How Good Do You Have To Be?

[Chris]

How Good Do You Have To Be?
By Mike Gendron

As we share the Gospel with people we meet, we often ask the question, “Do you know where you will spend eternity?” The most frequent response is, “I hope I am good enough for heaven.” People who respond this way do not know the Bible and are convinced that God will grade their lives on a scale. They have a foolish notion that as long as their good deeds outweigh their bad deeds, God will let them into His heaven. That is the furthest thing from the truth because no one can ever be good enough. God’s standard is beyond human achievement because He requires perfect righteousness for entrance into heaven. Furthermore, God does not save us because of any righteous deeds we have done (Titus 3:5). We can never boast about our salvation because it is purely of God’s grace, not of works or anything else we can do (Eph. 2:8-9).

Christ’s Righteousness Is Man’s Only Hope​

Since our Holy God created us, He has the right to set the standard by which we are to live. It was God’s perfect man and man’s perfect God who declared, “You are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect” (Mat. 5:48). Clearly, no one can meet that standard because “whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all” (James 2:10). When man realizes he is hopeless to obey the law perfectly, the law may become his tutor to lead him to Christ (Gal. 3:24). The Lord Jesus Christ is man’s only hope to all who have faith in Him. Those who believe His Gospel are credited with His perfect righteousness (Rom. 3:22). In the Gospel, the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith so that the righteous man shall live by faith (Rom. 1:17).

Paul Exchanged His Righteousness for Christ’s​

If anyone had reason to boast in his righteousness, it was the apostle Paul. He was a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee; as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless. He wrote, “I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith” (Phil. 3:8-9). Paul knew his righteousness would fall short of God’s perfect standard.

Zeal for God Without His Righteousness​

Paul’s fervent desire and prayer to God was for the salvation of his fellow Israelites. They had a zeal for God, but they did not know about His righteousness. Out of ignorance, they were trying to establish their own righteousness. They did not know that Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes (Rom. 10:1-4). Tragically, there are many who are on the wide road to destruction because they are trusting what they must DO, instead of what Christ has DONE. From the cradle to the cross, Jesus lived in perfect obedience to the law so that His righteousness can be credited to those who trust Him (Rom. 5:17).

Man’s Sin Exchanged for Christ’s Righteousness​

The greatest exchange in human history took place at Calvary’s cross for everyone who repents and believes God’s Gospel. It was at the cross that God made Jesus who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him (2 Cor. 5:21). Our great God and Savior took all of our guilt, shame, sin and punishment, and in exchange, He gave every believer His perfect righteousness. To Him be all glory, honor and praise, now and forever!

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[JoyJoyJoy]

Furthermore, God does not save us because of any righteous deeds we have done (Titus 3:5). We can never boast about our salvation because it is purely of God’s grace, not of works or anything else we can do (Eph. 2:8-9).

Amen and Hallelujah!!
Thank God that He keeps me saved!! I am wretched.

 

[lightofmylife]

I have a cousin who watches Jimmy Swaggart and believes you can lose your salvation. I told her no man can pluck you out of Gods hand. She said no but God can. I told her you are sealed until the day of redemption. I think she has losing your salvation and losing your fellowship confused.

 

[soundingthealarm]

I have a cousin who watches Jimmy Swaggart and believes you can lose your salvation. I told her no man can pluck you out of Gods hand. She said no but God can. I told her you are sealed until the day of redemption. I think she has losing your salvation and losing your fellowship confused.

Proverbs 16:25
There is a way that seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death.

SELF Righteousness is the biggest deception BELIEVERS face imho. Paul would ask your cousin "who has bewitched you?"

So thankful that IT IS FINISHED!!!

 

[lightofmylife]

Proverbs 16:25
There is a way that seems right to a man,
But its end is the way of death.

SELF Righteousness is the biggest deception BELIEVERS face imho. Paul would ask your cousin "who has bewitched you?"

So thankful that IT IS FINISHED!!!

I believe that false teachers who do not have Gods Spirit who are believing lies of the are deceiving a lot of people. It is the spirit of confusion, and that is the devils plan so people don't get saved.

 

[ItIsFinished!]

So thankful that IT IS FINISHED!!!

LOVE those three amazing words from our precious, magnificent Lord and SAVIOUR
Jesus the Christ!

 

[Chris]

I do believe we can stop believing, and reject Christ, and fall from grace (and salvation). There are scriptures that seem to suggest that. Whether it be through rejecting the gospel of salvation (trusting in yourself), or rejecting God’s chastening and choosing to follow sin once again. But I will start with the verse from Ephesians that you refer to. And I will also mention that although it says no man can pluck us out of God’s hand, it doesn’t say we can’t walk away.

Ephesians 4:30 And grieue not the holy Sririt of God, whereby yee are sealed vnto the day of redemption.

Does that say we are sealed unto the day of redemption, IF we do not grieve the Holy Spirit?

And for the other scriptures:

Just a reminder, we are a OSAS site. We do not teach that people who are genuinely saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit can lose their salvation. They can fall out of fellowship, but not out of salvation. When we are genuinely saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit, God has placed His seal of ownership on us and no one and nobody can take us from His hand.

This is an important article below that you need to read.

https://www.raptureforums.com/once-saved-always-saved/osas-the-whole-story/

OSAS, The Whole Story
By Jack Kelley

If you follow our “Ask a Bible Teacher” feature, you know how many comments I’ve received lately that question the Doctrine of Eternal Security (aka Once Saved Always Saved or OSAS). Based on their content I’ve concluded that many people neither understand OSAS nor have they considered the alternative.

Let’s Begin At The Beginning​

It’s time to set the record straight once and for all. What does it take to be saved? I think the best answer to that question is the one the Lord gave in John 6:28-29.

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

Here was a perfect opportunity to list all the things we have to do to meet God’s requirements. Jesus could have rattled off the 10 commandments. He could have repeated the Sermon on the Mount. He could have listed any number of admonitions and restrictions necessary to achieve and maintain God’s expectations of us. But what did He say? “Believe in the one He has sent.” Period. It was a repeat of John 3:16, confirming that belief in the Son is the one and only requirement for salvation.

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

A few verses later in John 6:38-40 He said that this wasn’t just His idea, as if that wouldn’t be enough, but that His Father was in complete agreement. And not only would our belief suffice to provide us with eternal life, but that it was God’s will that Jesus lose none of those who believe. You and I have been known to disobey God’s will, but has Jesus ever done so? And isn’t He the one who’s been charged with the responsibility for keeping us? Let’s read it.

“For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.” (John 6:38-40)

Just in case we missed this promise, Jesus made it again even more clearly in John 10:28-30. “I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.” The Father and the Son have both accepted responsibility for our security. Once we’re in Their hands, no one can get us away.

I have purposely only used words straight from the Lord’s own mouth to make this case because I can already hear the choruses of “Yes Buts” mounting as those who refuse to take them at face value get ready to trot out their favorite verses denying Eternal Security, misinterpreted though they are.

The one characteristic of God’s that gives us the most comfort is knowing that He can’t lie or change His mind or contradict Himself. He can’t say something in one place and then say something entirely different in another. He’s consistent. If He says that we’re saved solely because of our belief in Him, and that He’s accepted responsibility for keeping us so, then we can count on that. As we’ll see, anything in the Bible that seems to contradict these simple, straightforward statements has to be talking about something else.

But first, since He puts so much emphasis on belief, let’s take a closer look at that word. What does He mean when He says “believe”? It must be more than just a casual thing because reliable statistics show, for example, that 85% of those who come forward to “receive the Lord” at a crusade or other evangelistic outreach never form any connection with a church or Bible Study or in any other way demonstrate a relationship with the Lord afterward.

And Jesus spoke of the seed that fell on rocky places. He said, “This is the man who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. But since he has no root, he lasts only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, he quickly falls away.” (Matt. 13:20-21) If these people were saved and then fell away, all His promises above have been broken. There must be more. So what does it mean to believe?

The Greek word for believe is “pistis.” According the Strong’s Concordance, it’s a “conviction or belief respecting man’s relationship to God and divine things, generally with the included idea of trust and holy fervor born of faith and joined with it.” In connection with the Lord Jesus, it means “a strong and welcome conviction or belief that Jesus is the Messiah, through whom we obtain eternal salvation in the kingdom of God.”

The Apostle Paul gave us valuable insight into the nature of this belief. He wrote, If you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. (Romans 10:9-10)

This isn’t just some intellectual thing that carries us away on the words of a captivating speaker, only to leave us flat a short time later. It’s a conviction that’s formed deep in our heart, the realization that Jesus is not just a man. He’s the Lord Himself, and He took upon Himself the penalty due us for our sins, which is death. And to prove that God counted His death as sufficient, He raised Jesus from the dead to be seated beside Him in the Heavenly realms. (Ephes. 1:20) Since God can’t dwell in the presence of sin, and since the wages of sin is death, every one of our sins has to have been paid for. If even one remained unpaid, Jesus would still be in the grave. We have to believe that Jesus rose from the grave in order to believe that we will.

It’s that kind of belief that gets you saved and keeps you that way, because it sets in motion a chain of events that’s irreversible. There are four links in this chain. You supply two and the Lord supplies two. You hear and believe, and the Lord marks and guarantees.

And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory. (Ephesians 1:13-14)

The word translated “deposit” is a legal term. Today we would say Earnest Money. It’s a down payment that constitutes a legal obligation to follow through with the purchase. If you’ve ever bought any Real Estate, you’re familiar with the term. If not, here’s another example. It’s like we’ve been put on “lay away.” The price has been paid and we’ve been taken off the display shelf until the one who has purchased us returns to claim us. In the mean time we cannot be bought by anyone else, because we legally belong to the one who has paid the deposit. “You are not your own,” we’re told. “You were bought with a price.” (1 Cor. 6:19-20)

All of this happened at our first moment of belief, before we could do anything to either earn or lose our position. The man on the cross beside Jesus is the prototype for this transaction. Having done something bad enough to get himself executed, he was promised a place in Paradise solely because he believed in his heart that Jesus was the Lord of a coming Kingdom.

Paul made it even clearer when he repeated this incredible promise in 2 Cor. 1:21-22. Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

This time He removed all doubt as to just Who it is that keeps us saved. Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. What could be clearer?

Union And Fellowship​

If the Doctrine of Eternal Security is so clear then why all the disagreement about it? I’ve found two reasons. The first is the two-sided nature of our relationship with the Lord. I call one side Union. It’s eternal and unconditional, based only on our belief. Ephesians 1:13-14 describes our Union with God, sealed and guaranteed. Once we’re born again, we can’t become unborn. It’s good forever. The Holy Spirit is sealed within us from our first moment of belief until the day of redemption.

I call the other side Fellowship and it’s a bit more complicated. Fellowship is that state of continual closeness to God that enables Him to bless us in our daily lives, by making things happen for us and protecting us from attack. It’s like He’s teamed up with us to give us a supernatural advantage. Fellowship is defined by 1 John 1:5-9 as being both Earthly and conditional upon our behavior. Even as believers, as long as we’re here on Earth we’ll continue to sin. Since God can’t abide in the presence of sin, our unconfessed sins interrupt our Earthly relationship with Him and may deprive us of blessings we might have otherwise received. We’re still saved in the eternal sense, but out of Fellowship here on Earth.

When we’re out of Fellowship, we’re legitimate targets for our enemy’s mischief, just like Job was. His sin was self-righteousness and because he wouldn’t confess it, God had to let Satan afflict him in order to bring him to his senses. For a New Testament illustration, look at the parable of the Prodigal Son. (Luke 15:11-32) Like the younger son, we’ll still belong to our Father’s family, but won’t receive any of its blessings while we’re out of Fellowship. And like both Job and the Prodigal, when we return to our Father and confess our sins, we’re immediately purified from all unrighteousness and restored to Fellowship.

One reason that many Christians live such defeated lives is that having only learned about the Union part of being a believer, they only know that God has forgiven their sins and that they’ll go to be with Him when they die or are Raptured. They don’t realize that they still need to confess every time they sin to stay in Fellowship. And so, being deprived of God’s providence, they may become discouraged and even stop praying and attending church. Other believers, who don’t understand the dual relationship either, look at the mess they’re in and think they must have lost their salvation. Like Job’s friends, they look in God’s Word for confirmation, and by taking verses out of context, believe they have found the proof.

Union and Fellowship are not just New Testament ideas. In the Old Testament, even when Israel was being obedient in thought and action, doing their best to please God, the priests still had to sacrifice a lamb on the altar every morning and every evening for the sins of the people. 1 John 1:9 is the New Testament equivalent of those daily sacrifices for sin. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. It was written for believers who are already saved, but are in danger of being out of Fellowship because of their sins.

The Gift And the Prize​

The other reason people get confused is that there are two types of benefits in Eternity. The first is the free Gift called Salvation that’s given to all who ask in faith irrespective of merit and guarantees our admission into the Kingdom. Ephesians 2:8-9 is the model, saying that salvation is a Gift from God.

The second consists of Heavenly rewards we can earn for the things we do as believers here on Earth. Philippians 3:13-14 are good verses for explaining this. Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. In addition to the Gift, there’s a Prize.

A gift is something given out of love, irrespective of merit, and is never taken back. A prize, on the other hand, is something we qualify for and earn. And if we’re not careful we can lose it. (Rev. 3:11) Paul had already received the Gift of salvation, it was behind him. Now he was focused on winning the Prize as well.

In 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 he explained the difference in greater detail. Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last; but we do it to get a crown that will last forever.

No Olympic athlete was satisfied just to have qualified to participate in the games. Everyone wanted to win the victor’s crown. Likewise, we shouldn’t be satisfied just to have received the Gift of salvation. We must now live our lives as believers in such a way as to win the Prize as well.

The Bible calls some of these prizes crowns, and while the athlete’s crown soon wilted away (it was a wreath of ivy) the crowns believers can win last forever. They’re worth making some sacrifices for. That’s why Paul said, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize. (1 Cor. 9:27) The crowns are identified as the Everlasting Crown (Victory) in 1 Cor 9:25, Crown of the Soul Winner in Phil 4:1 and 1 Thes 2:19, Crown of Righteousness in 2 Tim 4:8, Crown of Life in Jas 1:12 and Rev 2:10, and the Crown of Glory in 1 Peter 5:4.

The difference between the Gift and the Prize is also seen in 1 Cor. 3:12-15. If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man’s work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.

At the judgment of believers, the quality of our work on earth will be tested by fire. Only work that survives the test will bring us a reward. But notice that even if all our work is destroyed in the fire, we’ll still have our salvation. Why? Because it’s a free Gift, given out of love, irrespective of merit.

The Lord mentioned other rewards as well. In Matt. 6:19-21 He advised us, “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”

There are things we can do as believers while here on Earth that will cause deposits to be made to our heavenly account. Some believe that this passage refers to the way we use the money we’re given. Do we use it to enrich ourselves, stacking up possessions that far exceed our needs? Or do we use it to further the work of the Kingdom? Here’s a hint. Our tithe is what we owe to God. It’s what we do with the money we have left that really counts. And with the measure we use, it will be measured to us. (Luke 6:38)

To summarize, in the New Testament there are verses like Ephesians 1:13-14 that talk about Union. There are verses like 1 John 1: 8-9 that talk about Fellowship. There are verses like Ephesians 2:8-9 that talk about the Gift and there are verses like 1 Cor 9:24-27 that talk about the Prize.

Union verses:
The verses that stress belief, explain the permanent nature of our bond with God, and are directed toward eternity are Union verses.

Gift verses:
Those that involve grace and faith are Gift verses.

Fellowship verses:
Those that require work and are directed at the quality of our lives on Earth are Fellowship verses.

Prize verses:
And those that require work and involve eternal rewards are Prize verses.

When you view Scripture from this perspective, all of the apparent contradictions disappear and you no longer have to wonder why God seems to be saying one thing here and something different there. The issue becomes one of correctly identifying the focal point of the particular passage you’re looking at. Determine the context by reading verses around it, and assign it to one of the four categories.

Give Us An Example​

Hebrews 6:4-6 is a passage often cited in opposition to Eternal Security. The entire letter is to Jewish believers who are being enticed back into keeping the Law, so the context is New Covenant vs. Old. And in verse 9 the writer hints that he’s been talking about things that accompany salvation. That tells us that verses 4-6 are not related to salvation but things that accompany it. More importantly the idea that a believer could do something to irretrievably lose his salvation is in direct contradiction to the very clear promise that the Holy Spirit is sealed within us from the very first moment of belief until the day of redemption.

So what could these believers be in danger of falling away from due to their sins? Fellowship. And what could prevent them from being restored? The practice of Old Covenant remedies for sin rather than invoking 1 John 1:9. They’d be relegating the death of the Lord to the same status as that of the twice-daily lamb. The Law was only a shadow of the good things to come, not the realities themselves. Once the Reality appeared, the shadow was no longer effective. And what would be their penalty? Living a defeated life, bearing no fruit, all their works burned in the judgment of 1 Cor. 3. But still saved? Yes. Hebrews 6:4-6 is a Fellowship passage.

Suppose There Is No Security?​

In closing, let’s look at the alternative. What are we faced with? If Hebrews 6:4-6 for example applies to our salvation then if we ever sin after being saved we’ll be lost forever with no way back, because the Lord would have to be crucified all over again to retrieve us. The New Covenant would be worse than the Old, not better. They were condemned for their actions. According to Matt. 5 we’d be condemned for our thoughts. They couldn’t murder. We couldn’t even be angry. They couldn’t commit adultery. We couldn’t even have a lustful thought. Think of it. No anger, ever. No lust, ever. No envy, ever. No idolatry, ever. No favoritism or discrimination, ever. No impure thoughts or deeds of any kind, ever. Is this the Good News, the incomparable riches of His Grace? Did God become man and die the most painful death ever devised only to put His children into an even more untenable position than before? Are we saved by grace only to be placed under the constraints of an even more severely administered law? I can’t believe so.

Some take a more moderate view of this saying that God would never take back the gift of salvation, but that we can return it. To justify this position they have to put words in the Lord’s mouth. When He says in John 10:28, “No one can snatch them out of my hand,” they have to insert the phrase “but us” after “no one”. Same with Romans 8:38-39.

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. They have to insert the phrase “but us” after “in all creation”.

None of this defense of Eternal Security is intended to condone sin. As an indication of our gratitude for the gift of salvation, believers are continually admonished in Scripture to live our lives in a manner pleasing to God. Not to earn or keep it, but to thank the Lord for giving it to us. And to help us do that, the Holy Spirit has come to dwell in us to guide and direct us, and to pray for us. Since the Spirit of God lives in us we are no longer controlled by the sin nature and can choose to please God by the way we live. And even though we do this out of gratitude for the Gift He’s already given, which is Union with Him, He blesses us both here on Earth (Fellowship) and in Eternity (the Prize). Selah.

 

[Chris]

I did not realize that you do not like teaching against OSAS. Thank you for posting that article, and I will try and work my way through it.

I value truth the most, regardless of whether it goes against what I have previously believed or taught. I would hope you would have the same passion for the truth. No one has everything figured out.

What matters the most, is how scripture interprets itself, and not how we interpret scripture.

Again, I will look at that article you posted in your reply.

No problem. Did you read the forum rules before posting? If not, here they are:

https://www.raptureforums.com/forums/threads/board-rules-and-guidelines-for-posting.188752/

We do not compromise on somethings like the pre-trib rapture, OSAS, Grace thru Faith, Jesus is the only way to Heaven, etc.

Those we do not budge on those things and therefore we do not allow teachings and promotions of things that go against those "house rules" as some would call them. You can believe whatever you want, but please do not promote it on the forums per the forum rules that you agreed to when you signed up. The link to the forum rules will help.

Thank you for understanding.

 

[Chris]

If you want me to leave your forums, I will leave. If you do not even want scriptural discussions, again, I will leave. I am after the truth, and what I believe is truth is what I will say. I am open to the possibility of being wrong on issues, but I don’t think it’s healthy to just ban discussions on these issues.

You MUST post within the forum rules. Period. If you can do that, then by all means keep posting. If you can't do that, then you can leave. It's your choice.

What's it going to be?

But I will not argue with you about it. The forum rules are not negotiable.

 

[JoyJoyJoy]

Derek..read over the article Chris posted.
I had never heard of OSAS until I started reading about it on our old site, Rapture Ready.
It seemed to good to be true!! It went against all I had ever been taught.
It took time and much research before it sunk in that OSAS is truly the only way any of us will get to Heaven.
Praise God for Saving Grace.

You can't refute OSAS on this site. But I think you can ask questions. We have some here that seem to understand the deeper meaning of scripture and can help you. Also if you dig around, there are numerous great articles.

 

[Carl]

I came to OSAS from a different perspective. When I was saved I listened to everything on the radio on the 2 Christian stations in the area. That means Copeland, Hagin, and just all of them. The conclusion that I got from hearing all I heard and reading the Bible through was that I was Saved Forever! Why would God bother to save us if He didn't want to keep us and keep us safe?
To this day I can't say that I know all that is going on. I also believed that the Rapture would happen to get us out of the way of the trouble that is coming. No matter what it looks like God is working in our lives for His Reasons. Which may or may not be visable to us.

 

[Andy C]

Why would God bother to save us if He didn't want to keep us and keep us safe?

Amen. Once we believe, scripture shows we are sealed forever with the Holy Spirit.

I like to keep it simple - If we can lose our salvation, that would imply God did not foresee that we would eventually lose our salvation, so the Holy Spirit was sealed inside us by mistake.

 

[Wally]

Can we lose salvation?

No.

Can we be fickle in our faith?
I'm sure if you're honest you'd say yes.

Can we imitate faith?
Sin can imitate a lot.

Can we age and become the most miserable of people as our body fails and leave an impression we never had a relationship with Christ?

satan will use every opportunity to discredit, mock, or blaspheme Christ's finished work, our weakness perhaps being the best weapon he uses.

But God is not mocked. His words do not return empty. There is nothing we can do that saves - or un-saves us.


But there is a place where we pass from being a stranger to being one of His own.

Many at Christmas receive gifts. Sometimes its a birthday or some special occasion, or maybe a random act of generosity when a gift is given.

If it is food, we need to eat it to benefit from it.
If some picture or art work, we display it.
Clothing we wear it - I suppose Ugly sweater day was established to solve this dilemma.
If a tool we use it, a toy we play with it.

The element here is the gift is opened and appreciated through response.

How much more are we to appreciate the Gift of Life, and how much more somber should we be to know the price that was paid for it.

Some may open the gift, fake a thank you and even play with it for a while until they put it away or discard it.
One might believe they never really appreciated the gift. This thought supposes the poor soil where the plant dies in the sun or weeds.


Can we throw away the gift? Can we reclaim it once cast aside?

Will God even allow it?

Faith either takes root or it does not. It grows deep or dies in the drought. Trials do come to Proof or strengthen our faith.

Remember: God knows All. He knows how far we can go. He knows the seasons, the weaknesses, the issues we have day by day.
And He works trials for our good.

He knows the imitators and they will face their own trial designed to weed them out even if it means waiting to harvest time.

He does not make us chose, but He does incredible things to help fortify our choice through the Holy Spirit.

And I believe He does incredible miracles to give us sight, understanding, and even the ability to stand fast in Him.


The True Scotsman argument is a very poor one; [ A true Scotsman would never...., If he did ...., he is not a true Scotsman. ]

But I would propose a different test: Is God able to preserve what is His?
Without a doubt.

Its not about other people, God is able.

Its about you - me - each of us.
Do you believe? Have you opened the Gift? Do you really understand what He did for you?
Do you really appreciate and treasure the Gift Christ gives?

Then live your life in appreciation of Him. And no matter how high or low life gets, trust Him to do all of the rest.