Gog, Magog, and Ukraine

Chris

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Gog, Magog, and Ukraine
By Hal Lindsey

In a recent column entitled, “Rumors of War,” I explained why the Russian-led invasion of Israel detailed in Ezekiel 38 and 39 will include Ukraine. These passages give the leader of this coalition the symbolic name, “Gog.” Could Putin be Gog? He sure could. Is he? We simply don’t know.

Some believe that he is, and that the choice to go into Ukraine was not really his at all. They say God is “compelling” him. Ezekiel 38:4 speaks of God putting hooks in Gog’s jaws to draw him into a war against Israel. But Ukraine is not Israel. God did not put hooks in Putin’s jaws, forcing him to attack Ukraine.

Still, the prophetic significance of Russia’s move into Ukraine cannot be denied. And it does not end with the fact that Ukraine will join Russia as a part of the Ezekiel 38 coalition. The war is also impelling Europe to arm itself. In recent years, at the urging of the United States, Europe’s NATO nations made token increases in their defense budgets. But they clearly preferred for US taxpayers to shoulder the cost of their defense.

Putin changed that. Today, Europe is looking to arm itself. Previously neutral countries are suddenly hoping to join NATO. During the Cold War, Finland and Sweden were famously nonaligned. Soviet atrocities were not enough to get them to stand with other western nations against the Soviet Union. But now, they see Putin as willing to attack any nonaligned, nonnuclear power. By joining NATO, they would instantly put themselves under the protection of American, French, and British nukes.

Putin’s action in Ukraine also puts pressure on the European Union to arm itself. The EU has always been an economic and political entity. For years, several key leaders have wanted to also make it a military power. Now, with Putin’s help, that idea has new momentum. A central command and control over all the armies of Europe would, in an instant, make the EU a global military power. The Bible says that such power will one day be handed over to Antichrist.

Despite “green new deal” politics, the real world still depends on fossil fuel. That fact looms large over Putin’s war. In recent years, we learned that Israel has an abundance of natural gas. The Israel-to-Europe gas pipeline is scheduled for completion by the end of 2025. At that point, Israel becomes a major threat to Russia’s natural gas monopoly in Europe. That gives “Gog” a major incentive to one day attack Israel.

Bible prophecy also speaks of economic instability (especially inflation) and a general atmosphere of chaos and fear in the last days. Those things were already happening, but they have been made dramatically worse by Putin’s war.

We need to have compassion on those who are suffering. And we need to know that this war will almost certainly have a negative impact on the rest of us. But we also need to trust God with our lives. When we escape the fear that threatens to engulf us, it will give us space to see with awe the God who told us about these things thousands of years in advance. He told us about technology that would not be invented or even imagined until our generation. He told us about national alliances before the nations involved had even been founded.

“And He told us that in all these things, to rest in Him” – (Psalm 37:7).

https://www.raptureforums.com/ezekiel-38-39/gog-magog-and-ukraine/
 

Chris

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Please remember the forum rules against speculating on the identity of the AC, Gog, etc. Hal has already said what some think and has gone there in the article. Please do not expand on that subject. Only time will tell on that topic as Hal said.

There is plenty to disucss about this article without the Gog identity speculation. Thank you.
 

athenasius

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Still, the prophetic significance of Russia’s move into Ukraine cannot be denied. And it does not end with the fact that Ukraine will join Russia as a part of the Ezekiel 38 coalition. The war is also impelling Europe to arm itself. In recent years, at the urging of the United States, Europe’s NATO nations made token increases in their defense budgets. But they clearly preferred for US taxpayers to shoulder the cost of their defense.
These are 2 of the big things that this war is doing right now. Putting Magog back together.

The fact that Europe is suddenly facing the need to strengthen itself, get arms, train an army is most interesting, looking ahead to a future revived Roman Empire or worldwide system based on Roman roots.

2022 is moving even faster than the previous 2 years towards a Biblical alignment of countries, governments and globalism.
The Israel-to-Europe gas pipeline is scheduled for completion by the end of 2025. At that point, Israel becomes a major threat to Russia’s natural gas monopoly in Europe.

Now that is interesting because there are reports of delays-- but at that same time, EGYPT is acting as a go between and selling Israeli gas via tanker ships to Europe, doing a favour to Israel, getting the gas to market NOW.

BIDEN has delayed that pipeline or tried to, I remember news reports about that a short while ago before war broke out. This news report here dated Jan 18 explains it https://www.politico.eu/article/eas...-ran-afoul-of-geopolitics-and-green-policies/

But the Israelis are managing to get the gas to market NOW using Egypt to do it. https://www.reuters.com/article/israel-egypt-natgas-exports-idUSL8N29K57Z as per this article dated Jan 15 of this year. Looks like Israel saw trouble coming and planned a way around it.

So Hal's info is good, but the time frame is a little faster than even he was expecting.
 

daygo

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Decent article but imo Ukraine is not part of ezekiel war, may show tiny baby steps towards it, however thought has cometo mind with sanctions and military hardware being depleted how that could effect the timing of the prophecy, it could slow it down somewhat if you get my drift.
 

JoyJoyJoy

I Shall Not Be Moved
@athenasius
A while back you posted some info from an article or book....the thinking was during the first few judgements that a large part of North America would become uninhabitable or maybe the population killed? Maybe a lot of people would be living in Europe and Asia???

Am I remembering correctly?
Would you kindly post that info or source or original post again?? I thought I had book marked it to chew on later but I didn't and I can't find it again.
Help a sister out! Much love...Missy
 

Flavius Sabinus

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@athenasius
A while back you posted some info from an article or book....the thinking was during the first few judgements that a large part of North America would become uninhabitable or maybe the population killed? Maybe a lot of people would be living in Europe and Asia???

Am I remembering correctly?
Would you kindly post that info or source or original post again?? I thought I had book marked it to chew on later but I didn't and I can't find it again.
Help a sister out! Much love...Missy
Our brother Pete Garcia has written about this theory in articles as to what he thinks will happen with North America who's landmass is about 1/3 of the world's total and also the Atlantic Ocean which is around 1/3 of the world's total which tie in to certain judgements during the Tribulation.

His theory is that these judgements will make North America pretty much uninhabitable and the Atlantic Ocean will be utterly depleted also, which will make the AC's main focus Europe, the Middle East and Africa. Maybe parts of Asia too, can't remember.
 

athenasius

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@athenasius
A while back you posted some info from an article or book....the thinking was during the first few judgements that a large part of North America would become uninhabitable or maybe the population killed? Maybe a lot of people would be living in Europe and Asia???

Am I remembering correctly?
Would you kindly post that info or source or original post again?? I thought I had book marked it to chew on later but I didn't and I can't find it again.
Help a sister out! Much love...Missy
Our brother Pete Garcia has written about this theory in articles as to what he thinks will happen with North America who's landmass is about 1/3 of the world's total and also the Atlantic Ocean which is around 1/3 of the world's total which tie in to certain judgements during the Tribulation.

His theory is that these judgements will make North America pretty much uninhabitable and the Atlantic Ocean will be utterly depleted also, which will make the AC's main focus Europe, the Middle East and Africa. Maybe parts of Asia too, can't remember.
Flavius is right, ever since Pete wrote about this theory, I've been intrigued. https://www.raptureforums.com/forum...osmic-implications-of-divine-judgment.183746/

from the conclusion:
"If the US collapses after the Rapture (she will) then it only makes sense that God is channelizing people back to the Old World. Perhaps the reason He is doing this is that it will force the Beast Kingdom to align and function according to their ancient boundaries and that being primarily around the Mediterranean and Israel. This channelizing into denser populations also serves to intensify the effects of the judgments upon the remaining populations. The 21+ divine judgments also seem to serve the purpose of both, purging, as well as, terraforming the earth ahead of the impending Kingdom Age."

We know that 1/4 die in the first 4 Seals. Another 1/3 of those remaining from that first set of judgments die in the Trumpets that follow.

Pete's idea was to look at the land masses of the earth, and North and South America together are about 1/3 of the total, and about 1/3 of the earth's population, fresh water and so forth.

His thought was that if the Americas were destroyed, possibly one of the Trumpets-- this would fit the numbers but also it would force the remainder of the earth into the one main land mass of the continents of Africa, Europe and Asia with Israel at the centre of things as always.

This would also force the world govt to centralize in Iraq (Babylon) and bring the remaining Jews home to Israel.

And that would fit with the concept of how God originally scattered humanity at Babel, and sent the Gospel out from Jerusalem to the world in the past, but in the Tribulation He reverses the process and concentrates the Jews in Israel where they will believe Christ or die and allows the globalist govt that Nimrod originally wanted to build to finally happen in Babylon.
 
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