‘Duck Dynasty’ Star Phil Robertson Reveals the Moment He Shared the Gospel With President Trump

[Jan51]

I haven't heard him specifically teach that doctrine, but if you read his book and those of his family members, it is clear that they believe it is important to be baptised immediately following salvation.

 

[cheeky200386]

I've never heard him say this. I have heard him say that Jesus is the only way to salvation many times. Its one thing to say that you should be baptised. Its another thing to say you need to be baptised to be saved.

Forgive me if I seem irritable, I just tire of the countless 'truth ministries' (I am not saying you are part of these either) that seem to nit-pick at anyone actually doing something in the Lord.

I know what you mean. In this case, his denomination believes in a false Gospel and I've heard he engages in wretched behavior on his show (I can't speak to this part since I don't watch the show.) I'm curious if he has denounced his denomination.

 

[Matthew6:33]

Phil is a long-time member of a Church of Christ fellowship. One of that denominations distinctives is baptismal regeneration-- the idea that you are actually born again in baptism not by calling upon Christ. I had a COC pastor tell me that is someone came to church, heard a sermon, immediately was convicted and gave their heart to Christ but had a heart attack and died on their way from their pew to the baptismal tank, they would go to Hell. I don't know whether Phil himself believes in this doctrine, but his denominator does.

Is the Church of Christ the same denomination as the Disciples of Christ? They seem very similar. I know the Disciples of Christ can be very liberal and the problem with that denomination is the churches are also very autonomous so they operate differently depending on the local leadership. This can make it very confusing for believers looking for sound biblical doctrine.

I was looking at a local DOC church and their belief statement pointed to the website for their national DOC organization. When I read the denomination's beliefs, it was very concerning, shocking actually -- not standing against homosexuality and abortion. I created a thread on this a while back in the Apostasy section.

I don't think Phil could stand with that, if he does, then I have been decieved about what type of christian he is and I can't support him until he clarifies and/or repents if need be.

The bible does tell us not to put our trust in man. I defended R. Zacharias and look at what happened with him. We are truly in the last days.

 

[mattfivefour]

Matthew, the DOC and the COC are different fellowships. That share historic roots, springing from the same root, but if my understanding is correct (and I'm pretty sure it is) the Churches of Christ and the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) became separate in the early 1900's (although the final complete split didn't occur until the 1960's.) It's difficult to talk about the differences between the two groups as each congregating in each"denomination" are independent and different, but you'll find very few COC churches are anything but very conservative in doctrine. And I'm pretty sure you'll find Phil's church is as conservative as most Baptist churches. I hope this sets your mind at ease. Phil is the real deal.

 

[Cindy S.]

Phil is a long-time member of a Church of Christ fellowship. One of that denominations distinctives is baptismal regeneration-- the idea that you are actually born again in baptism not by calling upon Christ. I had a COC pastor tell me that is someone came to church, heard a sermon, immediately was convicted and gave their heart to Christ but had a heart attack and died on their way from their pew to the baptismal tank, they would go to Hell. I don't know whether Phil himself believes in this doctrine, but his denominator does.

That brings back memories from 20 years ago. I was SO upset my Bible Church couldn't schedule my baptism before Y2K and they would let me go to hell.
They told me that baptism doesn't save you.

 

[mattfivefour]

That brings back memories from 20 years ago. I was SO upset my Bible Church couldn't schedule my baptism before Y2K and they would let me go to hell.
They told me that baptism doesn't save you.

Because it doesn't. Faith alone in Christ and His finished work on Calvary alone saves us.

 

[DanLMP]

Because it doesn't. Faith alone in Christ and His finished work on Calvary alone saves us.

To add:

The "Baptism" you receive is the baptism of the Holy Spirit the microsecond you make that affirmation as He comes into you. Water not required.