Intentional communities

dseno

Well-Known Member
Hello everyone. I am currently reading a book and it mentions quite a few of these types of living situations. JPUSA, bruderhof and simple way, Reba house are some of those mentioned.

Does anyone on the forums have any experience with any of these types of ecosystems? Anyone ever stayed there?

I am not considering going there or anything but I am curious about what the lifestyle and beliefs are like. Anyhoo.
 

Chris

Administrator
Staff member
I've never heard of them, but just looked them up a little bit before work.

"We are a community of Christians who, inspired by the early church, share all our money and possessions. We believe that God wants to transform our world, here and now. This takes a life of discipleship and commitment; when you truly love your neighbor as yourself, peace and justice become a reality."

Sounds good at first, but I'm sure Jim Jones sounded good as well. :eek

"None of us owns anything personally and everything we need — food, housing, health care — is provided for us. We believe our way of life is a compelling answer to society’s problems, with its emphasis on wealth and self and its resulting isolation, conflict, and inequality."

I'm already suspicious. Where are they getting their money from? Who is behind this? :scratch
 

Jaybird

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Sounds like a bunch of Marxists/Communists to me. These are typically "cults" with leaders who tell their followers to let go of all their worldly possessions to become more spiritual. The only problem is that they wind up donating all of their worldly possessions and money to the leader who becomes wealthy and bosses everyone around. Think of the Branch Davidians and David Koresh. Just a bunch of nuts if you ask me. How anyone can fall for this is beyond me.
 

Follower

Active Member
Sounds like a bunch of Marxists/Communists to me. These are typically "cults" with leaders who tell their followers to let go of all their worldly possessions to become more spiritual. The only problem is that they wind up donating all of their worldly possessions and money to the leader who becomes wealthy and bosses everyone around. Think of the Branch Davidians and David Koresh. Just a bunch of nuts if you ask me. How anyone can fall for this is beyond me.
I think a big part of what leads so many to fall for this kind of thing is the breakdown of all the pillars of civilization in the past 75 years. The Communists' successful war on the family, male/female roles, and every other aspect of a law abiding nation has left people adrift. When society goes to extremes to reject those building blocks (for example: as some of the 1960's generation did with their 'tune in, turn on, and drop out' mantra) then some people who are disillusioned will gravitate to reactionary groups that seem to offer some semblance of order. I have observed people make such decisions over my lifetime, it is as if they jumped from the Satanic frying pan (destruction of the family and morals) into the fire (cults/communes and other aberrant groups). When we reject truth and absolutes it creates a vacuum which cult leaders are more than happy to take advantage of.
 

Everlasting Life

Through Faith in Jesus
Early on in America's history (1620) as pilgrims were coming over and settling, there was a group under William Bradford that had a community similar to what's being described in this thread. They were Christians and probably well intentioned (some today would call this a more socialist approach). What happened was moral, work ethic and output started to deteriorate so much so that the whole program was disbanded. Once people independently started working their farms, things improved significantly individually and community wide. I suspect the idea of making sure to be of help to one's neighbor if needed was still in play.

What Brandford learned was that Socialism destroyed initiative. With everyone receiving the same pay for their work no matter how hard or little they worked, everyone put out their least effort...there just wasn't a carrot at the end of the stick for them.

Then, socialism fostered irresponsibility. Some of the younger men, who did much of the work, resented being paid the same as the older men and as a result they started to slack off from their work, since effort wasn't really rewarded. Others 'called in sick' so to speak....they'd get paid anyways, they reasoned. As a result innovation and labor was greatly decreased. Interestingly, hopelessness took hold.

Of course this gave way to fighting amongst themselves, leading to more hopelessness and discouragement.

Bradford concluded that this type of program didn't work with human beings, created by God. In scripture one can read how God rewards individuals for their labor and good works and this actually is a positive for human living and communities.

After praying and discussing the situation with one another, it was determined that a change had to happen. Each family received their own land to work and use for their own families and the change was immediate! People worked much harder because they knew they could keep the fruit of their own work to use as they needed or wanted. There wasn't as much 'being out sick' either. This in turn began to grow trade and a thriving community as each family grew more than what they needed and began to trade with one another and Indians. The colony finally began to prosper with the implementation of a more free and entrepreneurial system.

Bradford had wrote of this situation saying:

This community [socialism] was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to their benefit and comfort … and showed the vanity of that conceit of Plato’s, and applauded by some of later times, that the taking away of property and bringing in community into a commonwealth would make them happy and flourishing; as if they were wiser than God” (Hyatt, The Pilgrims, 53-54).

There's plenty of witnesses from Cuba and now unfortunately Venezuela today that can attest to the destruction of socialism in their once thriving countries. They are concerned about what some are seeing starting to happen in America and are warning of it's destruction.

It would be good for Americans to really take a look at past and recent history on this subject and instead of repeating it, learn from it. :sad
 

Jaybird

Well-Known Member
There is a famous saying from a Spanish poet/novelist/philosopher George Santayana:

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."​

This is why they try to erase the past and tear down monuments. They don't teach history anymore in school. The curricula is Marxist indoctrination. This ideology is from the pit of Hell.
 

dseno

Well-Known Member
These kinds of communities have always existed but I do imagine with the crumbling of economic systems all over the world I wonder if these communities might offer a place of respite and hope for many. I wouldn't mind just working with my hands, seeking God, and loving others personally.
 

Everlasting Life

Through Faith in Jesus
In our area there are some Christian gardening communities, however it's just gardening together and seems to be a positive situation. I believe that people tend to their own assigned plots but help each other out.
 
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