Elon Musk Claims His Brain Chip Will Cure Depression, Addiction

Ben D

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Elon Musk Claims His Brain Chip Will Cure Depression, Addiction


The Independent reports that Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk claims that his new brain-computer chip startup company, Neuralink, will be able to cure mental issues such as depression and addiction. Musk founded Neuralink in 2016 after receiving $158 million in funding and claimed in a 2019 presentation that the company had developed a “sewing machine-link” device that could connect brains directly to computers. :

On August 28, Musk plans to reveal more information about Neuralink. One Twitter user named Pranay Pathole asked Musk what device capabilities could be expected, asking: “Can Neuralink be used to retrain the part of the brain which is responsible for causing addiction or depression? It’d be great if Neuralink can be used for something like addiction/ depression.”

Musk replied: “For sure. This is both great and terrifying. Everything we’ve ever sensed or thought has been electrical signals. The early universe was just a soup of quarks and leptons. How did a very small piece of the universe start to think of itself as sentient?”

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020...is-brain-chip-will-cure-depression-addiction/
 

DWB

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Addiction is a horrible thing. For the longest time I didn't understand about withdrawal symptoms, I just thought people were addicted to getting high and just couldn't function without some type of buzz. So it's not just re-training the brain to "not" want something, there are physical symptoms that have to be dealt with also.
 

DanLMP

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How did a very small piece of the universe start to think of itself as sentient?

Oooooo, that's so close.

How is it possible for someone so smart to not be able to put the pieces together especially when they realize that human intelligence is impossible to explain using only the laws of physics?

And even with all of my memory issues, I wouldn't want a man made chip in my brain to control my impulses. You might as well call us the Borg now.
 

Eric Nicholas

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Oooooo, that's so close.

How is it possible for someone so smart to not be able to put the pieces together especially when they realize that human intelligence is impossible to explain using only the laws of physics?

And even with all of my memory issues, I wouldn't want a man made chip in my brain to control my impulses. You might as well call us the Borg now.

I've always found it interesting (I suppose that's the word) how these studied men and women can't feel the weight of their self-defeating worldview crushing them. " We are all genetically determined to the point that we have no free will. But let me tell you how right that I am! " Whew...
 

ByGod'sGrace

under His wings - Psalm 91:4
What if people get brain implants and an enemy uses an EMP pulse? Wouldn't that fry your brain?
It is truly fascinating how predictive programming has prepared people for easy fixes (The Matrix film comes to mind - instant knowledge, just by linking up to a system).
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
What if people get brain implants and an enemy uses an EMP pulse? Wouldn't that fry your brain?
It is truly fascinating how predictive programming has prepared people for easy fixes (The Matrix film comes to mind - instant knowledge, just by linking up to a system).

More benign sources of electronic interference . . . alarm systems, radar, avionics, cell phones, cell towers, TV/radio transmitters, two-way radios, medical equipment, etc. . . . and then there are those apps that aren't always so benign.
 

Jonathan

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Addiction is a horrible thing. For the longest time I didn't understand about withdrawal symptoms, I just thought people were addicted to getting high and just couldn't function without some type of buzz. So it's not just re-training the brain to "not" want something, there are physical symptoms that have to be dealt with also.
Exactly well said. It isn't just psychological. Removing alcohol or benzos from an addict cold turkey style can be very harmful for reasons that are strictly physiological. Your neurons and cells have adapted to a new chemistry at the point, and depleting it of what they are used to can be not only dangerous but fatal.

And when I am talking about neurons and cells, that goes for all the ones in your entire body. No brain chip can change that. It might, theoretically, remove the desire for substance abuse, but it won't change your body's chemistry overnight.

I hope I don't get flak for saying this, but that is one reason that I wasn't too offended by states keeping the ABC stores open during this pandemic.

Still, I would never submit to having a brain implant unless it was VERY precise and didn't engage my cognitive centers or interact with my DNA in ANY way. For example, if I went deaf like Rush Limbaugh, I'd probably agree to a Cochlear implant.
 
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Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
The Independent reports that Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk claims that his new brain-computer chip startup company, Neuralink, will be able to cure mental issues such as depression and addiction. Musk founded Neuralink in 2016 after receiving $158 million in funding and claimed in a 2019 presentation that the company had developed a “sewing machine-link” device that could connect brains directly to computers. :

On August 28, Musk plans to reveal more information about Neuralink. One Twitter user named Pranay Pathole asked Musk what device capabilities could be expected, asking: “Can Neuralink be used to retrain the part of the brain which is responsible for causing addiction or depression? It’d be great if Neuralink can be used for something like addiction/ depression.”


"Increased focus on religion or religious activities" is a symptom of bi-polar disorder (depression/mania), schizophrenia, schizophreniform disorder, schizoaffective disorder"

"Delusions are defined as "false beliefs firmly held," and types include paranoid or persecutory delusions, delusions of reference, delusions of grandeur, delusional jealousy and others."

https://www.verywellmind.com/religious-factors-in-bipolar-disorder-380485

Religious belief can be considered delusional
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4173112/


So how long before the mental health courts order implantation of said chip into non-compliant "mentally ill" ("delusional") people (Christians)?

I think it would be really, really tough to fight an implanted chip to learn/retain the truth (Gospel), especially if the chip was specifically programmed to prevent this/retrain "delusional" thought :eek :mad


10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12, KJV

Dear God, please hurry up!!! :pray :pray :amen :amen
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
Still, I would never submit to having a brain implant unless it was VERY precise and didn't engage my cognitive centers or interact with my DNA in ANY way. For example, if I went deaf like Rush Limbaugh, I'd probably agree to a Cochlear implant.

My Will to Live specifically disallows chips/implants, counseling, treatment, etc. that would/could alter, etc. my religious beliefs.

Cochlear implant, pacemaker, artificial eye, prosthetic limb, transplant, etc. would be OK because they wouldn't/couldn't alter my eligious beliefs. . . :smile
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
Exactly well said. It isn't just psychological. Removing alcohol or benzos from an addict cold turkey style can be very harmful for reasons that are strictly physiological. Your neurons and cells have adapted to a new chemistry at the point, and depleting it of what they are used to can be not only dangerous but fatal.

And when I am talking about neurons and cells, that goes for all the ones in your entire body. No brain chip can change that. It might, theoretically, remove the desire for substance abuse, but it won't change your body's chemistry overnight.

I hope I don't get flak for saying this, but that is one reason that I wasn't too offended by states keeping the ABC stores open during this pandemic.

Still, I would never submit to having a brain implant unless it was VERY precise and didn't engage my cognitive centers or interact with my DNA in ANY way. For example, if I went deaf like Rush Limbaugh, I'd probably agree to a Cochlear implant.

Wine, brandy, beer, rum, etc. are used in cooking/baking, too :smile Hard to parboil brats in beer if one doesn't have any beer :rolleyes
Hard to make rum-pineapple cake or rum balls without rum. Hard to make traditional tiramisu without kahlua. Etc., etc., etc.
 

Walk Softly

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"Increased focus on religion or religious activities" is a symptom of bi-polar disorder (depression/mania), schizophrenia, schizophreniform disorder, schizoaffective disorder"

I am absolutely not playing devil's advocate here, but a well known symptom of insanity is weird rantings about Jesus and God. That sort of thing has been widely observed and does not make an insane person a Christian nor does it indicate salvation. More likely it suggests possible demon possession.

That being said, I would worry about Musk's chip being used to "deprogram" Christians and other abuses... The possibilities are horrific...
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
I am absolutely not playing devil's advocate here, but a well known symptom of insanity is weird rantings about Jesus and God. That sort of thing has been widely observed and does not make an insane person a Christian nor does it indicate salvation. More likely it suggests possible demon possession.

That being said, I would worry about Musk's chip being used to "deprogram" Christians and other abuses... The possibilities are horrific...

The deprogramming was part of what I was trying to say.

Even now, without the chip, there are some secular and very liberal Christian licensed mental health providers that will label a conservative Christian delusional, etc. for clinging to traditional/creationist beliefs, or at the vey least, ridicule them. The way the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) is written, definitions and diagnostic criteria can be "used" to diagnose mental illness/disorder/etc. on the basis of Christian faith :mad Especially if one refuses to deny his/her faith.

I agree about the wild rantings of someone with a god complex (potentially) indicating demon possession . . .
 
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