IRS Hiring Spree

[GEOINTAnalyst]

The Democrats' new reconciliation bill isn't just going to be the largest-ever expansion of a government agency. It's going to be the largest expansion of the domestic police state in American history. Only a statist could believe that a federal government, which already collects $4.1 trillion every year -- or $12,300 for every citizen -- supposedly needs 80 battalions of new IRS cops.

The average American has less reason to be concerned about cops with guns -- though the IRS is looking for special agents who can "carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force, if necessary" -- than they do bureaucrats armed with pens who are authorized to sift through their lives. If you pay your taxes you have nothing to worry about, Democrats claim. But most law-abiding citizens know they have something to fear from a state agency that doesn't concern itself with your due process, has no regard for your privacy and is empowered to target anyone it wants without any genuine oversight.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/20...iggest-expansion-police-state-david-harsanyi/

 

[fl2007rn]

If you are audited it is a big deal and can be expensive, stressful, and time consuming. If you are a small company/individual you may be able to handle the audit process yourseld but if you have a medium size company you will most likely have to hire an accountant to do the work. I also think this is a way for the IRS to harass conservatives, churches, and gun owners. This is all very scary.

 

[Andiamo]

I'm not sure what to believe about all of this IRS stuff. I've been attempting to do some fact checking, which is about impossible among all of the articles out there. I really think there may be some truth on both sides of this thing. One supposed fact from the Democrats that rings true to me is that part of the reason why 87,000 agents were budgeted for, is because 50,000 agents are projected to leave within a certain number of years.

And the very idea of an army of highly trained, gun-toting IRS agents, methodically going door to door, is laughable, considering that they can't even seem to improve the klunky IRS website. I have no doubt that a few agents would legitimately need to be armed for certain situations. Even some of our Code Enforcement officers face grave danger when going to a person's property. Heck, the USPS won't even go into certain areas anymore.

Although I absolutely do not trust the government one iota and don't believe the IRS has the American taxpayers' best interest in mind.....I do wonder if we are being played by the GOP to incite fear. I don't put it past them at all, as all politics are filthy dirty.

So my response to this is that I refuse to be afraid about it. True, untrue, partially true, whatever....God has my back. If it's all true, then God has certainly allowed their success for a reason, for His purposes. That's a fact I can believe is 100% true. So I'm not going to waste any more of my God-given time and energy on this.

 

[Tall Timbers]

My personal experience with the IRS has been good. They've made a few mistakes over the years and I've made a few mistakes. They fixed theirs and I fixed mine, all amicably. I'd hate to see the IRS become nothing more than a tool of the deep state to terrorize America's citizenry. Insofar as their mission, I think they've done a pretty decent job of it. That isn't meant to imply that I like paying taxes...

 

[pixelpusher]

87000 is still small compared to 300+ million. Now if they were hiring 3M new agents...


Agree, both sides playing off fears, lol. Lefties be like "CLIMATE CHANGE WERE ALL GONNA DIE", to which the righties reply "Hogwash." Then they hire some feds and all the righties are like "THE TAXMAN COMETH WERE ALL GONNA DIE", and the lefties say "You guys are stho silly!".

Best just not to be skeered, then it's harder to get played.

ETA: Oh, and keep your books in order, just in case.

 

[Baby Yoda]

ethodically going door to door, is laughable, considering that they can't even seem to improve the klunky IRS website.

That's what Stuart Varney said -- it will be years before they can get their computers up to par to do all this.

 

[Andiamo]

My personal experience with the IRS has been good. They've made a few mistakes over the years and I've made a few mistakes. They fixed theirs and I fixed mine, all amicably. I'd hate to see the IRS become nothing more than a tool of the deep state to terrorize America's citizenry. Insofar as their mission, I think they've done a pretty decent job of it. That isn't meant to imply that I like paying taxes...

We didn't know about a tax credit years back under Obama, and the IRS agent corrected our return, giving us the credit. I almost died of shock That was my good experience....along with a few times I had to call the helpline at tax time.
Bad experience was when I was in my 20's...in an abusive marriage where I was completely controlled, and they went after me for the unpaid taxes. I had no idea that he didn't even file. Then the agents at the local office gave me a hard time, saying "Why didn't you file? how could you not know?" In front of the others there who were in the line. Ugh. There are new protections for situations like this now....I think it's called "The Innocent Spouse Program."

 

[Andiamo]

That's what Stuart Varney said -- it will be years before they can get their computers up to par to do all this.

Or maybe all they (and the whole world) will need is one massive, beast-ly computer
Not a worry of mine!

 

[depserv]

One supposed fact from the Democrats that rings true to me is that part of the reason why 87,000 agents were budgeted for, is because 50,000 agents are projected to leave within a certain number of years.

I would assume that there are already provisions in federal law to replace those who leave, so do we know for certain that these 87,000 new agents will be replacing that 50,000 and only be adding 37,000 new positions, or will the entire 87,000 be in addition to the number we currently have? This is important to look into given how much the criminal gang in Washington has lied to us. But in the end even if the increase really is only 37,000, that's still a massive increase.

I think there are good IRS agents, but this administration, like others before it but even more so, has proven to be dedicated to waging war on loyal Americans. Look what they do with the FBI; do you really think they won't use the IRS to attack their political opponents? They did that when Obama was president and they got away with it.

As far as them being armed and dangerous, I would assume that most of them would be accountant types looking for ways to squeeze every penny they can out of us, and at least some of them, maybe many, will be looking for ways to go after loyal Americans, and all of these office geeks will be supported by a small army of well-armed thugs.

Do you know why the Pelosi gang kept demanding to look at Trump's tax returns? They wanted to go on a fishing expedition; tax codes are complicated enough that they can find excuses to bring charges against those they want to harass, and we can expect them to do this even if many or even most of the new agents are not political war operatives. What they do to President Trump they can do to any of us.

As far as the legendary incompetence of federal bureaucracies, this is because they don't care how well they do their job and have no reason to. But when it comes to doing what they want to do as far as waging economic war on loyal Americans, do not expect that same incompetence.

Make no mistake about it my friend: this congress is no friend of America. This pending bill is just another in a long line of thefts of wealth from the American people and an expansion of a government that has already become a massive parasite. This expansion is not taking place in a vacuum; look at it in the context of everything else this gang has been up to.

Any legitimate government would be focused on reducing the size and power of the parasite the federal government has become, and trying to cut spending and pay down the nearly 30 trillion dollar debt instead of increasing it. This expansion is not being done because it's good for America; it's being done because those in power always want more power, until their power is absolute. History should make this clear, and if it doesn't, the present should clarify it further.

This bill reminds me of one of the first lines in Thomas Paine's essay Common Sense, which is given much credit for inspiring Americans to fight for their independence: "Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one; for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries by a government, which we might expect in a country without government, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer." [the italics are part of the original text]

 

[Amethyst]

I think there are good IRS agents, but this administration, like others before it but even more so, has proven to be dedicated to waging war on loyal Americans. Look what they do with the FBI; do you really think they won't use the IRS to attack their political opponents? They did that when Obama was president and they got away with it.

Absolutely. No doubt.

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

We didn't know about a tax credit years back under Obama, and the IRS agent corrected our return, giving us the credit. I almost died of shock That was my good experience....along with a few times I had to call the helpline at tax time.
Bad experience was when I was in my 20's...in an abusive marriage where I was completely controlled, and they went after me for the unpaid taxes. I had no idea that he didn't even file. Then the agents at the local office gave me a hard time, saying "Why didn't you file? how could you not know?" In front of the others there who were in the line. Ugh. There are new protections for situations like this now....I think it's called "The Innocent Spouse Program."

Innocent spouse program and injured spouse program are helpful if one qualifies. However, there are situations in which the innocent or injured spouse can't qualify, even though he or she didn't intentionally or knowingly do anything wrong. The end result can be a decade or more of hell at the hands of the IRS, credit reporting bureaus, etc., even if the situation remains on the civil, as opposed to criminal, side.

Since I'm not a lawyer, I'm not going to post any more about the programs, etc. IMHO, it's important to get proper representation, or at least a consult, if one is audited, and for sure if one is read his or her rights.

 

[JustLikeHeaven]

Or maybe all they (and the whole world) will need is one massive, beast-ly computer
Not a worry of mine!

Wink, wink..nudge, nudge

 

[Ghoti Ichthus]

I think there are good IRS agents,

I know many good ones, who are honest, impartial, and follow the law.