Is anyone stocking up? And some thoughts.

Jan51

Well-Known Member
I have all kinds of canned food stored. The trouble is, I no longer eat packaged foods, they almost all have additives. Eating clean and simple feels great, but I can sure tell when I have eaten something else, like at a restaurant or church dinner. Generally I lay awake and can't get to sleep due to increased heartrate. So if I had to start eating my stash, I'm wondering how my body would adjust.
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
I am not prepping for the end of the world. I have maybe three months, enough to get by basic shortages. We will keep shopping through any shortage.
One thing I did was focus on was rice. Its a carb heavy food...but more importantly it does not produce much smell while cooking. Making bread gives off a wonderful, "Come and get it!" smell. I'm not looking to attract hungry people.

I am also going heavy on canned meats: diced Ham and chicken. socialist countries cannot keep the power on and my freezer may not be good for long. I have #10 cans of freeze dried hamburger.

we are keeping the stock piling secret from the kids, and relatives. The reason is this may last longer than we're prepared for...and I'm beginning to think it is a deliberate strategy from the Democrats, designed to usher in the great reset.

Loose lips sink ships . . . aka, OPSEC :tappingfoot


If it's cold enough outside, refrigerated and/or frozen items can be kept in the porch or outside :biggrin If outside, in a clean trash can or latched cooler (minimum), depending on the wildlife in your area. Don't forget that raccoons have opposable thumbs, so additional measures to secure your container(s) may be necessary.

If not, stuff can be canned, dehydrated, or freeze dried. If you don't have a generator to power a home freeze dryer, freeze drying will probably be a no go because dry ice will be even harder to find than regular ice if there's no power for any length of time.


Behind God, your church, and your family, good neighbors are essential when truly hard times hit.
Your neighbors may well become your family and church family if travel becomes a serious problem due to official restrictions, persecution, crime, violence, pestilence, contamination, cost/availability of fuel, etc.
Loving one's neighbor as one's self is really put to the test when horrible times happen, but is so very rewarding in so many ways.

It is easier to defend a contiguous group of houses than a single house. Shared resources and cooperation can make it easier for everyone in the group.

20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Matthew 18:20, KJV


:pray :pray :amen :amen
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
Applesauce went up another dime :frown

I found unscented Lysol laundry sanitizer today. In the big bottle, even!

:bouncies


Last time I saw the unscented was over a year-and-a-half ago, and it was in small bottles


:thankyou
JESUS!!! :thankyou
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
I have all kinds of canned food stored. The trouble is, I no longer eat packaged foods, they almost all have additives. Eating clean and simple feels great, but I can sure tell when I have eaten something else, like at a restaurant or church dinner. Generally I lay awake and can't get to sleep due to increased heartrate. So if I had to start eating my stash, I'm wondering how my body would adjust.

You can can your own. That's actually best, especially when dealing with meat, sauces, etc.
If you don't garden, or you get a small/failed crop, get organic (or at least non-GMO) produce relatively cheap when it's in season and can, dehydrate, freeze-dry, or freeze :smile
Some national chain grocery stores have some or a lot of organic products
Local stores often have local organic produce (in season)
Farmers' markets and roadside stands
Local farmers/ranchers/butchers for less expensive, grass-fed beef, etc.

The 365 (Whole Foods house brand) is usually good and not horribly expensive. The organic canned peaches and organic cinnamon applesauce are really good :smile
Lucini organic tomato sauces and organic olive oils are excellent, but pricey :smile
Fresh Thyme house organic items are usually good. The organic red wine vinegar is cheap and great on salads and in recipes :smile

Organic and non-gmo spices and herbs are your friends :smile

Local stores often have local organic produce (in season)
Farmers' markets and roadside stands
 

Jan51

Well-Known Member
You can can your own. That's actually best, especially when dealing with meat, sauces, etc.
If you don't garden, or you get a small/failed crop, get organic (or at least non-GMO) produce relatively cheap when it's in season and can, dehydrate, freeze-dry, or freeze :smile
Some national chain grocery stores have some or a lot of organic products
Local stores often have local organic produce (in season)
Farmers' markets and roadside stands
Local farmers/ranchers/butchers for less expensive, grass-fed beef, etc.

The 365 (Whole Foods house brand) is usually good and not horribly expensive. The organic canned peaches and organic cinnamon applesauce are really good :smile
Lucini organic tomato sauces and organic olive oils are excellent, but pricey :smile
Fresh Thyme house organic items are usually good. The organic red wine vinegar is cheap and great on salads and in recipes :smile

Organic and non-gmo spices and herbs are your friends :smile

Local stores often have local organic produce (in season)
Farmers' markets and roadside stands
I used to freeze back when I gardened and had a big upright freezer, now I only have space for a 5 cu ft, which is full of local grassfed beef. I used to can fruit and tomatoes but always living in a small house and not having insulated outdoor storage, there is no place anymore to store canning jars. Much of my indoor storage space is for water. I mostly eat salad veggies and eggs, which don't store, and meat (which I have) and homemade bread (I have lots of flour).
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
I used to freeze back when I gardened and had a big upright freezer, now I only have space for a 5 cu ft, which is full of local grassfed beef. I used to can fruit and tomatoes but always living in a small house and not having insulated outdoor storage, there is no place anymore to store canning jars. Much of my indoor storage space is for water. I mostly eat salad veggies and eggs, which don't store, and meat (which I have) and homemade bread (I have lots of flour).

Under your bed?

Bottom of a closet and put a piece(s) of plywood over top for the "floor?" If you anchor/suspend/support the floor, the boxes of jars (full or otherwise) can be slid in and out without disturbing or having to move anything above them on the "floor"

Extra shelving at the top or side of a closet? Maybe have to be shallow, with only one jar deep. Bungee or truck rubber straps can be used to prevent jars from jumping off the shelves. Maybe inside the wall(s) inside the closet?

Grandma used to have very shallow shelves along side of the basement steps and a small shelf over the basement steps. She canned enough that she always had a year's worth of stuff on these shelves. The shelves might have been built into the wall, and if so, would have only been 3 1/2 inches deep (width of 2 x 4).

Shelves in a hallway (pull off the paneling or drywall and build into the wall). Sheet paneling can be fastened back into place and your stash is hidden from view. If you want to be able to access frequently, hidden piano hinges can be used with the paneling and hidden catches/latches to keep things out of view and nice looking.

(Some) half pints will store under (some) kitchen cabinets (open the facing for the kick space and put the cartons with full or empty jars under the cabinets) Kitchen must be absolutely dry for this. Damp rid could be helpful. Better if you're using the plastic Tatletale lids, though.

Inside basement or second story steps?

On the landing at the top of the steps? I used to stack cases at the top of the stairs. Everything was pints, half pints, and half cups, so not deep, but a lot of jars in two stacks side-by-side, about 5 feet tall. A tablecloth draped over them or a curtain would have made it look nicer.

Shelve(s) in your furnace room/basement/storm shelter/root cellar?

Attics, crawl spaces, garages, etc. are only OK for this if climate controlled enough to avoid freezing or damaging heat.
 

ChildofLight

Well-Known Member
Under your bed?

Bottom of a closet and put a piece(s) of plywood over top for the "floor?" If you anchor/suspend/support the floor, the boxes of jars (full or otherwise) can be slid in and out without disturbing or having to move anything above them on the "floor"

Extra shelving at the top or side of a closet? Maybe have to be shallow, with only one jar deep. Bungee or truck rubber straps can be used to prevent jars from jumping off the shelves. Maybe inside the wall(s) inside the closet?

Grandma used to have very shallow shelves along side of the basement steps and a small shelf over the basement steps. She canned enough that she always had a year's worth of stuff on these shelves. The shelves might have been built into the wall, and if so, would have only been 3 1/2 inches deep (width of 2 x 4).

Shelves in a hallway (pull off the paneling or drywall and build into the wall). Sheet paneling can be fastened back into place and your stash is hidden from view. If you want to be able to access frequently, hidden piano hinges can be used with the paneling and hidden catches/latches to keep things out of view and nice looking.

(Some) half pints will store under (some) kitchen cabinets (open the facing for the kick space and put the cartons with full or empty jars under the cabinets) Kitchen must be absolutely dry for this. Damp rid could be helpful. Better if you're using the plastic Tatletale lids, though.

Inside basement or second story steps?

On the landing at the top of the steps? I used to stack cases at the top of the stairs. Everything was pints, half pints, and half cups, so not deep, but a lot of jars in two stacks side-by-side, about 5 feet tall. A tablecloth draped over them or a curtain would have made it look nicer.

Shelve(s) in your furnace room/basement/storm shelter/root cellar?

Attics, crawl spaces, garages, etc. are only OK for this if climate controlled enough to avoid freezing or damaging heat.
Don’t forget to hide a Bible here and there also just in case.
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
Organic applesauce with CINNAMON is up another $0.10 a jar :mad

I haven't purchased applesauce in a good while but back when I used to stock it some of the family members would just sprinkle a little cinnamon on it... and my wife would dump a load of cinnamon on it because that's the way she liked it. I didn't buy it with cinnamon already in it because some of the family members didn't want the cinnamon flavor.
 

Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
nor deprives other people

I've never considered the idea of depriving other people when purchasing supplies, but then I think I do things a lot differently than the vast majority when it comes to making purchases. I do expect the marketplace to provide an adequate amount of what people want and need. Over the course of my life investment income was my main source of income and it was anything but regular income. I've gone years without a payday and then make years worth of income all at once. I'm not a trader, but a long term investor (those types still exist).

In the USA the majority of individuals/families have little savings and their spending is structured around their paydays. I see this when I go to a store and notice most of the parking places are full and then realize it's the 15th or 30th of the month. I see people pushing around carts full to the brim. It's interesting to me because if I had lived like that I'd of never known financial independence. Life costs a lot more when you fill your cart every payday, rather than shop sales and have the means to purchase things when they're discounted.

Before COVID hit I had a full supply of paper products like napkins, toilet paper, paper towels... and when I say full supply I'm talking a full supply, not an extra package or two of 4 rolls... I didn't stock up on those things so I'd be prepared for scarcity, I stocked up because I got the stuff discounted, and the better the discount, the more I buy. So when COVID hit and I saw the empty shelves, if there was a package of toilet paper I didn't leave it so someone else could have it, I left it because I didn't need it and it wasn't on sale. On the flip side of the coin during the empty shelves of COVID, if there were cleaning supplies that I normally use on the shelf (which was rare up here), I'd stock up because I needed it. I have enough to worry about without considering whether or not everybody in town has enough cleaning supplies... I'll let others manage their own needs.

Normally I keep one backup jar of those pickled yellow chili peppers. Yesterday I purchased an extra backup just to ensure I don't run out. Since I eat a couple of those chili peppers with each of my burgers, they're kind of important to me. And I have enough of my favorite hot sauce "El Yucateco Chili Habanero" to last for a few years... or at least I think it will. I'm using more and more of the stuff. At a restaurant in North Carolina they brought me a full bottle of that stuff and by the time I finished my meal it was only about 1/3 full :).

When my kids were little, there were certain things they'd eat large quantities of so I'd end up with a large amount of those items in the pantry. Then their eating habits would change on a dime and certain things stopped getting consumed. What to do? There was a family about a mile from me that had around 9 kids and they were income challenged. I'd talk to the dad and tell him he'd be doing me a favor to take such and such off my hands since I had so much of it. I gave them a lot of food over the years. It's interesting how we can be going through a certain product like crazy, and then people just stop eating it... I don't buy cereal now but when the kids were growing up I'd have a ton of it in the pantry. I always aimed to get it for a dollar or less per pound and was usually successful, no matter how high the regular prices went up and how small the boxes became. People don't realize that you can save a couple thousand per mouth to feed per year quite easily by shopping sales and consuming the things that you can get at good sale prices.

So, I've never had the thought of depriving someone else by buying something, but kudos to those who do have those thought. It is kind.
 

Lynn

Longing for Home
Organic applesauce with CINNAMON is up another $0.10 a jar :mad
Ghoti, I usually just add cinnamon to what I'm serving so that I can be sure it's good quality. I don't trust the food companies to use the cinnamon I prefer, Ceylon cinnamon. You can read about the various kinds online, but I've read that Ceylon is better.
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
Ghoti, I usually just add cinnamon to what I'm serving so that I can be sure it's good quality. I don't trust the food companies to use the cinnamon I prefer, Ceylon cinnamon. You can read about the various kinds online, but I've read that Ceylon is better.

The 365 actually has enough CINNAMON in it that it's good, and it's organic because the whole product is labeled organic :smile
I dislike Ceylon CINNAMON, so I'm glad it's the Vietnamese CINNAMON used in the applesauce :smile
Yeah, I know different health benefits/effects of different CINNAMONS (Ceylon is considered to have more/greater health benefits by many, but some of the research only looked at Ceylon and didn't actually compare it to other types).

The CINNAMON I purchase separately is organic and not irradiated. 5 percent oil CINNAMON oil. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . .
 

Lynn

Longing for Home
The CINNAMON I purchase separately is organic and not irradiated. 5 percent oil CINNAMON oil. Mmmmmm
Thanks for the info. I've never purchased cinnamon oil. I'm sure I'd like it. Vietnamese cinnamon is very good, too.
My dh & I both have Rx controlled hypertension, so I love to add cinnamon whenever I can. Hot cereal is a good food to add cinnamon, so we eat a lot of that.
 

heisable2

Well-Known Member
I used to freeze back when I gardened and had a big upright freezer, now I only have space for a 5 cu ft, which is full of local grassfed beef. I used to can fruit and tomatoes but always living in a small house and not having insulated outdoor storage, there is no place anymore to store canning jars. Much of my indoor storage space is for water. I mostly eat salad veggies and eggs, which don't store, and meat (which I have) and homemade bread (I have lots of flour).
If you have space under your bed use some of those storage containers that have little wheels that you can put stuff in and we go back under your bed. Or find containers that are not really high without wheels and they work just as well. Currently I use the containers to put my Christmas decorations. But if I run out of room under the bed just may be another source of storage. My little dog may not like it because that's what she likes to go hide but too bad. That's just the way the world turns these days.
 

heisable2

Well-Known Member
I used to freeze back when I gardened and had a big upright freezer, now I only have space for a 5 cu ft, which is full of local grassfed beef. I used to can fruit and tomatoes but always living in a small house and not having insulated outdoor storage, there is no place anymore to store canning jars. Much of my indoor storage space is for water. I mostly eat salad veggies and eggs, which don't store, and meat (which I have) and homemade bread (I have lots of flour).
If you have space under your bed use some of those storage containers that have little wheels that you can put stuff in and wheel back under your bed. Or find containers that are not really high without wheels and they work just as well. Currently I use the containers to put my Christmas decorations. But if I run out of storage room, under the bed just may be another source of storage. My little dog may not like it because that's what she likes to go hide but too bad. That's just the way the world is
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
Thanks for the info. I've never purchased cinnamon oil. I'm sure I'd like it. Vietnamese cinnamon is very good, too.
My dh & I both have Rx controlled hypertension, so I love to add cinnamon whenever I can. Hot cereal is a good food to add cinnamon, so we eat a lot of that.
The Frontier organic Vietnamese CINNAMON is 5 percent oil. Not oil separately.
 
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