Donald Trump raises the legal smoking age from 18 to 21 – but what about Homosexuality?

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Donald Trump raises the legal smoking age from 18 to 21 – but what about Homosexuality?
By Julio Severo

Donald Trump signed a sweeping bill on December 20, 2019 that includes raising the legal smoking age from 18 to 21 for both cigarettes and vapes.

The legislation was supported by Republicans and Democrats, socialists and capitalists.

A crackdown on youth smoking, by changing the minimum age for cigarette and other tobacco purchases from 18 to 21, has become necessary because cigarette smoking produces 480,000 deaths per year, including over 41,000 deaths resulting from secondhand smoke exposure. This is about one in five deaths annually, or 1,300 deaths every day.

Banning access to cigarettes to 21-year-old people is expected to produce major downstream health benefits, with the U.S. government estimating nearly 250,000 fewer deaths due to tobacco over several decades.

That not smoking is much better than smoking is an experience that Trump knows by himself. A White House physician’s report showed that Trump is much healthier than he looks because he doesn’t drink or smoke.

He has abstained from both for a lifetime.

There are certain things that it is better to abstain from. And if these things cause a big social harm, it is correct enact laws to protect children and teens, and Trump just did it regarding smoking.

Yet, smoking is not the only evil threatening young people.

Homosexuality was traditionally criminalized in the United States until the 1990s, when the U.S. Supreme Court, instigated by a powerful homosexual lobby, struck down anti-sodomy laws.

The liberalization of homosexuality may have been excellent for homosexualist groups, but it was not healthy to young people. Such liberalization has become a serious problem not only because homosexuality has increasingly received state protection and promotion, but also because, just as in the case of smoking, young people are the most vulnerable victims.

The Pew Research Center, in a report titled “U.S. has world’s highest rate of children living in single-parent households,” said,

For decades, the share of U.S. children living with a single parent has been rising, accompanied by a decline in marriage rates and a rise in births outside of marriage. A new Pew Research Center study of 130 countries and territories shows that the U.S. has the world’s highest rate of children living in single-parent households.

Almost a quarter of U.S. children under the age of 18 live with one parent and no other adults (23%), more than three times the share of children around the world who do so (7%). The study, which analyzed how people’s living arrangements differ by religion, also found that U.S. children from Christian and religiously unaffiliated families are about equally likely to live in this type of arrangement.


In comparison, 3% of children in China… live in single-parent households.

That is, even communist China protects families better than the U.S. does, even though China has an infamous compulsory family planning policy of limiting the number of babies by couples.

Single-parenting makes children and teens vulnerable to identity confusion, including sexual confusion. Because of their state of confusion, they are especially vulnerable to the predatory homosexual propaganda and indoctrination. Without a necessary intervention from the government, with single-parenting increasing in the U.S., inevitably homosexuality will increase among young people too.

The next generations of Americans, victims of the sexual irresponsibility of parents, will be easy preys of predatory homosexuality because of single parenting.

Children from single-parent homes have already enough problems. To expose them to additional pressures, especially the predatory homosexual propaganda and indoctrination, should be a crime.

If smoking is harmful to young people, why think that homosexuality is not?

If the U.S. government can ban smoking to protect young people, why not ban predatory homosexual propaganda and indoctrination to protect children and teens?

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Tall Timbers

Imperfect but forgiven
I don't smoke, don't use any kind of tobacco products or wacky weed. I don't think this change in the law regarding tobacco use is a good thing and I don't think it'll have much effect on the targetted young people. The new illegality of it might even see an increase in the numbers of people 18-21 who will use those now banned products, products banned to them, at least.

I can't quite see the connection between the government action on tobacco products and protection from sexual deviants. While I don't think the change in the legal age for tobacco products was a good idea, I would like to see some protections for all of us from sexual deviants/predators.
 

JSTyler

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I wonder if the distinction is as simple as the Govmint's historical involvement in farming, specifically tobacco farming via regulations and tax entanglements.

Now, it's off to trek in the quicksand...

Now about sexual organs, not so much. I don't want ANY human person to tell me what to do with my ummmm... equipment besides my spouse. I have a very clear and concise set of guidelines from the Creator of said equipment. Rulers and authorities can go pound sand on that one. I'm certainly open for discourse, including admonishment on this one.
 

DrAlvarez

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The funny thing is that most bars prohibit smoking. On the one hand, this is correct, and for example, it’s even very convenient for me because I recently quit smoking and now no one smokes cigarettes and does not provoke me in my favorite bar, but on the other hand, we must take into account that people come to the bar to relax and have fun. So this is a pretty controversial decision. I do not even know what to answer. I recently decided to smoke a vape in a bar (I just recently decided to Buy Vape Liquid UK), but the guards said it was forbidden and I was outraged, but I understood that the rules should not be violated.
 
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Lovin Jesus

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I don't smoke, don't use any kind of tobacco products or wacky weed. I don't think this change in the law regarding tobacco use is a good thing and I don't think it'll have much effect on the targetted young people. The new illegality of it might even see an increase in the numbers of people 18-21 who will use those now banned products, products banned to them, at least.

I can't quite see the connection between the government action on tobacco products and protection from sexual deviants. While I don't think the change in the legal age for tobacco products was a good idea, I would like to see some protections for all of us from sexual deviants/predators.
I think it won’t make a difference. Tobacco is addicting and as a former smoker I did some Weird things to get a cigarette. Young people will find a way to get them. They even find ways to get alcohol. One thing I find crazy is an 18 year old will be restricted from buying cigarettes but will be eligible to be in the military and fight in a war.
 

JoyJoyJoy

I Shall Not Be Moved
I think it won’t make a difference. Tobacco is addicting and as a former smoker I did some Weird things to get a cigarette. Young people will find a way to get them. They even find ways to get alcohol. One thing I find crazy is an 18 year old will be restricted from buying cigarettes but will be eligible to be in the military and fight in a war.
I agree.

To me, the article was comparing apples and oranges....no connect.
 

GotGrace

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I don't smoke, don't use any kind of tobacco products or wacky weed. I don't think this change in the law regarding tobacco use is a good thing and I don't think it'll have much effect on the targetted young people. The new illegality of it might even see an increase in the numbers of people 18-21 who will use those now banned products, products banned to them, at least.

I can't quite see the connection between the government action on tobacco products and protection from sexual deviants. While I don't think the change in the legal age for tobacco products was a good idea, I would like to see some protections for all of us from sexual deviants/predators.
I agree with you.

The normalization of homosexuality by the TV programs, politicians enacting laws, and the churches bringing them into places of leadership gives young people the idea It’s okay.
 

DWB

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I don't drink or smoke anymore, but going back to my youth when the military draft was a possibility before if was thankfully discontinued, I felt if 18 was old enough to fight and die for my country at least I should be able to drink and smoke.
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
It all comes down to the age at which adult activities are permitted. Minimum ages are imposed to protect childen from self-harm or exploitation, but "harm" and "exploitation" are defined in accordance with social zeitgeist, with or without scientific foundation. The effectiveness of ages of consent reflect the integrity of the children and adults around them. Most unfortunate is that the morals of this world allow/require/encourage ages of consent for sin in the first place :mad

Teen consent to murder a baby without parental permission, notification, etc. varies by state https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/age-of-consent-by-state.html The Guttmacher Institute, which I won't link to, has state-by-state information about differing required parental involvement requirements for STI treatment, prenatal care, contraception, etc. in a table.

Age of consent for heterosexual sex is different in the various states. "It is probable that a state court, assuming that it did not try to enforce an unconstitutional law, would simply default to the state’s age of consent for heterosexual intercourse, but this is not a sure thing." https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/age-of-consent-by-state.html Age of consent in some places was also for marriage, not just sex.

Not going to address drinking ages because that'll open a whole different discussion and derail the thread.
 

Ghoti Ichthus

Pray so they do not serve alone. Ephesians 6:10-20
I don't drink or smoke anymore, but going back to my youth when the military draft was a possibility before if was thankfully discontinued, I felt if 18 was old enough to fight and die for my country at least I should be able to drink and smoke.
And vote.
I registered for both on my 18th.

And had a beer to celebrate :biggrin (drinking age was 18 back then)
 
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