their sin and hid from God, He clothed them with the skins of animals. This symbolized “covering” them through the shedding of blood so they could stand before Him (Genesis 3:21). God also taught Cain and Abel that the only acceptable offering involved the shedding of blood. When Cain presented an improper offering it was rejected, and God admonished him saying, “If you do what is right will you not be accepted?” (Genesis 4:7). In Egypt, the Israelites were saved from the destroyer by the blood of a lamb applied to their doorposts (Exodus 12:7,13).

Later, after Moses documented it in the Torah we could see that the entire Levitical system was based on the shedding of blood. According to the amplified version of Hebrews 9:22, under the Law almost everything is purified by means of blood, and without the shedding of blood there is neither release from sin and its guilt nor the remission of the due and merited punishment for sins.

The Righteous For The Unrighteous​

As the revelation of God’s remedy for the sins of the people progresses through the Old Testament we begin to see that the only animals acceptable for sin offerings were those that symbolize innocence in our minds. Who can think of anything more innocent than a year old lamb? It was this animal God chose to demonstrate the need for innocent blood to be shed for the remission of sin (Exodus 30:38). We also learn that these animals had to be perfect specimens, free from spot or blemish (Exodus 12:5).

From the New Testament, we learn that even these perfect innocent animals could only set the sins of the people aside temporarily. They were a model of the sacrifice God required, not the sacrifice itself. Eventually it would take the blood of a perfect, innocent man to pay for the sins of mankind (Hebrews 10:1-14). A righteous man would have to pay the price for the sins of unrighteous mankind to bring us to God (1 Peter 3:18).

The problem was there were no perfect innocent men. From the first children of Adam and Eve to this very day there has not been a perfect sin free man among their natural descendants who could be offered as a sacrifice for the sins of mankind. We are all contaminated by our sin nature and are not acceptable to redeem mankind even if we wanted to, because we’re not perfect innocent specimens.

Many people don’t realize this, but being sin free is not just a matter of preventing oneself from doing certain things. Sin begins in our heart, in our thoughts and desires, and the heart of man is incurably wicked (Jeremiah 17:9). Because of our sin nature, it’s impossible to prevent ourselves from having a sinful thought now and then. It only takes one, and no matter how fleeting it is, as soon as it comes we’re no longer sin free. The Pharisees were obsessive about keeping the Law, but Jesus said even their righteousness was not sufficient to gain them entrance into the kingdom (Matt. 5:20).

Angels can take on the appearance of men and according to Hebrews 13:2 some of us have entertained angels without knowing it. But it is strictly forbidden for angels to actually become men and those who did so in the past are even now chained in dark prisons awaiting their judgment (Jude 1:6). Even though the angels who remain faithful to God don’t sin, man cannot be saved by the sacrifice of an angel.

So then, the blood of animals could only temporarily set man’s sins aside. All natural born men are disqualified because of their sin nature. Angels are forbidden. There was only one way humans could be saved and it required God Himself to become human. And to be human, He had to come into the world in the way of all people. He had to be born of a woman.

But as we’ve seen above, when you combine the egg of an earthly woman with the sperm of an earthly man their offspring will inherit a sin nature and be disqualified. To maintain His purity, God had to be born of a woman but without an earthly father. In this way, He could be all God and all man, a perfect, innocent specimen of mankind. The one we know as Jesus is the only one in the history of mankind to be so.

Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them. Such a high priest truly meets our need—one who is holy, blameless, pure, set apart from sinners, exalted above the heavens (Hebr. 7:25-26).

What Was The Question?​

With that beginning, there are five places in the New Testament where testimony is given to support the fact that Jesus is God in human form. These are the verses I use to explain my belief in the deity of Jesus and naturally they are also the verses others focus on in denying it.

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning” – (John 1:1-2).

The naysayers would have us believe that because the name “Jesus” does not appear in this passage my belief that its about Jesus is just a private interpretation that can’t be confirmed. Let’s see if they’re right.

John went on to explain who “the Word” is. I say “who” because John used the personal pronoun “He” in referring to him. Verse 3 tells us all things were made through Him and without Him nothing that has been made was made. That makes “the Word” the Creator of all. Verse 10 says He was in the world and though the world was made by Him the world did not recognize Him. Even His own people did not receive Him.

John 1:12-13 says that to all who received Him and believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God. In verse 14 John said the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Several translations of verse 18 (but not all) tell us that no one has ever seen God, but His one and only son, who is God Himself, has made Him known to us. Even without the testimony of verse 18, it seems clear to me that John was speaking of Jesus throughout. But there’s more.

“The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.” – (Colossians 1:15-16).

Here the argument is that Colossians 1:15 says Jesus is the image of God, not God himself and that verse 16 is describing God not Jesus. But what verse 15 means is that the Son is the visible form of the invisible God. And to say that verse 16 is describing God and not Jesus is a violation of the context. Colossians 1: 15-18 are all about Jesus. They only mention God as being the invisible One of whom Jesus is the visible image.

It’s worth noting that in Colossians 1:16 Paul attributed the creation of all things to the Son. John 1:3 says the Word made everything that was made. This confirms that “the Word” and “the Son” are one and the same.

“I and my Father are one” – (John 10:30).

These are the words of Jesus Himself and the controversy is over the Greek word translated “one”. Here’s the position of those who deny the deity of Jesus.

“John 10:30 is quite a controversial verse however when you read it in the Greek you learn that the Greeks have different words for the word one. There is a word for one in the same and a word for one in purpose. The Greek word used here is the word for one in purpose not one in the same.”

Every major English translation agrees that this verse says, “I and the Father are one”. The Greek word translated “one” in this verse was used to say the number one when counting in Greek. A plain sense reading of the verse indicates that Jesus was saying He and the Father are one. Most Bibles offer no further explanation or clarification, indicating the verse means what it says. Only those who deny the deity of Jesus have trouble accepting this. And remember, the Jews wanted Jesus put to death for claiming to be God, not for claiming to have the same goals or purpose as God.

Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? (John 14:9)

This verse confirms Paul’s statement in Colossians 1:15 above and the statement in Hebr. 1:3 that, “The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being.” Jesus plainly told Philip that He is the visible form of the invisible God. But the naysayers use their interpretation of John 10:30 to justify their claim that in John 14:9 Jesus really meant we can see God in the works of Jesus Christ.

But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom” (Hebr. 1:8).

This is God speaking about His son. Again, all the major translations are nearly identical and they all capitalize “God” to indicate the fact that the Father considers the Son to be a deity. Here’s the opposing view.

“Hebrew 1:8 is also very controversial however if you look at the previous context you can see the distinction between God and Christ. Calling someone god is actually an eastern custom. Moses was called a god in Exodus 7:1 and the children of God were also called gods in Psalms 82:6. Calling someone god is a form of respect when someone holds a high place of office. In the East servants to this day call their king lord or god. Wives also in the east refer to their husbands as lord. So calling Jesus God in this verse is just a misunderstanding from not recognizing eastern customs.”

Notice the writer of this opinion used the lower case “god” in every instance except where he was speaking of God the Father, and remember that in every translation of Hebr. 1:8 the word God is capitalized when speaking of the Son.

In the King James version of Exodus 7:1 God said when Moses went before Pharaoh with his brother Aaron, he would be “a god” (lower case “g”) to Pharaoh and Aaron would be his prophet. Other translations say he would be “as” God or “like God”. The idea here is that God was sending Moses in His place, and Aaron would speak for Moses like a prophet speaks for God. Moses was not being called God.

In Psalm 82:6 the word “god” appears in reference to the Israelites. Again note the lower case, which means it refers to a “ruler or judge”. And if you read the whole Psalm you’ll see how sarcastic God is being there. In the first verse, He referred to Himself as “God” who gives judgment among the “gods”. Then He accused them of faulty and corrupt practices and warned them to start defending the cause of the less fortunate among them and start showing mercy. In verses 6-7 He said, “You are gods but you will die like mere men, you will fall like every other ruler.” No one believes God was addressing the Israelites as deity.

It’s true that the word “Lord” is used as a term of respect for rulers, judges and perhaps even husbands in various parts of the world. But no one in these places believes the one they’re addressing is the God of the universe. The claim that a literal interpretation of Hebrews 1:8 is incorrect due to a misunderstanding of Eastern customs is an argument without merit.

I began by showing that Jesus could only be qualified to serve as the perfect sacrifice required to save us if He actually is God in human form. Now we see the testimony of John (John 1:1-2) Paul (Colossians 1:15-16) Jesus (John 10:30, John 14:9) the writer of Hebrews (Hebr. 1:3) and God Himself (Hebr. 1:8) all saying that’s the case.

I’ve said before that I don’t think you have to believe Jesus is God in human form before you can ask Him to save you. But the Bible is clear that after you’re saved you should come to understand that’s who He is. Because of the increasing presence of false teaching in the Church today and the lack of emphasis on personal study, many are not aware of the fact that it took the sacrifice of God himself to save them. When asked about it they can only repeat what they’ve heard, and sadly much of what they’ve heard is not consistent with sound doctrine.

If what you’ve read here is new information for you, I urge you to look up the references I’ve cited and study them for yourself. Paul warned us not to risk our eternal destiny on the opinions of others, but to search the Scriptures daily to see if what they say is true (Acts 17:11). It’s too important to take anyone else’s word for it. Selah.

https://www.raptureforums.com/bible-study/is-jesus-god-in-human-form/
 

Salluz

Aspiring Man of God
Psalm 49 is another great support for Christ's deity

7 Truly no man can ransom another, or give to God the price of his life, 8 for the ransom of their life is costly and can never suffice, 9 that he should live on forever and never see the pit.

Only a man could redeem mankind (as a kinsman redeemer), but only God could pay the price for us to live forever. So God became a man and died for us. His infinite worth is sufficient for us to "live on forever and never see the pit."
 

DWB

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I honestly once believed the Trinity was like the lineup for Olympic medals. God was in the center on the highest platform, then Jesus to His right on a slightly lower platform, and then the Holy Spirit on the other side a little lower than Jesus. God was the father figure, Jesus was His Son therefore lower on the totem pole, and then the Holy Spirit floating around doing whatever He does. Thankfully my eyes were opened and I see more clearly.
 

Carl

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Before I became a Christian I did believe that God did indeed exist. Shortly after I gave my sinful heart to Jesus and He cleaned it I accepted that "Three in One and One in Three the Trinity! If the Bible said it I believed it!

When I was Saved I listened to Christian radio all the time. Even Ken Copeland, and all the rest good, bad, or indifferent. So I have to say that God protected me from the lies of all the enemies on the Christian radio.

One in Three and three in one and the one in the middle died for me!
 

Spartan Sprinter 1

Formerly known as Shaun
I honestly once believed the Trinity was like the lineup for Olympic medals. God was in the center on the highest platform, then Jesus to His right on a slightly lower platform, and then the Holy Spirit on the other side a little lower than Jesus. God was the father figure, Jesus was His Son therefore lower on the totem pole, and then the Holy Spirit floating around doing whatever He does. Thankfully my eyes were opened and I see more clearly.
LOL i use to have the same view too
 

Chris

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I honestly once believed the Trinity was like the lineup for Olympic medals. God was in the center on the highest platform, then Jesus to His right on a slightly lower platform, and then the Holy Spirit on the other side a little lower than Jesus. God was the father figure, Jesus was His Son therefore lower on the totem pole, and then the Holy Spirit floating around doing whatever He does. Thankfully my eyes were opened and I see more clearly.

The best understanding I have heard of trying to explain the Trinity is where someone likened the Trinity to water.

God the Father would be the "Living water" in which everything came from. Jesus would be the solid physical form of water called "ice" in that he came into the world in bodily form. The Holy Spirit would be like "steam" in that He is here in spiritual form.

These two special forms of the Living God - Jesus (ice) and the Holy Spirit (steam) - are still God (the Living Water) in their default stage, but they take on their special form when needed. The Holy Spirit to indwelt mankind and Jesus to complete His work on the Cross.

I know some may not like this example, but it was when I read it the best one I have heard so far. And it helped put it in a way that I have seen and experienced in real life.

I don;t think we will fully understand the Trinity on this side of things. JMHO. :idunno
 

Andy C

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This is just my opinion we are made in God's image, body soul and spirit, so why can't God be God the spirit, Jesus the physical body, the holy spirit the soul of the same person if you get my drift.
Im not quite sure I understand your post, and for any of us to properly explain the trinity is hard. All I know is the below verse without any doubts, describes 3 separate beings, yet we know there is only one God.

John 15

26 “When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me
 

Mocha Latte

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The best understanding I have heard of trying to explain the Trinity is where someone likened the Trinity to water.

God the Father would be the "Living water" in which everything came from. Jesus would be the solid physical form of water called "ice" in that he came into the world in bodily form. The Holy Spirit would be like "steam" in that He is here in spiritual form.

These two special forms of the Living God - Jesus (ice) and the Holy Spirit (steam) - are still God (the Living Water) in their default stage, but they take on their special form when needed. The Holy Spirit to indwelt mankind and Jesus to complete His work on the Cross.

I know some may not like this example, but it was when I read it the best one I have heard so far. And it helped put it in a way that I have seen and experienced in real life.

I don;t think we will fully understand the Trinity on this side of things. JMHO. :idunno
Thank you for this, as it is a pretty good analogy. As others have mentioned, I think it’s hard for all of us to explain the Trinity so every bit helps.

I think you’re right with your last statement, that probably none of us will fully understand the Trinity on this side of things. I have frustrated myself for years trying to completely understand the Trinity, but I think the problem is our finite brains trying to comprehend the infinite…we simply can’t do it in our present form. I think we need to understand what we can now and accept God at His word for the rest. I bet we will “get it” once we are in our glorified form.
 

daygo

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Im not quite sure I understand your post, and for any of us to properly explain the trinity is hard. All I know is the below verse without any doubts, describes 3 separate beings, yet we know there is only one God.

John 15

26 “When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me
We know Christ came and born of a human mother, scripture says God the Father is spirit ,we are body spirit and soul putting 2 and 2 together we have the above.
 

Andy C

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We know Christ came and born of a human mother, scripture says God the Father is spirit ,we are body spirit and soul putting 2 and 2 together we have the above.
Sorry, Im still confused.

All I know is the 3 always were One, and yet separate beings. Im happy Jesus allowed Himself to be born from a human mother, so He could live and die for us!
 

Chris

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Thank you for this, as it is a pretty good analogy. As others have mentioned, I think it’s hard for all of us to explain the Trinity so every bit helps.

I think you’re right with your last statement, that probably none of us will fully understand the Trinity on this side of things. I have frustrated myself for years trying to completely understand the Trinity, but I think the problem is our finite brains trying to comprehend the infinite…we simply can’t do it in our present form. I think we need to understand what we can now and accept God at His word for the rest. I bet we will “get it” once we are in our glorified form.

Yes, we will not fully understand or even comprehend the power and love of God.

Sometimes when I just sit still and think, I think about where the Bible says that God "spoke" everything in existence. When you think about that for a minute, it seems so incredible that I can't even put my mind around it. :thinking

Think of this, man struggles just to bring in the package of bottle water into the house. He struggles to bring in the 50 pound bag of dog food. But none of that is even the smallest fraction of what God did when he simply spoke everything in existence. Imagine the power that was needed to do this. :faint2

When the Bible tells us that nothing can separate us from the Love of God and that no one can take us from His hands, you better believe it because ain't no one that strong. :nod

The bible also says that no one has seen, no one has heard, and no has imagined the things that God has in store for those who love Him! Even if you looked in a book of the World's top 100 most beautiful places in the world, they are nothing compared to what is to come.

It is true that the best is yet to come!!! :nod
 

daygo

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Sorry, Im still confused.

All I know is the 3 always were One, and yet separate beings. Im happy Jesus allowed Himself to be born from a human mother, so He could live and die for us!
Sorry, Im still confused.

All I know is the 3 always were One, and yet separate beings. Im happy Jesus allowed Himself to be born from a human mother, so He could live and die for us!

Yes, we will not fully understand or even comprehend the power and love of God.

Sometimes when I just sit still and think, I think about where the Bible says that God "spoke" everything in existence. When you think about that for a minute, it seems so incredible that I can't even put my mind around it. :thinking

Think of this, man struggles just to bring in the package of bottle water into the house. He struggles to bring in the 50 pound bag of dog food. But none of that is even the smallest fraction of what God did when he simply spoke everything in existence. Imagine the power that was needed to do this. :faint2

When the Bible tells us that nothing can separate us from the Love of God and that no one can take us from His hands, you better believe it because ain't no one that strong. :nod

The bible also says that no one has seen, no one has heard, and no has imagined the things that God has in store for those who love Him! Even if you looked in a book of the World's top 100 most beautiful places in the world, they are nothing compared to what is to come.

It is true that the best is yet to come!!! :nod
So true Chris. Also last call don't know of any other way of saying it, we are body spirit and soul, if God is spirit body and soul and we are made in his image, just another way of thinking it like Chris said above about water ice and steam or an apple really just that I'm thinking of 3 people in one yet separate.
 
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star drop

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Quote from the initial post.

"But as we’ve seen above, when you combine the egg of an earthly woman with the sperm of an earthly man their offspring will inherit a sin nature and be disqualified. To maintain His purity, God had to be born of a woman but without an earthly father. In this way, He could be all God and all man, a perfect, innocent specimen of mankind. The one we know as Jesus is the only one in the history of mankind to be so."

Genesis 3:
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Eve ate first. Adam sinned by following her. Therefore any egg of any earthly woman also will inherit a sin nature. Where did the sinless egg come from?
 

ItIsFinished!

Blood bought child of the King of kings.
Quote from the initial post.

"But as we’ve seen above, when you combine the egg of an earthly woman with the sperm of an earthly man their offspring will inherit a sin nature and be disqualified. To maintain His purity, God had to be born of a woman but without an earthly father. In this way, He could be all God and all man, a perfect, innocent specimen of mankind. The one we know as Jesus is the only one in the history of mankind to be so."

Genesis 3:
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Eve ate first. Adam sinned by following her. Therefore any egg of any earthly woman also will inherit a sin nature. Where did the sinless egg come from?
Luke 1:34-35
Then said Mary unto the angel, How
shall this be , seeing I know not a man?
And the angel answered and said unto
her , The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee,
and the power of the Highest shall overshadow
thee: therefore also that holy thing which
shall be born of thee shall be called the
Son of God.
 

ItIsFinished!

Blood bought child of the King of kings.
Jesus is God's word in human form.
Jesus who obtain divinity become word of God,the word was God.cuz Jesus is the son of God, he obtain divinity Quite normal.
Jesus said that when we see Him, we see God. That means when we know him and we know the word of God, It does not mean that we see the appearance of God,but we need to though Jesus to understand the word of God,the word was God,and the word became flesh,Jesus is the living word of God in human form.
So it's normal for us to think of Jesus as the one true God, and it's not surprising, because Jesus looks so much like one true God, both inside and outside.as Jesus said, John 14:10
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

what Jesus is describing is not metaphorical, but very straightforward. I experienced that miracle once, it was that I felt a soul entered in my body , This soul both inside and outside me ,I suddenly felt my feelings become my father's feelings, as if I was in his feelings,or as if he was in my feelings, and I was a little confused about who I was. Was I myself and myself is my father too? My father here is not the father of Jesus.

I respect the Trinity anyway, and in a way it is.
BUT
Jesus is the little prince, while God is the old king. It is said in my Bible book that you all favourite the little prince and ignore the old king, but I tried to search for where it in the Bible which I read before in the Old Testament ,but couldn't find the original in the Bible,Maybe something happened to my old Bible book, it looked like it was a sealed Bible book,The Book cover grew a seal of its own, but that was a thing of the past, and I burn up that book away in a fit of irritation.my bad.

poetry
82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

proverbs
8:16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
8:17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

Ecclesiastes
4:14 For out of prison he cometh to reign; whereas also he that is born in his kingdom becometh poor.
4:15 I considered all the living which walk under the sun, with the second child that shall stand up in his stead.

I only received this knowledge from God, I did not discover it by myself.

Don't worry that if Jesus is not the one true God, we will don't have salvation problems.anyway Jesus is the word of God never change.if God said we have salvation then we have it.
Jesus is God. He didn't obtain divinity as you have stated , twice.

Jesus is the Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6


Soul entering you?? What??

I understand there is a language barrier and I usually can feel what you are going for , but this post is erratic and in error.

You said dont' worry if Jesus is not the one true God???
WHAT??

Jesus Christ is the ONLY TRUE living God.
 

star drop

New Member
According to science there may be more to the overshadowing. Taken from the article linked to below "The phenomenon was discovered several decades ago, when male DNA was detected in the bloodstream of a woman."

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/.../babys-cells-can.../
 
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