Elon Musk Will Reportedly Be Implanting Microchips Into Humans As Early As This Year

Matthew6:33

Withstand in the evil day. Eph 6:13

alisani

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This is real cool. If his heart is open, and the Lord knows, he may have invited the Lord to start working on him. Regardless, it takes grace to even get that far.

Before I accepted Christ as Savior I could see myself responding like that. Maybe it was the hand of God? :pray
I've been praying for his salvation. With someone like Musk, with all that God-gifted knowledge and ability, I pray that it's not wasted. When you look at all of creation, at all the things we have been blessed to do-be it astrophysics or music or math or dance, etc. I find it sad to think of that beauty and ability being used for evil or wasted.
 

Andiamo

"Let's go!"
This is real cool. If his heart is open, and the Lord knows, he may have invited the Lord to start working on him. Regardless, it takes grace to even get that far.

Before I accepted Christ as Savior I could see myself responding like that. Maybe it was the hand of God? :pray
I fast forwarded to the end of the video to see it for myself....I saw a tenderness there that really surprised me and touched my heart. :pray
 

Footsteps

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I’ll bet the DNC is going to ask Elon to develop a chip that will enable anyone within the continental United States to think-vote for his candidate. This will ensure that any citizen (or not) can save Democracy by voting for the Democrat of his choice. Confirmation of a Democrat vote will be made with a rush of pleasant sensations throughout the voter’s entire body, validating both the vote and the fact that he has been crucial to preserving our Democracy.
 

athenasius

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Here is my concern with the popular fear of implants especially ones with computer chips inside them.

Christians who could benefit from an implant might be scared off from getting one for fear of the Mark. These people will suffer for no good reason. God is not honoured and the enemy laughs.

That comes down to a lack of Bible knowledge.

Biblical ignorance, confusing the mark with something that can be put on or in someone without their knowledge. That would include being tricked into taking an implant because we are told it will help us in some way.

When it comes to the Mark, it won't happen till halfway thru the Tribulation, and it has to be with complete full consent and understanding. No tricks. God has an angel flying thru the air with the everlasting gospel, warning people not to take it. There is plenty of good theological teaching on why it has to be voluntary, and I won't go into that here. Too long, and it's too late at night.

I think people worry about the Mark being another type of implant. It might be.

Or it could be a tattoo. In which case all our worries about implants are for nothing and tattoos should get a bad rap.

The mark might be something that isn't even invented yet. It isn't needed till just before the Tribulation hits that half way point when the AC makes people take that mark.

The Bible doesn't say specifically what that mark is, other than the name and number of the Beast which is somehow part of it. We don't know exactly what it is.

If we needed to know more, the Bible would have given more explanation. If people before the Trib were supposed to try and prevent it's invention, God would have instructed us.

Instead we don't know.

And won't know. Because it isn't until halfway thru the Tribulation when the Mark is introduced. Long after we are gone in the Rapture.

Fears about the Mark aren't something new.

When QR codes were invented, people imagined the Mark might be a QR code. Bar codes before that were a very real fear for a lot of people. Now most people are used to the scanner at the supermarket reading the bar codes and QR codes off the bags and boxes and cans etc.

I have a very real concern that people who could benefit from an implant will be frightened away from such help because of bad theology and fears that are not based on actual Scripture. It happens.

Paul spoke of the fears people had of eating meat sacrificed to idols. We want to please God and avoid sin.

We can get all tied up in knots worrying about things the Bible is silent on, and stopping someone from possibly getting healed or helped by modern medical advances.

Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for being angry that He healed a woman bent over suffering for 18 long years. The were mad because Jesus healed on the Sabbath. They weren't expecting a Messiah who healed outside their rules or their understanding of God's laws.

They couldn't heal her and they were angry that someone else not only could heal but did it on the Sabbath.

Luke 13: 10-17 NIV
10 On a Sabbath Jesus was teaching in one of the synagogues, 11 and a woman was there who had been crippled by a spirit for eighteen years. She was bent over and could not straighten up at all. 12 When Jesus saw her, he called her forward and said to her, “Woman, you are set free from your infirmity.” 13 Then he put his hands on her, and immediately she straightened up and praised God.

14 Indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, the synagogue leader said to the people, “There are six days for work. So come and be healed on those days, not on the Sabbath.”

15 The Lord answered him, “You hypocrites! Doesn’t each of you on the Sabbath untie your ox or donkey from the stall and lead it out to give it water? 16 Then should not this woman, a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has kept bound for eighteen long years, be set free on the Sabbath day from what bound her?”

17 When he said this, all his opponents were humiliated, but the people were delighted with all the wonderful things he was doing.
 
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MapleLeaf

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Geez, we're all super quick to trust these people again! What is wrong with everyone? I wouldn't want anything with any sort of wireless, "connected' abilities implanted inside of me. It would have to be a closed system. It has nothing to do with being "the mark". I have zero trust in any of the big people at the top. They're going to have to earn that back.
 

JoyJoyJoy

I Shall Not Be Moved
have a very real concern that people who could benefit from an implant will be frightened away from such help because of bad theology and fears that are not based on actual Scripture. It happens.
Agree 100%. The things we see may be foreshadows...or may not be. If a person's quality of life can be improved by a chip, good for them!! I would seriously consider a chip if it would make rheumatoid arthritis easier to live with. Why not??!!??
 

Lastcall

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Here is my concern with the popular fear of implants especially ones with computer chips inside them.

Christians who could benefit from an implant might be scared off from getting one for fear of the Mark. These people will suffer for no good reason. God is not honoured and the enemy laughs.

That comes down to a lack of Bible knowledge.

Biblical ignorance, confusing the mark with something that can be put on or in someone without their knowledge. That would include being tricked into taking an implant because we are told it will help us in some way.

When it comes to the Mark, it won't happen till halfway thru the Tribulation, and it has to be with complete full consent and understanding. No tricks. God has an angel flying thru the air with the everlasting gospel, warning people not to take it. There is plenty of good theological teaching on why it has to be voluntary, and I won't go into that here. Too long, and it's too late at night.

I think people worry about the Mark being another type of implant. It might be.

Or it could be a tattoo. In which case all our worries about implants are for nothing and tattoos should get a bad rap.

The mark might be something that isn't even invented yet. It isn't needed till just before the Tribulation hits that half way point when the AC makes people take that mark.

The Bible doesn't say specifically what that mark is, other than the name and number of the Beast which is somehow part of it. We don't know exactly what it is.

If we needed to know more, the Bible would have given more explanation. If people before the Trib were supposed to try and prevent it's invention, God would have instructed us.

Instead we don't know.

And won't know. Because it isn't until halfway thru the Tribulation when the Mark is introduced. Long after we are gone in the Rapture.

Fears about the Mark aren't something new.

When QR codes were invented, people imagined the Mark might be a QR code. Bar codes before that were a very real fear for a lot of people. Now most people are used to the scanner at the supermarket reading the bar codes and QR codes off the bags and boxes and cans etc.

I have a very real concern that people who could benefit from an implant will be frightened away from such help because of bad theology and fears that are not based on actual Scripture. It happens.

Paul spoke of the fears people had of eating meat sacrificed to idols. We want to please God and avoid sin.

We can get all tied up in knots worrying about things the Bible is silent on, and stopping someone from possibly getting healed or helped by modern medical advances.

Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for being angry that He healed a woman bent over suffering for 18 long years. The were mad because Jesus healed on the Sabbath. They weren't expecting a Messiah who healed outside their rules or their understanding of God's laws.

They couldn't heal her and they were angry that someone else not only could heal but did it on the Sabbath.

Luke 13: 10-17 NIV
10 On a Sabbath Jesus was teaching in one of the synagogues, 11 and a woman was there who had been crippled by a spirit for eighteen years. She was bent over and could not straighten up at all. 12 When Jesus saw her, he called her forward and said to her, “Woman, you are set free from your infirmity.” 13 Then he put his hands on her, and immediately she straightened up and praised God.

14 Indignant because Jesus had healed on the Sabbath, the synagogue leader said to the people, “There are six days for work. So come and be healed on those days, not on the Sabbath.”

15 The Lord answered him, “You hypocrites! Doesn’t each of you on the Sabbath untie your ox or donkey from the stall and lead it out to give it water? 16 Then should not this woman, a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan has kept bound for eighteen long years, be set free on the Sabbath day from what bound her?”

17 When he said this, all his opponents were humiliated, but the people were delighted with all the wonderful things he was doing.
As usual, spot on, well reasoned post by you.
 

Footsteps

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Geez, we're all super quick to trust these people again! What is wrong with everyone? I wouldn't want anything with any sort of wireless, "connected' abilities implanted inside of me. It would have to be a closed system. It has nothing to do with being "the mark". I have zero trust in any of the big people at the top. They're going to have to earn that back.
Spot on. What tptb have earned is constant suspicion. When your Roomba, and Alexis, and increasing numbers of devices can be hacked, what will “pop up” next (your toaster). This would need to be a closed system as you have pointed out. But technology shows us that new technology will eventually outdo the preceding “impenetrable” invention. This mistrust is tragic when it enters the medical realm. Satan may have won a perverse victory here because many Christians do not understand that willful worship of the A/C is integral to damnation. Pardon me - I have to cut this short - Siri just told me to stick a knife into my plugged in toaster to fix the timer.
 

athenasius

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Geez, we're all super quick to trust these people again! What is wrong with everyone? I wouldn't want anything with any sort of wireless, "connected' abilities implanted inside of me. It would have to be a closed system. It has nothing to do with being "the mark". I have zero trust in any of the big people at the top. They're going to have to earn that back.
Well you won't have to if you don't want to because these things are expensive and the Canadian govt doesn't like to waste them on people who don't want them, plus our current medical laws allow people to say NO, so you are safe

but currently there are several implants that require connections to outside devices including

Insulin pumps https://www.medtronic.com/ca-en/dia...KwUmVh7iAM0nRgKprg0aAteCEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds and this is some info explaining how it connects to your smart phone, and talks with your dr's device. As a result of a recent Viral infection that has this particular side effect in survivors, the Christian 35 year old son of Christian friends of ours became a type 1 diabetic, and is now using an insulin pump that his specialist programmed then adjusted and last I heard they are still fine tuning it for his personal needs. He should live a normal lifespan now, but before diagnosis he was on borrowed time. He was pretty sick when he finally went to his dr and from there to the emergency dept in an ambulance.

Cardiac pacemakers which again connect to outside devices and are programmable to better meet the needs of the person that they are implanted into. Yay for pacemakers, because a lot of people would be pushing up daisies otherwise. https://www.uptodate.com/contents/pacemakers-beyond-the-basics

This next one is really wonderful
It is none other than an implanted defibrillator. DEFINITELY saves lives every year. https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-pr...ardioverter-defibrillators/about/pac-20384692

and each one of these "talks" to outside computers. They are responsible for a lot of lives that otherwise would be lost. A lot of suffering alleviated, a lot of grief in their family and loved ones.

Implants, even ones with computer chips that talk to outside computers are gifts from God in my opinion.

But each of us makes our own decisions, it's our God given right and thankfully most medical personnel are trained to listen to people refusing care and won't force lifesaving surgery or implants on anyone.

You and anyone else who is concerned about having implants forced onto you can rest easy on that.
 

glc11

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Geez, we're all super quick to trust these people again! What is wrong with everyone? I wouldn't want anything with any sort of wireless, "connected' abilities implanted inside of me. It would have to be a closed system. It has nothing to do with being "the mark". I have zero trust in any of the big people at the top. They're going to have to earn that back.
I have this view as well.

I don’t believe we are able to take anything that is the actual mark before we are raptured. Sure the concept of these inventions could be similar and a preconditioning, but it isn’t the actual mark if we accept this stuff now.
However, I NO LONGER trust our government or any tech elites with access to my body via some device I can’t remove.

This whole past two years is when they all really showed their true colors.

They always act like they are doing something for “a good”

They are all invested in their own agendas for power and money > period.
 

Matthew6:33

Withstand in the evil day. Eph 6:13
I fast forwarded to the end of the video to see it for myself....I saw a tenderness there that really surprised me and touched my heart. :pray
I read the transcript before but since you mentioned it, I watched the video, and you are 100% on that. He did have a tenderness and I even saw his eye get a little misty. Elon is a very smart man, you can hear it in the way he speaks. Someone with an intellect like that probably understands how the deeper we go into trying to figure things out, the more complicated they seem to become, leaving more questions than answers. Maybe this is the hand of God? Elon seemed receptive. They kept their eye on the goal of salvation (notice all of the confusion and spiritual noise that started when they asked Elon about salvation!). There must have been a great invisible battle going on. Praise God for the babylon bee!
 

athenasius

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Just as a followup, it's about 3 weeks later since I posted in here, and

my pastor's life was saved today, by an implant.

A wireless, connected device.

He got an implanted defibrillator this afternoon.

Yesterday we were all praying hard because it looked like another bad heart attack (he had one some months back).

Turns out the scar tissue on his heart from that first heart attack (he has implants for that too-- stents that keep his arteries open and functioning) was causing an electrical failure in his heart

and once again, it's an Implant that came as an answer to prayer for this humble Christian man, a pastor of a tiny church that we happen to attend via Zoom. It only has about 8 or 9 regular families attending, but God heard our prayers.

And this implant has computer connections to allow outside devices to read the data and respond by changing the way it works according to his needs.

Because of this device we still have a pastor serving this little insignificant church in central rural BC where nobody else much wants to go and pastor. No fame, no big church, just a few families who love the Lord and their pastor.

Because God answered prayers and used a wireless connected device.

I'm so thankful he and his wife have more time together, and he can continue to serve God down here till God calls him home permanently. I'm praying that means the rapture for him but either way, he's back among the living again and I'm thanking God.
 

Spartan Sprinter 1

Formerly known as Shaun
A watched a Billy Crone AI interview with Tom Hughes last night and what he was saying they want to introduce is frightening !!!!

- They want to implement technology similar to the Matrix in the military where they can download information into your mind so that you instantly master a task or skill ( In the Matrix Neo instantly has knowledge of martial arts after it was downloaded into him

- They also in the process of developing technology so they can selectively take away bad memories so soldiers won't suffer from PTSD and be the ultimate fearless soldier

- They also want to develop technology where you can pay for dream sort of like a streaming service, you subscribe to these people, tell them what sort of dreams you want to have and then they send it to some sort of chip that they will implant into your body

This is all sounds like those dodgy 1980/90's sci fi films
 

athenasius

Well-Known Member
A watched a Billy Crone AI interview with Tom Hughes last night and what he was saying they want to introduce is frightening !!!!

- They want to implement technology similar to the Matrix in the military where they can download information into your mind so that you instantly master a task or skill ( In the Matrix Neo instantly has knowledge of martial arts after it was downloaded into him

- They also in the process of developing technology so they can selectively take away bad memories so soldiers won't suffer from PTSD and be the ultimate fearless soldier

- They also want to develop technology where you can pay for dream sort of like a streaming service, you subscribe to these people, tell them what sort of dreams you want to have and then they send it to some sort of chip that they will implant into your body

This is all sounds like those dodgy 1980/90's sci fi films
That shouldn't be confused with necessary medical implants. I know the DARPA projects are evil, and they will end up with the "super soldiers" but what worries me is that people are confusing the two.
 

Spartan Sprinter 1

Formerly known as Shaun
That shouldn't be confused with necessary medical implants. I know the DARPA projects are evil, and they will end up with the "super soldiers" but what worries me is that people are confusing the two.

Yes i agree with your point about medical implants, i was just trying to add to the otherside of the coin at the depths of potential evil that these people want to introduce and that some of this technology is apparently available as we speak
 

athenasius

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Yes i agree with your point about medical implants, i was just trying to add to the otherside of the coin at the depths of potential evil that these people want to introduce and that some of this technology is apparently available as we speak
I agree with that too, but the problem I see is that Elon Musk is trying to help paraplegics and quadraplegics regain their lives and being hit with critics who confuse this with DARPA type research.

I think that God is restraining the worst of the DARPA stuff for now, but when we go up, and the Restrainer is removed, they won't even bother to try and help paraplegics get out of their wheelchairs, they'll just kill them and anyone else that isn't "fit" enough, just as Hitler tried to do. Heart patients, diabetics, they will ration the care till these unfortunates die off.

But until the Rapture, what worries me is that Christians will decide that all implants are evil because evil people might someday use that research for harm.

We cannot stop evil from being evil after the Rapture, and God doesn't stop them either.

This side of the Rapture, evil is restrained to a degree, and genuine medical research to benefit people is being talked of in Christian circles as the beginnings of evil.

It's kind of like the whole gun situation. Guns don't kill, but people using guns do. The guns are actually a good thing, to restrain evil in the hands of good people. But in the hands of evil people they are used to commit murder and crimes of all kinds.

Medical research is like a gun.

It can be used for much good in the hands of the good. Or in the hands of evil, it can do much harm.

By stopping people from gaining access to help, because we fear the evil that may come from such medical research we actually do harm without meaning to.

and by stopping people from gaining access to help, I mean by making an argument that if we get an implant, even one like the OP is talking about, that we are somehow complying with evil.

Good Christians are making those kind of statements about medical implants in this particular case -- spinal cord injury, for fear of the technology itself.
 

Dave_97

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I agree with that too, but the problem I see is that Elon Musk is trying to help paraplegics and quadraplegics regain their lives and being hit with critics who confuse this with DARPA type research.

I think that God is restraining the worst of the DARPA stuff for now, but when we go up, and the Restrainer is removed, they won't even bother to try and help paraplegics get out of their wheelchairs, they'll just kill them and anyone else that isn't "fit" enough, just as Hitler tried to do. Heart patients, diabetics, they will ration the care till these unfortunates die off.

But until the Rapture, what worries me is that Christians will decide that all implants are evil because evil people might someday use that research for harm.

We cannot stop evil from being evil after the Rapture, and God doesn't stop them either.

This side of the Rapture, evil is restrained to a degree, and genuine medical research to benefit people is being talked of in Christian circles as the beginnings of evil.

It's kind of like the whole gun situation. Guns don't kill, but people using guns do. The guns are actually a good thing, to restrain evil in the hands of good people. But in the hands of evil people they are used to commit murder and crimes of all kinds.

Medical research is like a gun.

It can be used for much good in the hands of the good. Or in the hands of evil, it can do much harm.

By stopping people from gaining access to help, because we fear the evil that may come from such medical research we actually do harm without meaning to.

and by stopping people from gaining access to help, I mean by making an argument that if we get an implant, even one like the OP is talking about, that we are somehow complying with evil.

Good Christians are making those kind of statements about medical implants in this particular case -- spinal cord injury, for fear of the technology itself.
I agree with this post. Technology, even the one we have today has vastly helped people and improved the way we live in ways I don’t think we even realize.

So people trying to use implants, might not necessarily be evil. Even the intention of making implants might genuinely be to help people, and it just might. And if it does I’m all for it.

The only problem is man by default always gravitates to evil due to the fallen nature. Example, the internet is an amazing tool. You can communicate with loved ones from thousands of miles away, you can watch any bible teacher you want online and gain vast amount of knowledge. Today you can evenly order food online, and order almost anything through Amazon. Truly amazing.

The flip side is that this same internet can be used to bully people anonymously, buy illegal stuff on the online black market, lure vulnerable people and kidnap them, exposing innocent children to things like porn. The list goes on, but you get my point.

I stand with your point. Technology isn’t bad, it is the user who make it bad. Since after the rapture the love of many will grow cold (due to the restrainer removed as you mentioned). It should also reason that any technological advancements during that time will mostly be used for evil.
 
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