RobinB
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I can definitely believe he'd feel this way.
Here’s the Shocking Reason Why Putin is Invading Ukraine
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GHoe
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"The lesson is “peace through strength.” Only by being tougher than the other guy can you avoid conflict."
This is so true ! I learned it as a Police Officer. In the police world, this is called Command Presence. It is an officer's best friend and in reality its a life saver. As an (ex) officer in an ex-murder capital of the nation, you can't survive if you lack Command Presence.
The thing about command presence is that it also needs to be authentic. If you fake having power it's clear to everyone at the party. Gangsters sense a fraud, whether it be the local neighborhood gangster or a world stage gangster.
I have many for instances but the reality is don't overplay your hand and get called out. Be authentic with your projection of strength and the sooner you project strength in a calm and confident manner, the better off you will be. And in turn, if your goal was to be peaceful, the better off the opposing force will be.
A lack of the above abilities, enables and emboldens the opposing force to act. At that point you have to react, often using way more force than would have even initially required and that is when it gets ugly.
In closing, I will agree it's nice to be tougher, but in reality this isn't necessarily true. Projection of strength early on, calm and confidence can over come superior ability. But it has to be authentic and legitimate
This is so true ! I learned it as a Police Officer. In the police world, this is called Command Presence. It is an officer's best friend and in reality its a life saver. As an (ex) officer in an ex-murder capital of the nation, you can't survive if you lack Command Presence.
The thing about command presence is that it also needs to be authentic. If you fake having power it's clear to everyone at the party. Gangsters sense a fraud, whether it be the local neighborhood gangster or a world stage gangster.
I have many for instances but the reality is don't overplay your hand and get called out. Be authentic with your projection of strength and the sooner you project strength in a calm and confident manner, the better off you will be. And in turn, if your goal was to be peaceful, the better off the opposing force will be.
A lack of the above abilities, enables and emboldens the opposing force to act. At that point you have to react, often using way more force than would have even initially required and that is when it gets ugly.
In closing, I will agree it's nice to be tougher, but in reality this isn't necessarily true. Projection of strength early on, calm and confidence can over come superior ability. But it has to be authentic and legitimate
GHoe
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(The last line)
"Unfortunately, tragically, this is proof that rigged elections produce bad consequences." (Biden as president is being inferred)
To me, that denies God's word. Romans 13:1 - "Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God."
I personally prefer "unfortunately, tragically, this is proof that when we (nation/people/world) stray from God it produces bad consequences."
While I completely agree the election was a sham. I see so many Christians trade in Romans 13:1 (specifically this part ) - "For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God". They trade it for their own "self deemed righteous anger" and ability to point blame for the downfall of this nation/people/world, which conveniently precludes them from any involvement.
Then we say "Those dang libs.. if only". What that very quietly does is say that liberals, that evil, allowed Biden to be in power, not God...
No, the moral decline of this nation is most likely what made God allow Biden as our leader. Go back and read the Romans 1 effect on this website.. I thinkbit applies. We are getting what we asked for because as a whole this nation has moved away from God and denied the truth.
Just my .02 , The sooner we are able to claim publicly that God's will (likely in response to this nation falling away as a whole), is the sole reason why Biden is president then we can start having real conversations.
"Unfortunately, tragically, this is proof that rigged elections produce bad consequences." (Biden as president is being inferred)
To me, that denies God's word. Romans 13:1 - "Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God."
I personally prefer "unfortunately, tragically, this is proof that when we (nation/people/world) stray from God it produces bad consequences."
While I completely agree the election was a sham. I see so many Christians trade in Romans 13:1 (specifically this part ) - "For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God". They trade it for their own "self deemed righteous anger" and ability to point blame for the downfall of this nation/people/world, which conveniently precludes them from any involvement.
Then we say "Those dang libs.. if only". What that very quietly does is say that liberals, that evil, allowed Biden to be in power, not God...
No, the moral decline of this nation is most likely what made God allow Biden as our leader. Go back and read the Romans 1 effect on this website.. I thinkbit applies. We are getting what we asked for because as a whole this nation has moved away from God and denied the truth.
Just my .02 , The sooner we are able to claim publicly that God's will (likely in response to this nation falling away as a whole), is the sole reason why Biden is president then we can start having real conversations.
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I found this article over at the top of the JPost.com page right now and it talks a little bit about the "Woke West" and Putin that this OP talked about and brings to light some of the comments that Putin has made in the past regarding the "cancel culture" and the Left's attempt to destroy the West through liberal and socialism dogma.
https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-699250
I know that a few of you did not like the OP article, but the truth of the matter is that there is probably a good chance that a little bit of "everything" is why things have played out like they have in Ukraine. Not just the things mentioned in the OP, but of course, the return of the glory of Cold War Russia, etc.
That is probably closer to the truth than just one or the other.
I think this sentence summed up the article above:
"He seems to have imagined that democratic societies in the throes of a moral and spiritual crisis would be ripe for the picking."
Putin’s move to undermine the woke West - opinion
https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-699250
I know that a few of you did not like the OP article, but the truth of the matter is that there is probably a good chance that a little bit of "everything" is why things have played out like they have in Ukraine. Not just the things mentioned in the OP, but of course, the return of the glory of Cold War Russia, etc.
That is probably closer to the truth than just one or the other.
I think this sentence summed up the article above:
"He seems to have imagined that democratic societies in the throes of a moral and spiritual crisis would be ripe for the picking."
Wings Like Eagles
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Putin is not a communist, Andy. He is well studied in history, however, and it is likely he longs for Mother Russia to get back some of the grandeur it had in the past, from the 17th through the 19th century--instead of the absolute disaster that the 20th century was for Russia. He has the traditional Russian paranoia about the possibility of being invaded by Europeans. But he also likely has fears of being financially destroyed by the money powers of the globalists. That is NOT an unreasonable fear. As the saying goes, "It isn't really paranoia if they really ARE out to get you." Militarily, he is an opportunist and ruthless but he is not stupid (nor is he "crazy"). He saw a weakness in the U.S. (which is really the backbone of NATO) and he was more than willing to take advantage of it--especially after he secured China's tepid backing. (China has its own fish to fry in Taiwan, so they will watch the geopolitics of the current Ukrainian situation very carefully.) Putin really doesn't want the U.S. as his enemy but he most definitely sees the European globalists as his financial enemies. They waged economic war on Russia throughout the 20th century and the Germans took it one step further.
In WWII, Russia lost 26 million people to the Nazi invasion and the following war. Four million were lost in the German forces' Siege of Leningrad, alone. Over 650,000 Leningrad civilians died of starvation and exposure. As in the case of Napoleon's invasion, the Germans thought they would break the Russian resistance in a matter of a week or two. The siege lasted 900 days. In the end, the German invasion, was stopped from going further into Russia and like the invasion by Napoleon's troops, was ultimately defeated by the Russian "General Winter" along with the French and German inability to supply their troops.
At one time, Putin actually put forward the idea that Russia would one day join NATO. But, he soon abandoned that notion when it became clear the the Neocons and Neo-Liberals of the U.S. were bent on conquering the Middle East and not at all interested in helping Russia to recover from the horrible debacle that the breakup of the Soviet Union was. The 1990s were some of the worst, most hopeless days that Russia had ever had. Soviet atheism had left the people dispirited and afraid and they were dominated by former politburo gangsters who robbed whatever little wealth was left. Alcoholism was the leading cause of death for Russian men in those years. These are very complicated issues and prayer for the Russian and Ukrainian people are what is needed most at this point.
Wings Like Eagles
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So true. Our leaders are a reflection of who we are as a people. As the Israelites learned, to their dismay, when the people are corrupt, they beget leaders who are even more corrupt who then further corrupt the people and the downward spiral continues until that nation is destroyed through internal decay and external aggression. It was only 80 years from the perversion of German theology to the rise of the madness of Nazi fascism.
cheeky200386
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That's completely right. We as a nation are perverted and God fearing men and women are the minority. There is no more shame for behaviors that used to be kept in the dark. Sins are flouted in public and celebrated. I think many more actually voted for Biden than we would like to believe.
Tall Timbers
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I found this article over at the top of the JPost.com page right now and it talks a little bit about the "Woke West" and Putin that this OP talked about and brings to light some of the comments that Putin has made in the past regarding the "cancel culture" and the Left's attempt to destroy the West through liberal and socialism dogma.
Putin’s move to undermine the woke West - opinion
https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-699250
I know that a few of you did not like the OP article, but the truth of the matter is that there is probably a good chance that a little bit of "everything" is why things have played out like they have in Ukraine. Not just the things mentioned in the OP, but of course, the return of the glory of Cold War Russia, etc.
That is probably closer to the truth than just one or the other.
I think this sentence summed up the article above:
"He seems to have imagined that democratic societies in the throes of a moral and spiritual crisis would be ripe for the picking."
Interesting article. Covers a lot of ground.
daygo
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That's true, how it's going to happen who knows.
madcat
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This week I listened to one of Jan Markel’s podcasts (don’t remember who the guest speaker was), but in the conversation, he said that the latest assessment of the number of born-again people in the US is approx. 6%. He thinks the number who “identify” as believing in Jesus is probably 20-25%, but the majority have never prayed to Jesus to save them and forgive their sins.
So the direct impact of the rapture on the US seems to be diminishing rapidly.
Once solid churches are becoming apostate and leading so many off “the cliff”. And it’s not just the younger generations that are lost, but many in once solid churches have been deceived.
We will not be here to see the actual numbers, but I see true Christianity growing (underground) in persecuted nations. Instead of people in the US being driven to seek truth and understand the real plan behind the OWO takeover in the past 2+ years, it seems that the opposite has happened, and truth is soooooo passé.
Epieikes
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It is heartbreaking, isn't it? Having been blessed to minister in Kenya twice and moved by Yahweh to give 10 percent of our struggling WellSpring monthly budget, no matter what comes in and even if bills and Mike's salary struggle (our only paid staff) to missions local and international, I absolutely agree with you that Christianity is growing in persecuted nations. As a short aside, I am concerned that the "NAR-and-cousins" heretical movement is part of that rapid growth, but the Lord will sort that out. I sincerely DO believe, if you look at the generations that are still living...especially our octogenarians and beyond, a significant amount have retained the true faith, even as we see our nation's new commitments shrinking. If we go underground in the US before the Rapture (pray not, Lord, come SOON!), we can predict a pseudo-soar, too. It's the nature of persecution. It always defeats the enemy by raising more. Only the Lord knows the percentages...for us, we toil for each and every life, precious to Him. Maranatha!This week I listened to one of Jan Markel’s podcasts (don’t remember who the guest speaker was), but in the conversation, he said that the latest assessment of the number of born-again people in the US is approx. 6%. He thinks the number who “identify” as believing in Jesus is probably 20-25%, but the majority have never prayed to Jesus to save them and forgive their sins.
So the direct impact of the rapture on the US seems to be diminishing rapidly.
Once solid churches are becoming apostate and leading so many off “the cliff”. And it’s not just the younger generations that are lost, but many in once solid churches have been deceived.
We will not be here to see the actual numbers, but I see true Christianity growing (underground) in persecuted nations. Instead of people in the US being driven to seek truth and understand the real plan behind the OWO takeover in the past 2+ years, it seems that the opposite has happened, and truth is soooooo passé.
Wings Like Eagles
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Prayers for you and your ministry as you do the hard work of evangelism. What I hear from those in the fields here, is that recent immigrant communities are very receptive to the gospel. Indians and Sikhs actually send their children to summer Bible-study, day camps. Muslims, depending on what part of the Islamic world they are from are also very receptive. Indonesians and Filipinos (typically "Catholic") are receptive. Also hear from friends in south Texas who work with illegals and they say that they are embracing the truth of Scripture over Catholic dogma. Maranatha!
Tall Timbers
Imperfect but forgiven
I'd say it's not that impact of the Rapture on the US is diminishing rapidly, but if the person is correct in their assessment, we're just closer to the truth of the matter. I've often stated a number a good bit below 6%, but I think maybe my personal number in terms of what percentage of the US population will go in the Rapture has maybe creeped up some.
People that base their ideas on that topic on the number of church goers are going to be way off. And if church attendance has been dropping in modern times, I don't believe that'll have an affect on the number who go in the Rapture. The Rapture will take the whole Church, the Body of Christ, and those who haven't accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior will be left behind with one more chance at Salvation before it is too late.
Epieikes
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Thank you so much! He is Jehovah Jireh, supplier and provider for all of His kids, at every stage of our lives here. It is encouraging to see what He is up to in the populations and locations you mentioned. All are precious in His sight. He's continuing to build His rainbow! Ecclesiastes 3:11. Thank you for sharing.
Wings Like Eagles
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There was a paper published by Harvard University press, back in 2019 about the fascist/plutocrat ("Nazi" for short) factions in Ukraine. The OUN and UPA (don't ask me to spell out the Ukrainian names--they go on forever) have said that fascism is a problem in Ukraine--especially in the eastern part of the country where their thugs terrorize and murder ethnic Russians. Since Harvard is very much owned by the fascist/plutocrats that are trying to take control here, by pretending to be communists, I would tend to regard it as the truth. It is a long paper and is meticulous in its scholarship. It is by: Peter Black, Bela Rasky and Marianne Windsperger as the editors. You can look it up unless it has been scrubbed.
Dragontiger777
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Hey Brother/Sister
Here is
Daniel 7:5
“And there before me was a second beast, which looked like a bear. It was raised up on one of its sides, and it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. It was told, ‘Get up and eat your fill of flesh!’
You see three ribs in its mouth between its teeth...That is Dragon (Antichrist) will rip three ribs in mouth that will be Russia, China, Arabic?
Here is
Daniel 7:5
“And there before me was a second beast, which looked like a bear. It was raised up on one of its sides, and it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. It was told, ‘Get up and eat your fill of flesh!’
You see three ribs in its mouth between its teeth...That is Dragon (Antichrist) will rip three ribs in mouth that will be Russia, China, Arabic?
This week I listened to one of Jan Markel’s podcasts (don’t remember who the guest speaker was), but in the conversation, he said that the latest assessment of the number of born-again people in the US is approx. 6%. He thinks the number who “identify” as believing in Jesus is probably 20-25%, but the majority have never prayed to Jesus to save them and forgive their sins.
So the direct impact of the rapture on the US seems to be diminishing rapidly.
Once solid churches are becoming apostate and leading so many off “the cliff”. And it’s not just the younger generations that are lost, but many in once solid churches have been deceived.
We will not be here to see the actual numbers, but I see true Christianity growing (underground) in persecuted nations. Instead of people in the US being driven to seek truth and understand the real plan behind the OWO takeover in the past 2+ years, it seems that the opposite has happened, and truth is soooooo passé.
The truth is they don't know what the percentages are. Just guesstimates that may or may not be right.
I think the rapture will decimate the USA. JMHO.
Ukraine is not a NATO member. The rubber will hit the road if and when Putin makes a move on a NATO country if he does. I saw something that said that Moldova is probably the next target and they are not a NATO county but to the west of them is a NATO country. They said that they think Putin may try to move on Lithuania which is a NATO country if he was to move on a NATO country. In fact, each of the 3 former Soviet Baltic countries is a NATO member. That will be when we see if NATO holds up. If it NATO does holdup, maybe Putin starts looking south (Israel and all her energy wealth?) after all these crippling sanctions and the world pulling out on him? Russia may need more wealth as a result of the sanctions and stuff? I'm just guessing here. I don't know any more than anyone else so we will just have to watch and see.
The truth is that the Ukraine was wanting to join NATO, mostly because NATO wants to put missiles in the Ukraine and that would allow NATO to be able to hit Russia in less than five minutes and they couldn’t do anything about it.
Our Government is working with NATO to try and implement the New World Order. What this war is really about is who is going to control the NWO. Will it be the Western Nations or will it be Russia and China? It will all break into a bigger war. It’s all prophesied. It’s also a reason for them to implement the digital dollar, which is in the process in many countries. Once we join the war, we will go digital too.
Our Government is working with NATO to try and implement the New World Order. What this war is really about is who is going to control the NWO. Will it be the Western Nations or will it be Russia and China? It will all break into a bigger war. It’s all prophesied. It’s also a reason for them to implement the digital dollar, which is in the process in many countries. Once we join the war, we will go digital too.
Tall Timbers
Imperfect but forgiven
I don't understand how entering the current war would put us on the path to digital dollars. Additionally, if we entered the war, it would be over very quickly, for most everybody, all sides...
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