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Trump Admin Working to Broker Normalization Deal Between Sudan and Israel
"The U.S. is ramping up pressure on Sudan to become the next country to normalize relations with Israel, but negotiations have reportedly stalled over the amount of a financial incentive involved in a potential deal. The agreement hinges in part on the Trump administration removing Sudan from the U.S. list of “state sponsors of terrorism,” which could happen before Election Day. The United Arab Emirates and Bahrain both signed U.S.-brokered agreements to normalize relations with Israel earlier this month at the White House."
https://www.democracynow.org/2020/9...r_normalization_deal_between_sudan_and_israel

If they keep throwing money at this, it is going to look like a bribe. Truth is, even if it goes through, it may not last more than 2 years when the new government is voted in...
 

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Syria demands Israel immediately end its occupation of the Golan Heights
"The permanent representative of Syria to the United Nations and other international organizations in Geneva, Ambassador Hussameddine Aalla, renewed Damascus’s demand to end the Israeli occupation of the Syrian Golan.

The ambassador said during the 45th session of the Human Rights Council:

“Despite repeated calls by the Human Rights Council and by the main organs of the United Nations calling for an end to the Israeli occupation of the Syrian Golan, the occupation entity continues its illegal practices and measures to impose its laws and administration on the occupied Golan in violation.”

He said, “The occupation authorities continue their repressive practices against the Syrian citizens of the occupied Golan and impose restrictions and arbitrary measures that violate their basic rights, including their right to work, health, education, property and freedom of movement, while continuing to steal the natural resources of the Golan.”

He continued: “The occupying power continues to harass the citizens of the Golan through attempts to confiscate agricultural lands owned by them and threaten them to expropriate them to force them to accept property titles issued by the occupation authorities and establish an agricultural reality that supports Israeli settlers in addition to restricting the movement of the Syrian population and preventing them from building on their land, and preventing them from visiting their relatives in the motherland.”

The Syrian official stressed “the importance of Article Seven in monitoring the Israeli violations of human rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem and the occupied Syrian Golan, and its role in pressuring to compel Israel to stop committing illegal violations and practices and end its occupation, pointing to the responsibility of the states that support Israel, to continue these crimes.”

https://etleboro.org/g/d13238c7b3e5...ately-end-its-occupation-of-the-golan-heights
 

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U.S. push for Sudan to recognize Israel falters — and puts Khartoum in a tight spot
"According to two Sudanese officials with knowledge of the talks, they faltered partly because Sudanese negotiators feared a rushed recognition of Israel, without a large-enough economic relief package to sweeten the deal, could turn popular support against Sudan’s precarious, unelected transitional government, which took power after the overthrow of the country’s longtime autocratic ruler, Omar Hassan al-Bashir, last year."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...d45572-01dc-11eb-b92e-029676f9ebec_story.html

Islamic authority in Sudan voices opposition to Sudan's normalization with Israel
"The Islamic governmental authority in Sudan on Wednesday announced its opposition to Sudan's normalization with Israel in all fields."
"This Fatwa, a legal opinion based on the Islamic law, was announced by Islamic Fiqh Complex on its Facebook page as Washington has been exercising pressures on Khartoum to join the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Bahrain in achieving normalization with Israel."
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-10/01/c_139410905.htm
 

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UAE ambassador to US: Sudan, Oman in no hurry to normalize ties with Israel
Yousef Al Otaiba also estimates that Sudan would demand a far higher price from US than that demanded by UAE in return for an agreement.

The ambassador of the United Arab Emirates to the United States, Yousef Al Otaiba, was interviewed by the Maariv newspaper, and put a damper on Israeli hopes for an impending peace deal with either Sudan or Oman. According to Al Otaiba, who played a key role in promoting Israel's recent treaty with his country, neither Sudan nor Oman is in any hurry to normalize its relations with Israel.

Oman has a relatively new Sultan in power, and Sudan is in the midst of a political transition in advance of elections, making any bold move less likely. He also estimated that Sudan would demand a far higher price of the United States than that demanded by the UAE in return for coming to an agreement with Israel.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/288193
 

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Russia, Iran Expand Military Cooperation Against US and Europe in Gulf
Many Iranian commentators and some in Moscow now are even speaking about the creation of “a Russian-Iranian military alliance” that will allow the two countries to oppose the United States’ presence in the Gulf and threaten the vital oil shipping lanes that the US has helped keep open.

Russia and Iran have been talking about expanding such ties for several years. But in the last several weeks, their cooperation—which Tehran has celebrated in Iranian media but which Moscow has, until now, understated—appears to have assumed a more concrete form. At least in part, this is because the United Nations’ restrictions on Iran’s importation of weapons from foreign countries, including Russia, will expire in mid-October. Both governments hope that Russia will then be in a position to sell much-needed military systems to the Iranians without inviting further sanctions.

https://jamestown.org/program/russia-iran-expand-military-cooperation-against-us-and-europe-in-gulf/
 

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Karabakh Tests 'Competitive Cooperation' of Putin, Erdogan

The marriage of convenience between Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan has confounded sceptics by withstanding Russian and Turkish rivalries in Syria and Libya.
Now, with the deadliest fighting in decades returning to Azerbaijan's Armenian separatist region of Nagorno Karabakh, the bond between the two strong-willed leaders is being tested in Russia's own backyard, analysts said.
Putin, who views the volatile Caucasus as part of Russia's "near abroad", wants Muslim Azerbaijan and Christian Armenia to bury their historic rivalries and make peace.
Not so Erdogan, who is urging Azerbaijan to press on with its campaign until Armenian separatists withdraw "from every span of Azerbaijani territory".
"Turkey and Russia are engaged in a relationship which can be best characterised as competitive cooperation," said Ozgur Unluhisarcikli, Ankara office director of the US German Marshall Fund.
"The South Caucasus is among the regions where this competition is most intense."

Putin's Anger

The Kremlin supplies arms to both Yerevan and Baku, although Armenia -- while poorer and smaller than its resource-rich eastern neighbor -- is also part of a Moscow defense alliance and hosts a Russian base.
Turkey, meanwhile, views Azerbaijan as a brotherly nation whose interests it will defend on the global stage.
While their differences in the Caucasus are not yet as stark as they have been on the battlefields of Syria and Libya, where Moscow and Ankara back opposing sides, analysts said the situation was fraught with risks.
Erdogan appears to know Putin's limits, stopping short of backing Baku militarily and keeping mum about reports that Turkey was sending Libyan or Syrian mercenaries to the Caucasus.
And weighing its own interests, the Kremlin has shown only tepid support for Armenia, whose current prime minister, Nikol Pashinyan, has previously irritated Moscow.
"Turkey's support to Azerbaijan is not new, but Russia's reluctance to back Armenia is. So I don't think Erdogan is attracting Putin's anger, yet," Unluhisarcikli said.
But if Russia feels threatened "to the extent that it is worth dismantling the relationship it has been developing with Turkey, it can retaliate in Libya and more likely in Syria," Unluhisarcikli said.

Mutual Mistrust

Turkey's Ottoman empire never got along comfortably with the Russian tsarist one, and Moscow's more recent relationship with Ankara has exhibited signs of mutual mistrust.
And while historic, Turkey's hostilities with Armenia are now defined by one of the darkest episodes of Ottoman empire's demise, with the two countries still unable to reconcile the 1915 Armenian genocide.
Erdogan's unlikely courtship of Putin began after he survived a failed Turkish coup in 2016, when Russia was feeling isolated internationally in the wake of its annexation of Crimea.
Erdogan and Putin began cooperating more closely in Syria, where Russia backs the regime of President Bashar al-Assad, and Turkey supported the insurgency trying to topple him.
Yet it was always an uneasy alliance.
More than 30 Turkish soldiers have died this year alone in northwestern Syria.
The strains have been compounded in Libya, where Turkey supports a UN-recognised government in the west, and Russia helps the eastern-based commander Khalifa Haftar with fighters from the Kremlin-linked Wagner group.
"Turkey-Russia relations were already very complicated because of Syria and Libya. The Azerbaijan-Armenia conflict will further complicate this relation," said Ankara-based analyst Ali Bakeer.

'Common Language'

While Putin might be wary of Erdogan's push into the Caucasus, Bakeer said Turkey views Syria as part of its own "backyard" in which Russia is meddling.
"The latest disagreement (in northwest Syria) shows that Moscow is not willing to make things easy for Ankara," he said.
Alexei Khlebnikov, a Middle East analyst with the Russian International Affairs Council, agreed that Turkey's diplomatic posturing in Nagorno Karabakh could affect its relations with Russia in other hotspots, particularly Syria.
"Not in a major way, but there will be some influence," Khlebnikov said.
"We know that in the past years Russia and Turkey have gone through more than a few crisis situations that couldn't cardinally drive a wedge between the two countries," Khlebnikov said.
"Russia and Turkey will try to find a common language, but there are no guarantees."
Emre Kaya, of Istanbul's Centre for Economics and Foreign Policy Studies, said Russia was most likely to retaliate if Ankara went beyond supplying Baku with intelligence and logistical support -- or if Azerbaijan made swift military gains.
"Then we could definitely expect a Russian-backed attack on Turkish troops stationed in Syria or Libya," Kaya said.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020...mpetitive-cooperation-of-putin-erdogan-a71639
 

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Sudan, Oman postpone normalising ties with Israel until after US elections

An Israeli newspaper has reported that Sudan and Oman have postponed normalising ties with Israel till after the US elections, Rai Al-Youm reported on Friday.

Reporting Israeli newspaper Maariv, Rai Al-Youm disclosed that the 2 Arab international locations wouldn’t supply their “valuable items” to US President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu earlier than the US elections.

https://unfoldtimes.com/sudan-oman-postpone-normalising-ties-with-israel-until-after-us-elections/
 

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Erdogan says Turkey aims to boost ties with Libya's GNA

Prime Minister Fayez al-Sarraj signed a military cooperation deal with Erdogan last year that turned the tide in the GNA's favor in a conflict against eastern Libyan forces under Khalifa Haftar's Libyan National Army (LNA).
After a meeting between the men and their top deputies in Istanbul, the Presidency said Turkey will continue to stand in "full solidarity" with the GNA, aims to strengthen ties and remains ready to provide all kinds of support.
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/erdogan-says-turkey-aims-to-boost-ties-with-libyas-gna-644531
 

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Gantz says Turkey opposed to regional peace

Briefing Gulf Arab reporters as a follow-up to Israel's founding of ties with the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, Defence Minister Benny Gantz described Turkey and Iran as "denying promotion of peace and supporting regional aggression."
Iran - Israel's chief enemy - and Turkey have criticized the US-brokered Sept. 15 normalization deal between Israel and the Gulf powers, seeing a betrayal of the Palestinian cause.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/gantz-says-turkey-opposed-to-regional-peace-644520
 

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US push for Arab-Israel ties divides Sudanese leaders

Sudan’s fragile interim government is sharply divided over normalizing relations with Israel, as it finds itself under intense pressure from the Trump administration to become the third Arab country to do so in short order — after the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain.

Washington's push for Sudan-Israel ties is part of a campaign to score foreign policy achievements ahead of the U.S. presidential election in November.

Sudan seemed like a natural target for the pressure campaign because of U.S. leverage — Khartoum's desperate efforts to be removed from a U.S. list of states sponsoring terrorism. Sudan can only get the international loans and aid that are essential for reviving its battered economy once that stain is removed.

While Sudan's transitional government has been negotiating the terms of removing the country from the list for more than a year, U.S. officials introduced the linkage to normalization with Israel more recently.

https://www.myplainview.com/news/article/US-push-for-Arab-Israel-ties-divides-Sudanese-15619766.php
 

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Turkey welcomes Sudan’s peace deal with armed groups, pledges continued support

Turkey on Sunday welcomed the signing of a peace agreement between the transitional government of Sudan and armed groups as an important step toward the preservation of the country’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

"We welcome the signing of the agreement, which was previously initialed, between the transitional government of Sudan and the armed opposition groups in Juba yesterday (Oct. 3),'' the Turkish Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

"We believe that this agreement will constitute an important step toward the preservation of Sudan's sovereignty and territorial integrity," the statement said.

Turkey will continue to support all efforts aimed at attaining peace and stability in the "friendly and brotherly" Sudan, it added.
https://www.dailysabah.com/politics...l-with-armed-groups-pledges-continued-support
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Coming from Turkey, I would believe the opposite is true. Turkey would not gain a thing from a transitional government that is peaceful and Israel-friendly.
 
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US 'deeply concerned' with reports about Turkey's possible S-400 system tests
Earlier, it was reported that Ankara had deployed Russian S-400 air defense systems to the Black Sea province of Samsun - probably for testing. The Turkish authorities have not made any official statements on this yet.

"We are aware of these reports. We continue to object strenuously to Turkey's purchase of the S-400 air defense system, and are deeply concerned with reports that Turkey is continuing its efforts to bring the S-400 into operation. Our suspension of Turkey from the F-35 program, in response to the S-400 acquisition, signaled the seriousness with which the Administration approaches this issue," a State Department spokesperson told Sputnik.

"We continue to stress at the highest levels that the S-400 transaction remains a major obstacle in the bilateral relationship and at NATO, as well as a risk for potential CAATSA sanctions. We are confident that President Erdogan and his senior officials understand our position," the spokesperson said.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Is this what gets Turkey kicked out of NATO????
 

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US 'deeply concerned' with reports about Turkey's possible S-400 system tests
Earlier, it was reported that Ankara had deployed Russian S-400 air defense systems to the Black Sea province of Samsun - probably for testing. The Turkish authorities have not made any official statements on this yet.

"We are aware of these reports. We continue to object strenuously to Turkey's purchase of the S-400 air defense system, and are deeply concerned with reports that Turkey is continuing its efforts to bring the S-400 into operation. Our suspension of Turkey from the F-35 program, in response to the S-400 acquisition, signaled the seriousness with which the Administration approaches this issue," a State Department spokesperson told Sputnik.

"We continue to stress at the highest levels that the S-400 transaction remains a major obstacle in the bilateral relationship and at NATO, as well as a risk for potential CAATSA sanctions. We are confident that President Erdogan and his senior officials understand our position," the spokesperson said.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Is this what gets Turkey kicked out of NATO????
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MAJOR: Russia Ready To Supply S-400 To Iran

Russian Ambassador to Tehran Levan Dzhagaryan said that his country recognizes the expiration of UN arms sanctions against Iran on October 18 and is ready to supply the country with its S-400 air defense system.

We have said since the very first day that there will be no problem for selling weapons to Iran from October 19,” Dzhagaryan said in an interview with the Persian-language Resalat newspaper on Saturday.

He underlined that Russia does not care about US threats and will remain committed to its undertakings, adding that Moscow is ready to study the Iranian side’s proposals on purchasing weapons from Russia after October 18.

“As you know we have provided Iran with S-300. Russia does not have any problem to deliver S-400 to Iran and it did not have any problem before either,” Dzhagaryan said.

After the removal of pre-nuclear-deal sanctions against Iran, Russia delivered S-300 air defense systems to the country under the existing contract. Iran designed and developed its own version of the S-300 missile shield (named Bavar 373) after the Russians first shrugged off delivery of their advanced missile defense system to Iran in accordance with the existing restrictions due to the UN Security Council sanctions.

Although the Iranian version has inferior features in comparison to the original Russian model, it still retains much of the increased mobility, agility, and reduced launch-preparation time. Iranian commanders had earlier said that Bavar 373 is similar to its original Russian model and traces and intercepts high-altitude targets.

The addition of S-400 to the Iranian arsenal would greatly enhance its military capabilities. Depending on the surface-to-air missiles used, the S-400 has the capability of shooting down virtually any type of a flying object at extreme ranges of up to 400 km. The system would act as a force multiplier for Iran’s already formidable air defenses.

https://geopolitics.news/south-asia/major-russia-ready-to-supply-s-400-to-iran/
 
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